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Are Unidentified Skeletons in Turkish Prison Greek Cypriots?

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Re: Are Unidentified Skeletons in Turkish Prison Greek Cypri

Postby kimon07 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:08 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:Who ever the remains may be of, whether of Turkish political prisoners, Kurds are some of the missing Cypriots, in my view
1) Turkey as a state as well as individual soldiers committed war crimes in the treatment of Cypriots during the invasion
2) Turkey has committed crimes against humanity in its treatement of Cyprus and the Kurds.

Let us hope the facts come out and be acknowledged by Turkey, but if the Armenian genocide is anything to go by they will probably try to brazen it out.


Nothing will come out. Nothing will be revealed. Those who were kept imprisoned till the Greek secret service found them but did not manage to release them, are dead already. So are those who passed the info to the Greek SC. God bless their souls.

P.S. I will n ot condemn Turkey for what individual soldiers did on their own accord. Crimes commited under official orders count. And they are a lot.
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Re: Are Unidentified Skeletons in Turkish Prison Greek Cypri

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:09 am

kimon07 wrote:P.S. I will not condemn Turkey for what individual soldiers did on their own accord. Crimes committed under official orders count. And they are a lot.


I agree with the principle that one should not condemn a government for the excesses of individual soldiers acting without orders but I think that a government has a duty to to ensure its soldiers are given proper orders intended to prohibit such excess and they should seek to punish those who break such orders, but if they do not they become responsible. It does however also appear to me that many of the disappearances (and possibly other atrocities )were at least tolerated and in some cases probably sanctioned at a sufficiently high level to make them state policy, for which the state is responsible.
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Re: Are Unidentified Skeletons in Turkish Prison Greek Cypri

Postby kimon07 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:28 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
kimon07 wrote:P.S. I will not condemn Turkey for what individual soldiers did on their own accord. Crimes committed under official orders count. And they are a lot.


It does however also appear to me that many of the disappearances (and possibly other atrocities )were at least tolerated and in some cases probably sanctioned at a sufficiently high level to make them state policy, for which the state is responsible.


Absolutely. Not just many, but most, I would say, having heard certain stories from people who witnessed and experienced. And not just sanctioned but even ordered and coordinated. That is why Turkey is held guilty as a state.
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