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[Garavnoss]

If you are content to spend the rest of your life with your head up your arse, be my guest.

Surely by now, people should realize that the information that is filtered through to them via the various media sources is doctored to such a degree that the truth becomes an obscurity :- OR, do you really believe that when the "Leaders" of so many nations [whether Military or Political] meet, their primary considerations are the welfare of the people ?.

The "Migrant " situation should give [those discerning ] a clue as to what is truly happening on the world stage, the influx of refugees to so many parts of Europe is THE tool used by those who battle Western aggression and those who are seeking refuge [or the majority of them] have been actively encouraged to impose their presence upon the Western aggressors.

Ultimately, it will be the economical stresses that will determine the negotiations which will surely follow ALL the Military attempts to resolve the mess the West has got itself into.

Saddam Hussein famously predicted that the invasion of Iraq would open the floodgates to the "Mother of ALL battles"., who could NOW laugh at his prediction and deny his foresight ?.

Only old "LickassAkis" will be unable to understand that which stares him in the face, as usual he resorts to his usual counter to anything that is beyond his comprehension, HE will never learn and it is a great pity that he seems to have influenced many other members who may even have been [out of pity] inclined to concur with his inane opinions.. God help them.

In spite of your gigantic efforts to present your self as an ...educated individual. you fail miserably and clearly. You are a vile disgusting individual, a pervert and a thouroughly despicable ...piece of shit. With the likes of you I deal in one and only one mode.
Go fuck your perverted useless filthy self and in the process, whilst playing with your self, pull the detonator and blow your disgusting self to smithereens. Do I detest you, you fucking bet I do you disgusting pervert, now, Fuck off!

What else could anyone expect from YOU, other than your usual torrents of disgusting abuse ?.

Disgusting brain fucked shit deserve no other type of treatment. Go fuck your self but not before you pay a visit and a farewell to the savages that you so much admired. You despicable piece of shit.

What else can one do but laugh at your apparent addiction to obscenity/ blasphemy and crass behaviour ?.

[miltiades]

If you are content to spend the rest of your life with your head up your arse, be my guest.

Surely by now, people should realize that the information that is filtered through to them via the various media sources is doctored to such a degree that the truth becomes an obscurity :- OR, do you really believe that when the "Leaders" of so many nations [whether Military or Political] meet, their primary considerations are the welfare of the people ?.

The "Migrant " situation should give [those discerning ] a clue as to what is truly happening on the world stage, the influx of refugees to so many parts of Europe is THE tool used by those who battle Western aggression and those who are seeking refuge [or the majority of them] have been actively encouraged to impose their presence upon the Western aggressors.

Ultimately, it will be the economical stresses that will determine the negotiations which will surely follow ALL the Military attempts to resolve the mess the West has got itself into.

Saddam Hussein famously predicted that the invasion of Iraq would open the floodgates to the "Mother of ALL battles"., who could NOW laugh at his prediction and deny his foresight ?.

Only old "LickassAkis" will be unable to understand that which stares him in the face, as usual he resorts to his usual counter to anything that is beyond his comprehension, HE will never learn and it is a great pity that he seems to have influenced many other members who may even have been [out of pity] inclined to concur with his inane opinions.. God help them.

In spite of your gigantic efforts to present your self as an ...educated individual. you fail miserably and clearly. You are a vile disgusting individual, a pervert and a thouroughly despicable ...piece of shit. With the likes of you I deal in one and only one mode.
Go fuck your perverted useless filthy self and in the process, whilst playing with your self, pull the detonator and blow your disgusting self to smithereens. Do I detest you, you fucking bet I do you disgusting pervert, now, Fuck off!

What else could anyone expect from YOU, other than your usual torrents of disgusting abuse ?.

Disgusting brain fucked shit deserve no other type of treatment. Go fuck your self but not before you pay a visit and a farewell to the savages that you so much admired. You despicable piece of shit.

What else can one do but laugh at your apparent addiction to obscenity/ blasphemy and crass behaviour ?.

I shall soon be exposing you as an ISIS operative, sympathiser, supporter, and recruiter. Watch out pervert !

[Garavnoss]

What else can one do but laugh at your apparent addiction to obscenity/ blasphemy and crass behaviour ?.

I shall soon be exposing you as an ISIS operative, sympathiser, supporter, and recruiter. Watch out pervert !

Silly old cunt, I do believe that you would be daft enough to do it.

[Robin Hood]

What else can one do but laugh at your apparent addiction to obscenity/ blasphemy and crass behaviour ?.

