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[Londonrake]

...indeed, the first casualty was the Rule of Law.

...a Greek Orthodox Bishop as i recall was one of the first casualties in the lawlessness that followed. I remember, because it was hard to believe, not Assad's forces that killed him, but by the armed forces against him. And in the melee what became apparent was that there was no "side", one good and one bad; more a state of those who lost their Humanity, and those who didn't.

...still, we are not organised to provide capacity building, the coalition is based on a military fight as though the hearts and minds of people can be bought, or mostly ignored.

Boots on the ground means Butter, as much as Guns. Spending Billions, and Trillions, is a choice, so are the choices.

To be honest that all sounds....................... very odd.

[tsukoui]

...indeed, the first casualty was the Rule of Law.

...a Greek Orthodox Bishop as i recall was one of the first casualties in the lawlessness that followed. I remember, because it was hard to believe, not Assad's forces that killed him, but by the armed forces against him. And in the melee what became apparent was that there was no "side", one good and one bad; more a state of those who lost their Humanity, and those who didn't.

...still, we are not organised to provide capacity building, the coalition is based on a military fight as though the hearts and minds of people can be bought, or mostly ignored.

Boots on the ground means Butter, as much as Guns. Spending Billions, and Trillions, is a choice, so are the choices.

To be honest that all sounds....................... very odd.

Don't talk about me like that

[repulsewarrior]

...sorry, not Greek Orthodox, but a person who should not have died, one would think, and did, a horrible death.

http://www.fides.org/en/news/32518-ASIA ... pb6aLYrK70

http://www.ibtimes.com/killing-orthodox ... red-855851

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAjDmN8Nbjg

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[Robin Hood]

RW:

...sorry, not Greek Orthodox, but a person who should not have died, one would think, and did, a horrible death.

http://www.fides.org/en/news/32518-ASIA%20...%20pb6aLYrK70 - Seems they blame ‘terrorists’ as the article says "It is a purely terrorist act. Fr. Haddad is a martyr of our church. " Or maybe even the FSA/moderate Islamists as later the article says “...... accuse the armed gangs of armed rebellion in the army.” No mention of ‘Assad did it!’

http://www.ibtimes.com/killing-orthodox%20...%20red-855851 - they insinuate and give the impression it was down to Assad when they say “ .....between 28,000 and 80,000 Syrians have been forcibly "disappeared" by the Assad regime over the past nine months alone.”

Then we get “According to the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, at least 30,000 people have been killed in Syria over the past 19 months. More than two out of three of them were civilians, including women and children, according to the organization’s report.” It’s that one man band again!!!!! Who is vehemently anti-Assad and it was recently shown counts the death of FSA and ‘moderate Islamists ' in their ‘civilian’ death calculations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAjDmN8Nbjg – the footnote to the video says “Western-backed and Wahhabi "Free Syrian Army" (FSA) barbaric terrorists have managed to show their true sectarian face. Greek Orthodox Christian priest of the town of Qatana, Fadi Haddad (43 years of age) was found dead and mutilated (torture marks, eyes gouged out), after the FSA terrorists kidnapped him.” They seem pretty convinced that is was the FSA/ Islamic terrorist that were responsible.

Then the video shows people shouting support for Assad when gunshots are heard and apparently a bomb went off a few seconds later. I some how find it hard to believe that Assad would kill his own very vocal supporters, nor kidnap people for a measly 20K!

So, who done it?

More difficult to ‘fix’ a video than an article, so my bet based on common sense and available ‘evidence’ would be the FSA and the ‘Western supported moderate Islamic’ terrorists!' But it comes down to which source you regard as the more credible.

[repulsewarrior]

...are there examples of the work the Coalition has done, for the return of the Rule of Law? Where they have secured a presence, what does the Coalition do toward mitigation; how do they carry through?

...few words, a capacity for what?

[Kikapu]

What a lying crybaby Davutoglu is.

