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[Garavnoss]

We will actually change their status to Islamic Martyr.

It is hardly worthy to suggest that the IS fighters will become "Islamic Martyrs" on account of Western activities against them.

"Martyrdom" is NOT an ingrained belief among Westerners and therefore, whether or not the Western forces manage to commit further slaughter upon the IS, the mere fact that the IS are prepared to die for their cause [and willingly do so] is a guarantee that they WILL be "Martyred" and is possibly the main reason for why they are proving to be such a frightful opponent to the West.

Death holds no terrors for them, they actually embrace it.

Unlike some illustrations of Western attitudes [for example young soldiers minus legs/arms, whatever] appearing before the television cameras under the guidance of those that have exploited them and have schooled them prior to their appearance, might well declare that He/She is "Proud" to have served His/Her country [regardless of the campaign] and furthermore, would do the same again.

Ask them if they are still "Proud" when the TRUTH of their actions are revealed or, after years of suffering the hardships experienced by so many "Forgotten Heroes" of past conflicts, would take to the field again.....I fancy you might be surprised at the response.

Your comment regarding "Martyrdom" is a very poor one I fear.

[Paphitis]

We will actually change their status to Islamic Martyr.

It is hardly worthy to suggest that the IS fighters will become "Islamic Martyrs" on account of Western activities against them.

"Martyrdom" is NOT an ingrained belief among Westerners and therefore, whether or not the Western forces manage to commit further slaughter upon the IS, the mere fact that the IS are prepared to die for their cause [and willingly do so] is a guarantee that they WILL be "Martyred" and is possibly the main reason for why they are proving to be such a frightful opponent to the West.

Death holds no terrors for them, they actually embrace it.

Unlike some illustrations of Western attitudes [for example young soldiers minus legs/arms, whatever] appearing before the television cameras under the guidance of those that have exploited them and have schooled them prior to their appearance, might well declare that He/She is "Proud" to have served His/Her country [regardless of the campaign] and furthermore, would do the same again.

Ask them if they are still "Proud" when the TRUTH of their actions are revealed or, after years of suffering the hardships experienced by so many "Forgotten Heroes" of past conflicts, would take to the field again.....I fancy you might be surprised at the response.

Your comment regarding "Martyrdom" is a very poor one I fear.

It is what their belief is that matters and since we are culturally aware and very respectful, we just wish to give Allah a helping hand by sending his servants to paradise.

We are very humble, and considerate as we are fulfilling their wishes.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis; surely you don't believe the Sultan has the slightest chance of victory? Erdogan and his army of hired Saudi mercenaries ......... against the might of Russia ..... that's the best laugh I've had for ages!!!!!

If he really is that stupid ...... he will live to regret it ..... or maybe he won't live that long?

[Paphitis]

Paphitis; surely you don't believe the Sultan has the slightest chance of victory? Erdogan and his army of hired Saudi mercenaries ......... against the might of Russia ..... that's the best laugh I've had for ages!!!!!

If he really is that stupid ...... he will live to regret it ..... or maybe he won't live that long?

Yes I do actually.

In fact, I believe that if Turkey, Saudi Arabia and their allies attack the regime, Pootin will be looking for a face saving exit strategy. They are not going to risk war with NATO and the USA and its allies, Japan, Australia and Canada.

We would be very close to WW3. But I don't think it will get that far because it will be Pootin asking to negotiate, and you can say good bye to Assad!

Get ready RH! Your in for a real shock. You never truly believed we will let Pootin get his way did you? You have a lot to learn. There is a lot more at stake here.

[Paphitis]

Pootin has had enough warning now. He hasn't listened to reason.

We have no choice now but to invade in order to shore up the rebels. There is too much riding on it.

Don't say I didn't warn you RH. Now this is going to take a nastier turn and our troops will be in Syria very soon.

Pootin knows it too. Good luck with bombing NATO and Saudi Troops. That would be all out war as far as we are concerned and we are not afraid in starting another shock and awe blitz all over Syria.