I shall soon be exposing you as an ISIS operative, sympathiser, supporter, and recruiter. Watch out pervert !

Silly old cunt, I do believe that you would be daft enough to do it.

By all means have your differences but do you have to be so offensive? The use of obscenities in conversation is an indication that the user is poorly educated.

So how about ..... we get back to the subject of 'The war against Syria' ?

[Garavnoss]

Oh!, has "WAR" been declared ?, sorry, I didn't know, I was under the impression that the whole scenario in ALL of the regions of conflict in the Middle Eastern regions [and elsewhere] are the culmination of Western aggression subsequent to the unlawful and deadly attacks by the Yanks upon the innocent sleeping nation of Iraq....{do you not recall ?].

I think we should be ashamed of ourselves if we are able to accept that the situations in the aforementioned regions are acceptable, even under the guise of "WAR" which is so obviously code for indicating that the West intends to continue it's destructive ambitions in so many places regardless of the sufferings of the multitudes of innocent civilians affected by it all.

As to the offensive language, I entirely agree BUT, kindly direct your comment to the resident offender, I think you will find that in every case, HE is the instigator and has proven himself [time and again] to be incapable of polite disagreement.

"Fight fire with fire" is the only answer to him, his filth is a contaminant and unfortunately seems to have rubbed off on me.

[Robin Hood]

Oh!, has "WAR" been declared ?, sorry, I didn't know.

That was the title of the thread and I didn't chose that! Is it war? Yes, but is it a 'legal' war ..... NO!

I was under the impression that the whole scenario in ALL of the regions of conflict in the Middle Eastern regions [and elsewhere] are the culmination of Western aggression subsequent to the unlawful and deadly attacks by the Yanks upon the innocent sleeping nation of Iraq....{do you not recall ?].

I agree and YES I remember both of them. The first had a UN mandate and was legal, in that context, but the second war was not legal as there was no mandate and no invitation, it was a US declared war.

I think we should be ashamed of ourselves if we are able to accept that the situations in the aforementioned regions are acceptable, even under the guise of "WAR" which is so obviously code for indicating that the West intends to continue it's destructive ambitions in so many places regardless of the sufferings of the multitudes of innocent civilians affected by it all.

I agree

As to the offensive language, I entirely agree BUT, kindly direct your comment to the resident offender, I think you will find that in every case, HE is the instigator and has proven himself [time and again] to be incapable of polite disagreement.

"Fight fire with fire" is the only answer to him, his filth is a contaminant and unfortunately seems to have rubbed off on me.

I'm no Christian but try turning the other cheek or use caustic sarcasm!

[miltiades]

Any person who openly supports what the entire world considers abhorrent, barbaric , namely the Isis savages, can not reasonable expect a civil debate on his / her disgusting views. Such views you , Pervert, hold and unashamedly express at each given opportunity.

I would most certainly not enter into a civil debate with a child moster, a murderer , or an Isis supporter such as you, Pervert.

You deserve each insult I throw at you and I make no apologies.
Go to hell you low down disgusting piece of shit.

[Robin Hood]

This is an interesting documentary/ video, on the background to the conflicts in the ME (including reference to Syria) and elsewhere. Lasts about 20 minutes but easily understood.

The Geopolitics of World War III

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/geopolitics-world-war-3/



An interesting paper by Prof, Tim Anderson who is as near an expert as you could get regarding Syria.

Is the article biased? It is very factual and has an abundance of sources referenced but yes, there may be a slight bias but no deliberate distortion of the facts to suit the argument. Warning ..... it is a long read, quite detailed, well date referenced and describes the events in Syria which I have always believe will put Assad back in power if the outcome is a free vote, without US imposed limitations on his participation. But it gives a far more honest summary than that we will ever see in the MSM of what went on in Syria before and after the troubles began.

The article goes into some detail to dispel the propaganda that Assad is hated by the Syrian people ..... according to this it seems not to be the fact.

Syria: NATO’s next war.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/indepthreport/syria-nato-s-next-war

[Garavnoss]

Any person who openly supports what the entire world considers abhorrent, barbaric , namely the Isis savages, can not reasonable expect a civil debate on his / her disgusting views. Such views you , Pervert, hold and unashamedly express at each given opportunity.

I would most certainly not enter into a civil debate with a child moster, a murderer , or an Isis supporter such as you, Pervert.

You deserve each insult I throw at you and I make no apologies.
Go to hell you low down disgusting piece of shit.