Turkey hits ISIL targets in Syria, Iraq after İstanbul bombing

"Turkey will continue to punish with even greater force any threat that is directed against Turkey or its guests," Davutoğlu said. "We will press ahead with our determined struggle until the Daesh [ISIL] terrorist organization leaves Turkey's borders … and until it loses its ability to continue with its acts that soil our sacred religion, Islam."

Speaking on Wednesday, Davutoğlu said Russia's entry into the Syrian war is a complicating factor for Turkey's efforts to fight ISIL elements in Syria. Turkish warplanes have not flown in Syrian airspace since Turkey shot down a Russian fighter jet in late November, triggering a diplomatic row with Moscow.

"They (the Russian air force) shouldn't obstruct Turkey's fight against Daesh. ... Right now unfortunately there is such a barrier," Davutoğlu said. "Certain countries have an obstructive attitude in terms of Turkey's air bombardments. They should either destroy Daesh themselves or allow us to do it."

http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_tu ... 09620.html

[repulsewarrior]

...i would like to see Turkey advance the cause of better living. Some of the refugee camps were set up as a transit point for a six month period. This has evolved to years.

I expect from men like Erdogan the same magnanimous effort, for them. I expect a model for this kind of housing, and the treatment these people get; something that merits the esteem that Erdogan wants.

Turkey says that the bomber of Istanbul recently, came from these same camps. Turkey does not have the luxury to send these young militants onward anymore.

Nor does Turkey have much room to criticise Europe on the same issue. And the threat of them in Turkey grows.

[miltiades]

, Russia, in my opinion as well as China are absolutely right in not supporting the revolutionaries infested with Islamic extremists and Jihadis. The West is making a dreadful error in contributing financially to the revolutionaries aided and abated by extremist Islamists who come to Syria from all corners of the world.Stay out of Syria is the best option and the only option that the West should consider.

I posted the above way back in October of 2012, long before the current refugee crisis affecting millions of Syrians.

Recent events have shown that the West was wrong in demanding the removal of the Syrian dictator Assad, at last they, the west, no longer demand his removal, angering the Syrian opposition who are about to exit the current peace talks.

Will the West ever learn that the ME can NOT be peacefully engaged in a democratic governance. Only dictators can effectively, and rather brutally, govern, a historical fact.

Russia was right then, and Russia is right now.

[Paphitis]

, Russia, in my opinion as well as China are absolutely right in not supporting the revolutionaries infested with Islamic extremists and Jihadis. The West is making a dreadful error in contributing financially to the revolutionaries aided and abated by extremist Islamists who come to Syria from all corners of the world.Stay out of Syria is the best option and the only option that the West should consider.

I posted the above way back in October of 2012, long before the current refugee crisis affecting millions of Syrians.

Recent events have shown that the West was wrong in demanding the removal of the Syrian dictator Assad, at last they, the west, no longer demand his removal, angering the Syrian opposition who are about to exit the current peace talks.

Will the West ever learn that the ME can NOT be peacefully engaged in a democratic governance. Only dictators can effectively, and rather brutally, govern, a historical fact.

Russia was right then, and Russia is right now.

We are right and Assad doesn't have a country to rule any more.

You can't expect to rule over a population you are starving to death. Do you think the victims will forget?

No, this war is going on until he either falls or agrees to a transition.

If he really want to remain, then we take 70% of Syria and create 3 more countries and we will have that by internationally recognized treaty and with Pootin's signature to boot.

Say hello to the Kurdish Republic Erdogan.

[miltiades]

What do you mean " WE" .
America has now given up on the demand that Assad steps down, haven't you heard?

Under Assad there were no millions of refugees , not 100s of thousands killed, millions displaced, and most importantly Syria did not have Isis and a myriad of other Islamic groups vying who kills more !

Russia's entry has substantially changed the West's erroneous belief, and if you had any vision yours too.

Do you for one moment think that if Assad was to step down there would be peace and democracy in Syria ?
Not in a thousand years mate.












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