bill cobbett wrote:kimon07 wrote:bill cobbett wrote:... and if you claimed that to the good people of Korea, they'd think you stark, raving bonkers.
The point is that it was included in the Ancient Olympics from their beginning as you will see if you go through the sites and it is recognized Internationally.
Its a combination of boxing/kick-boxing/judo/free-wrestling
You really have lost the plot if you think taekwondo has anything to do with it.
So, it includes "judo" ...!!! If you're going to use that word, the people of Japan will join those in Korea in their disbelief.
... and "wrestling" ... what on earth has taekwondo got to do with wrestling...???!!!
Then there's the well over 2,000 year old tradition of taekwondo in Korea, where was the physical connection 2,000+ years ago...???
Wrong. It was developed duing the Korean war using as a base the original Korean martial art which is Tang Su do. Look it up! The tae kvon do is the tang -su - do adjusted so as to comply with modern army needs (the original kicks are bare footed, for instance, the solier has boots on, so the technic had to be ajusted). The Koren regime has done it best to eliminate the tang -su -do and the son of the founder of the asociation in Korea, after a short pass from Athens Greece in 1973-4 where he run a school, was chased out by the Korean embassy and ended up in New Ypork were he started a school.
Face it reh... it's a completely different sport with its own very ancient roots. There is no connection.
Bill, stop pretending you did not understand what I said. Your question was whether the ancient Greeks had tae-kvon-do. I answered NO BUT they had PANKRATION, i.e., their own style of unarmed martial art
which resembles the martial arts of the East and that PANKRATION was included in the ancient Olympics from the beginning and that whether you know it or no, which is irrelevant, it is presently an internationally recognized and practiced martial art.
Didn't say it was Tae-kvon-do or ju-do but that it has elements resembling both (Remember they had boxing and Greek wrestling as two completely different sports additionally to this one which included punches, kicks, arms and legs twists, head locks etc. Just look at the links in good faith).
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And don't forget another thing: The "games" of the ancient Olympics had to do mainly with "martial" activities such as the javelin, the sphere, long jumps, high jumps, archery, the hoplite run ("oplites dromos"), charriot race and generally
they were mostly an exhibition of the scills of a warior. What's next in the dodgy claims list ??? ... Shooting....
YES! Archery, javelin, disc, sphere.
.....Try it on with Synchronised Swimming perhaps...???
No such stupidities. But they had music and poetry competitions in the Olympics.
Basketball...???
Don't think so. But they did have footbball. Not in the Olympics I think.
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