Robin Hood wrote::x Garavnos:The first of many....... IS will have them ALL under control soon enough, the Yanks and the Brits are shitting themselves.
Wishful thinking? I can’t think five aircraft will make much difference and IS as a military force is finished anyway or will be within weeks/months but, the ideology will last well into the future, will spread Worldwide and take the lives of thousands!
Syria/Iraq : Just to recap and I may well have got this all wrong but what strikes me is that:
We have two conflicts running in parallel.
In the first (Syria), an elected government is using the air power of a foreign country to destroy terrorist groups trying to take over their country from within (IS + FSA + rebels), whilst they take the war to their enemy using their own government’s ground forces and those of allies.
In the second (Iraq) an elected government is using the air power of a foreign country(ies) to destroy a terrorist group trying to take over their country from within (IS), whilst they take the war to their enemy using their government’s ground forces and those of allies.
In other words they are both fighting a common enemy called IS/ISIS/ISIL/Daesh? But ..........
In Syria the government is fighting the same insurgents as the western coalition is fighting in Iraq (IS) with the legal backing of the Russian Air Force, but the (US) coalition is also arming and supporting another bunch of insurgents in Syria who are trying to overthrow the Syrian government (FSA+ various .moderate’ rebel groups) but who themselves are in turn, also fighting (supposedly) the same bunch of insurgents as the Syrian Government (IS). In addition a member of the Western coalition (Turkey) is supporting terrorists (Turkomen?) who are also intent on overthrowing the legitimate Syrian government as well as fighting IS (supposedly)
The Syrian government also has the support of Iranian and Hezbollah as boots on the ground and they have prevented the US backed FSA+ from completely overwhelming the SAA.
Another group of insurgents (PKK?) are fighting Turkey and IS and occupy part of Syria. Several other members (Saudi, Bahrain, Qatar et al) of the US coalition are also threatening to mobilise and illegally send combat troops into Syria to supposedly fight the first lot of insurgents (IS) but are opposed to the Syrian government and support and arm the FSA+ who are fighting a civil war using many foreign fighters (Mercenaries) to change the regime in Syria.
If I have missed out any group’s who are fighting Assad I apologise for the omission!
In Iraq the government is fighting the same insurgents as the Assad/Russian coalition is fighting in Syria (IS) with the legal backing of the US/coalition air forces and is backed by 60 countries (in theory only about 5-6 are military active in the air)
That’s it!!!!! .......... the US coalition are not having to fight anyone BUT IS/ISIL/ISIS/Daesh or whatever name they call themselves by! Nobody else is attacking the US coalition.
The US coalition has been active and ‘destroying’ IS, for over two years but is virtually in a stale mate as IS still occupy large swathes of Iraq and Syria. In contrast and in spite of the Syrian government having to fight enemies on about four different fronts, with the Russians entering the conflict to legally support the Syrian government just 17 weeks ago they have driven back both IS and the FSA+ on almost every front and now have some 5000 insurgents trapped in a cauldron centred around Aleppo, along with an estimated 300K civilians.
There have obviously been civilian casualties, which is inevitable in any conflict more so in a civil war, but when an authoritative source such as the BBC are caught out using archive footage to wrongly accuse Russian bombing for the damage and the deaths in Aleppo, then the figures of casualties cannot be relied upon. This Syrian Observatory also misleads by giving ‘civilian’ casualty figures which include Islamic fighters and foreign fighters.
Although there has been the opportunity to formulate a ceasefire many times since 2012, the US coalition has always refused to discuss this ...... until now that is, when they at last realise that the rebels they back are being thrashed by Assad and the Russian coalition, in fact it is a complete rout!
Russia has presented a plan, which no doubt the US will ignore unless it covers all the demands of the Rebels. But Russia and Assad have the upper hand ........ they are winning the battle and the US/coalition and the rebels, are on the losing side. Without risking an escalation the US will have to accept that the best they will get from Assad and Russia, is concessions. That is the way it works!
If the Saudi’s are stupid enough to invade Syria, the Russia/Assad coalition will wipe them out ..... and the US will NOT get involved, neither will members of the coalition. NATO principals are that they will join forces to protect a member who has/is being attacked ....... they have no obligation to support any member country that is the instigator of the hostilities. If you want an example think about Saddam and Kuwait? The US turned a blind eye to the threat from Saddam and it is suggested, even told Saddam they would not interfere ...... that was until he made his move. Saudi should note what happens when the US decides you have served your purpose and have morphed into a liability! Look at Iraq now ...... the perfect example of a once prosperous nation that is now a failed state. Libya was the same story and there are several other examples.
DAESH are our boogey man so stay away. It's personal!
But not as personal as Assad and Pootin who are the biggest threats. We are happy to put DAESH on the back burner for now as we have Aleppo to defend. Pootin is the biggest threat.
Just come and get it and we will see how far you get in the urban environment. But make sure to stop in 6.5 days and God help you should you not succeed!'
You know, you never cease to amaze me. So much hatred for the America and the West, yet both of you have British citizenship. Talk about going against the grain. So what gives?