Let's see how brave Pootin is now RH!

My guess he will be squeeling for the resumption of talks and Assad's head will be on the table.

You pushed us and we have been tolerant, always preferring dialogue. Now Pootin has gone too far and left us no other choice.

I hope Assad enjoys the company of Saudi, Turkish, Jordanian, Emirate, and Qatari troops. He was asking for it and now he shall receiveth!

And btw, there are American and Australian troops which can be deployed at any moment. Thousands of them.

[Robin Hood]

The US/NATO will not go to the aid of Erdogan! Any western government that did that would be finished politically and that includes the USA. The people, all people (with a few exceptions obviously. ) are far wiser now about what is going on in this conflict. Erdogan is universally disliked and bad news. If he is stupid enough to invade Syria he will be committing an act of war against a sovereign state. As such, he and his allies are aggressors and Assad has the right according to International Law/The UN Charter, to self defense in response to an attack. But, NATO is only bound to go to a member’s aid if THEY are attacked.

Putin is not stupid ….. he will draw them in, far enough away from the border to avoid any chance Assad/Russian forces accidentally crossing the border between Syria and Turkey and, just like the Pro-Russian rebels did in Donbas and Luhansk, they will then close the door behind him and blow his army to pieces.

Here are a couple of more sensible assessments of the situation than you have expounded.

The Syrian Endgame, “How a War is Lost is Dangerous”. US-NATO, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, “Losers on The Rampage” - By Prof. Tim Anderson

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syrian-endgame-how-a-war-is-lost-is-dangerous-us-nato-saudi-arabia-turkey-losers-on-the-rampage/5507682

Turkey’s Second Army Prepares to Invade Syria

http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkeys-second-army-prepares-to-invade-syria/5507520



This will be the last thing Erdogan will hear ………

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaw5Zm6EskA

[Paphitis]

The US/NATO will not go to the aid of Erdogan! Any western government that did that would be finished politically and that includes the USA. The people, all people (with a few exceptions obviously. ) are far wiser now about what is going on in this conflict. Erdogan is universally disliked and bad news. If he is stupid enough to invade Syria he will be committing an act of war against a sovereign state. As such, he and his allies are aggressors and Assad has the right according to International Law/The UN Charter, to self defense in response to an attack. But, NATO is only bound to go to a member’s aid if THEY are attacked.

Putin is not stupid ….. he will draw them in, far enough away from the border to avoid any chance Assad/Russian forces accidentally crossing the border between Syria and Turkey and, just like the Pro-Russian rebels did in Donbas and Luhansk, they will then close the door behind him and blow his army to pieces.

Here are a couple of more sensible assessments of the situation than you have expounded.

The Syrian Endgame, “How a War is Lost is Dangerous”. US-NATO, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, “Losers on The Rampage” - By Prof. Tim Anderson

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syrian-endgame-how-a-war-is-lost-is-dangerous-us-nato-saudi-arabia-turkey-losers-on-the-rampage/5507682

Turkey’s Second Army Prepares to Invade Syria

http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkeys-second-army-prepares-to-invade-syria/5507520



This will be the last thing Erdogan will hear ………

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaw5Zm6EskA

Yeh they will. Saudi Troops are already in Turkey.

They wouldn't be there without our approval let me assure you. You got to know who is the puppeteer my friend.

NATO will come to the aid of both Turkey and KSA. In Turkey's case, there is an obligation under article 5. France, Germany, Holland, UK are 100%.

Then you got USA, Australia, Canada and Japan who are also sure to join in.

Let me remind you that Qatar, Jordan and UAE will also be going in.

You should be asking who is going to come to Assad's and Pootin's aid. Turkey on its own has a lot more firepower than Russia does in the area.

Welcome to hell RH!

But lets be very clear. Pootin doesn't even have the balls to attack Turkish and KSA Troops. If he did, the. It will be curtains for him and his client State criminal Assad regime. There is enough coalition firepower in the area to turn all of Syria into glass within days.

