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[supporttheunderdog]

the writer is indulging in Hyperbolea and exageration as you are so prone to do as the while the information commissoner has regulatory powers and some limited rights to compel enforcement the commission is not a court of law and the commissioner is not a judge: further the government have a legal right enshrined in law to veto his findings.

I note however that while quick to condemn the UK government yfor mis treatement you are slow to condemn the Cyprus government about its own similar acts and I invite you again to join me in codemnling both governments, or is it acceptble for the Cyprus government to violate human rights?

I would incidentally point out that the article by stopdeportations contained not one reference to any immigrant being denied due process - indeed they had two weeks notice which is hardly fast tracking and some deportations were plainly stopped by the courts,

[Milo]

Blimey that's rich even coming from you who spends all her waking hours condemning everything and everyone British whilst daring to live there! Yet Cyprus doesn't yet ( 2013 ) have trained paramedics! The deaths occurring without first responders must be thousands over the years, yet still they don't have them!

Lack of response from the govt is appalling and finally theyve been shamed into it this year, training normally takes a full three years! Hopefully those that have now had a years training will continue, the lives these people can save is enormous, having watched a driver and a nurse try and bundle a man who had fallen off a roof onto a stretcher, it was only the quick thinking of ordinary people there who had first aid training who stopped them before they had done more damage, his back was broken. I don't blame those people they do their best in the circumstances, it of course starts with the people in charge who care little what happens to their citizens IMO. Both govts don't give a toss until someone points things out to them, Cyprus in that respect is certainly no different.

How terrible to deny its citizens the chance of life by immediate first aid given professionally instead life ebbs away because first responders aren't available, what has the Cyprus govt done with all it's money ? Shame on them too....

[GreekIslandGirl]

Oh my, oh my - first aid and practical knowledge is so poor in the UK - thanks for pointing that out!

New figures have been released which suggest that as many as 140,000 deaths could be prevented each year simply by people knowing first aid.
The shocking statistic means that the lack of basic life-saving skills among the general population could be responsible for as many deaths each year as cancer. The message that hundreds of thousands of lives could be saved each year if more people knew first aid forms the basis of a hard-hitting new campaign to encourage people to learn basic life-saving skills. The campaign, spearheaded by a national charity, includes a television advert that shows a man being diagnosed and treated for cancer before recovering. However, he then goes on to choke to death on a piece of meat at a barbecue, because no one around him knows the correct action to take in order to save his life.
Being diagnosed with cancer is one of the most feared situations among people in Britain, with 43% of adults recently surveyed saying they had made changes to their diet to try to reduce their risk of getting the illness.

firstaidresponsetraining.com


Thank goodness for the Mediterranean diet and better practical skills in Cyprus - they certainly deserve a better life than some others.

http://www.orderofstjohn.org/st-john-wo ... ope/cyprus

[supporttheunderdog]

ah the Order of St Johns, basically in its modern form in origin a British Organstion .....however are the practical skills any better in Cyprus?

[Milo]

The med diet is good, sadly Cypriot men especially don't stick to it, hence the high incidence of heart attacks amongst them recently reported as the highest in Europe. Or maybe it's the red meat and the cigs, anyway what about the Paramedics why has it taken the Cypriot govt past and present till 2013 to train about 40 for one year only, full acute training is three years, so some need more training to administer certain drugs and perform different life saving techniques. Already some of those who have been trained for a year cannot get jobs and are going over to the private sector. That's bad news, they should be snapped up for the govt hospitals and be available for island wide emergency call outs.

You've at last got better equipped ambulances but no one on them to use the equipment.

Get a grip women cone back to Cyprus and sort it out, leave the UK to those of us who know better how to deal with it. You know it makes sense you must be at retirement age by now, you can buy my house there I'll sell it you cheap

[GreekIslandGirl]

Best thing to do with the concrete villas built for poor-Brits like you, is to fumigate them and use them for storing illegal immigrants prior to deportation (but if we follow the UK's example, they shouldn't be around for too long. )

But as usual, you don't let the facts get in the way of your muck spreading. UK health better than Cyprus, is it?

Not according to the EU health watch:

Levels of deaths that could be avoided in the presence of timely and effective health
care (“avoidable mortality”) have been improving in all countries. However, wide
variations in avoidable mortality remain across countries, suggesting that there is
room for improvement, especially in Romania, Latvia and Hungary, but also in the
United Kingdom, Portugal and Ireland.

ec.europa.eu

[Milo]

Does Cyprus have qualified 'blue light' drivers? Qualified to drive at speed in an emergency aviod skids etc? In fact are they even supposed to be driving under a blue light, ask the next ambulance driver, none of them are.

Can nurses on board an ambulance in Cyprus administer life saving drugs? No they can't.

The fact is tourists from other countries used to paramedics attending the sick and car accident victims don't realise that Cyprus doesn't have these in place although they promised way back in the early nineties to implement it. This year they started, it needs a two year diploma or a three year degree course, yet the authorities claim to have trained them in a year.

Whatever get them on the ambulances and then get the ambulances driven by trained blue light drivers it's what the public deserve.

Concrete boxes designed by Cypriot architects, built by cheap labour employed by Cypriot developers, all overseen by Cypriot lawyers, yeh I can see that's the fault of the Brits and possibly illegal immigrants, naughty people that they are

[GreekIslandGirl]

Milo, I'm sorry you feel so bitter about your experience in Cyprus that you have to keep scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to moan about, each and every time. Frankly, I'm bored moaning about the UK because the lists of problems just keeps growing and growing. At least you chose to go to Cyprus and presumably made some informed decision over time.

War-torn Cyprus has some way to go towards having the perfect conditions to assist alcohol-soaked tourists when they have accidents. These needs have risen very quickly and priorities were/are different to other sun-soaked islands. Life saving drugs? It should be about getting patients to hospitals fast enough although that's not a priority in the UK anymore - it's become more about leave them at home as much as possible. Different practices; and I know the situation in the UK is far from ideal especially with increasing lists of things ambulance staff are NOT allowed to do. At least Cyprus is improving (again) and when the constant threat of Turkey encroaching even more has gone, and with it the return of a whole Cyprus, then priorities would change again. I hope Cyprus never becomes a nanny-state because when those luxuries are removed it takes a while for people to find their inner stoicism and resolve which is all that has kept Cypriots surviving against the nastiest of intrusions.

I'm sorry too that you didn't like your house - but I believe they are all done according to budget. The legacy of so many Brits coming over with small budgets, hoping to capitalise on housing, has blighted a lot of Cyprus. They were obviously catered for so you cannot absolve yourself from all responsibility. The richer nationals coming over now will leave their mark too. But, on a positive note, have you thought of lowering the price of your house to sell it as, when you bought it, you probably got more euros for your sterling and now you'll get more sterling for your euros?

[Jerry]

The planning laws, policy and their enforcement in any country determine what is/should be built, not the demand. Nepotism and greed are have a lot to answer for.

[cyprusgrump]

The planning laws, policy and their enforcement in any country determine what is/should be built, not the demand. Nepotism and greed are have a lot to answer for.

Oh Jerry....

You know Cyprus is 100% perfect.... any minor deficiencies are entirely due to the Brits and/or Turks.....

And if nasty people like you and STUD didn't keep raising them here even those (minor) issues would simply disappear....