Pootin will give them a very wide berth. That is because NATO will have no choice but to respond.

I wouldn't be counting your chickens just yet RH!

[Kikapu]

I'm sorry to tell you this, Paphitis, but unless the USA is leading the charge with her own troops on the ground in Syria which the Americans want no part of it and for what for, Turkey and Saudi Arabia will not be going into Syria, and if they were stupid enough to do so, then I agree with RH, that they will be decimated. I have told you before, that getting Turkey into Syria has been the dream of the USA for a very long time to facilitate the break-up of Turkey, and even though the USA may push Turkey into Syria with the "promise" that the USA will be there to protect her, once Turkey is in Syria, Turkey will be on her own. Without a UN mandate to invade Syria, whomever enters Syria will be at the mercy of the Syrians and the Russians.

We all know that Turkey and Saudi Arabia wanting to come to Syria to fight ISIS is a lot of crap, specially the excuse to come to liberate Raqqa from ISIS. Right now Turkey can ONLY fire shells from within the safety of their borders into Syria. Gee, how brave is that? Erdogan and Davutoglu always talk big, but they really have no influence in Syria. As soon as the PYD is in control of their areas in Syria, their attention will turn to Turkey through whichever means is available to them, and as soon as the PYD form a state along the Turkish border with the blessing of Assad, then they will be able to get all the weapons they want from the USA and Russia. Turkey's days are numbered as the same Turkey we all know today. It is already written. It is a matter of time for it to be implemented, with Turkey's help of course.

Once Turkey crosses into Syria, there goes her NATO protection, hence many leading Turks are worried that Turkey's involvement in Syria might end up Turkey losing Turkish territory, which is what the USA, EU and Russians want. Turkey is being drawn into the slaughterhouse and Erdogan thinks he will be seen as the liberator of Syria. As for getting Saudi Arabia stuck in Syria, well, perhaps the Americans, Russians and the Iranians also have plans for them too, like shutting off their oil in order for the oil prices to rise.

Listen my friend, no one has clean hands in or around Syria, so if you are so adamant that Assad must go, who would you like to replace him, because there's not going to be any democracy in Syria once the dust settles as you might expect one to be.

[miltiades]

This rather naïve and utterly full of shit individual who imagines that he is playing with HIS toys, HIS army, is in fact playing toy soldiers whilst dreaming that his is the ....Commander In Chief. So wet behind the ears he is that he actually believes all the crap that he posts.

By the way, page 21 of this thread, way back in August 2013 he had this, ....contradictory to his current bullshit, say.

" Another thing that confuses me is the fact that the Rebels are backed by fundamentalist Islamists. Sometimes, it is better in helping regimes like Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak maintain their power to keep everything under tight control and peaceful.

Simple fact is, some countries are just not ready for democracy and it is over rated anyway. Let's face it! Is the US, EU, or any other 'democracy' truly a democracy? Just because you get to cast your ballot does not mean you have a say. "

So back then he believed that the rebels opposing the legal Syrian government were backed by fundamentalist islamists, stating that its better to help the Assad regime !!
What an arsehole of a Plonker!

[Garavnoss]

This rather naïve and utterly full of shit individual who imagines that he is playing with HIS toys, HIS army, is in fact playing toy soldiers whilst dreaming that his is the ....Commander In Chief. So wet behind the ears he is that he actually believes all the crap that he posts.

By the way, page 21 of this thread, way back in August 2013 he had this, ....contradictory to his current bullshit, say.

" Another thing that confuses me is the fact that the Rebels are backed by fundamentalist Islamists. Sometimes, it is better in helping regimes like Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak maintain their power to keep everything under tight control and peaceful.

Simple fact is, some countries are just not ready for democracy and it is over rated anyway. Let's face it! Is the US, EU, or any other 'democracy' truly a democracy? Just because you get to cast your ballot does not mean you have a say. "

So back then he believed that the rebels opposing the legal Syrian government were backed by fundamentalist islamists, stating that its better to help the Assad regime !!
What an arsehole of a Plonker!

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