My apologies to Robin Hood BUT, as stated............ "Silly old cunt !"

[Paphitis]

Oh!, has "WAR" been declared ?, sorry, I didn't know.

That was the title of the thread and I didn't chose that! Is it war? Yes, but is it a 'legal' war ..... NO!

I was under the impression that the whole scenario in ALL of the regions of conflict in the Middle Eastern regions [and elsewhere] are the culmination of Western aggression subsequent to the unlawful and deadly attacks by the Yanks upon the innocent sleeping nation of Iraq....{do you not recall ?].

I agree and YES I remember both of them. The first had a UN mandate and was legal, in that context, but the second war was not legal as there was no mandate and no invitation, it was a US declared war.

I think we should be ashamed of ourselves if we are able to accept that the situations in the aforementioned regions are acceptable, even under the guise of "WAR" which is so obviously code for indicating that the West intends to continue it's destructive ambitions in so many places regardless of the sufferings of the multitudes of innocent civilians affected by it all.

I agree

As to the offensive language, I entirely agree BUT, kindly direct your comment to the resident offender, I think you will find that in every case, HE is the instigator and has proven himself [time and again] to be incapable of polite disagreement.

"Fight fire with fire" is the only answer to him, his filth is a contaminant and unfortunately seems to have rubbed off on me.

I'm no Christian but try turning the other cheek or use caustic sarcasm!

Coalition action in Iraq against DAESH is NOT illegal. That is undeniable.

Coalition action in Syria, is also not illegal. Claims that it is are very sketchy to say the least and without legal basis. What is certain is that the UN Charter has provided legal grounds and a foot to stand on as far as Coalition military involvements in Syria are concerned in the present form of that military action.

I will explain (try to anyway with my limited legal background) ...

Article 2.4 signed in 1945 states that UN Members will not use force against another State. The Coalition has not used force against the State of Syria.

It also states that Members must respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of States. Well no action thus far has indicated that the coalition does not respect the territorial integrity of Syria. The territory of Syria however, could be subject to partition by International Treaty if Assad remains in power. That means, that Syria will be carved up and other States will be formed with population exchanges.

http://www.un.org/en/sc/repertoire/prin ... shtml#rel2

Also, there are mandated rules by the UN which do not prohibit Military Action through what is termed as "collective-defence" under UN Article 51.

Article 51
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

http://www.un.org/en/sections/un-charte ... index.html

Now, the coalition is in the Middle East to assist the Iraqi Government to maintain its territorial integrity against terrorist Islamist Organisations such as DAESH. This terrorist group use Syria as their Spring Board. Therefore, we have expanded our operations into Syria under collective-defence rules. This has now even more credibility since the USA, France and Australia have all been attacked by DAESH on their own territory.

Please note, that the absence of a UN Security Council resolution does not automatically imply that this action under Article 51 (which is what the Coalition will imply if attacked) makes that action illegal, because the Article itself implies that States do have a right for "collective-defence".

Of course, these Articles are written to outline the rules for Military Action of member States against another State. Well DAESH is not a State so that adds an element of ambiguity to the equation. Also, the Coalition is NOT engaged in any Military Action against Syria. So again, there are no legal grounds. This is uncharted territory because in 1945 when these Articles were written, it was not envisaged that the new threats to peace and stability will be from illegal terrorist organisations like DAESH and as a result, the Articles were written for State Vs State military engagements which this is clearly not the case in Syria.

However, there was an ICJ Ruling interpreting the Rights of Nations to invoke individual or collective self defence. Please see the below link. Here the ruling stipulates that the Article does not stipulate the types of aggressors, whether that is a State or a Terrorist Organisation. As a result, let's say there was a terrorist organisation in Cyprus attacking Australia. Well, Australia would have the right to attack that organisation within Cypriot Sovereign territory. That can in itself include Air Strikes and Troops on the Ground (Invasion) as long as there is an intention to respect Sovereign Territorial Integrity after the fact or until the UN takes control and there is a UN invoked settlement to bring peace and stability which also addresses Australia's security concerns with regard to this Terrorist Group (I use this example for illustrative purposes only).

Some more interesting reading for you here:

http://www.un.org/en/sections/un-charte ... index.html

Sorry, but saying that coalition action is illegal does not make it so under the letter of the UN Articles. I had to learn about all this stuff at one time.

Again, you need to look at your clearing house source and do some cross checking over the validity of their erroneous claims which have no legal standing at all.

Also, make no mistake about it! Each member of the Coalition has a team of some of the best International Experts, Lawyers available who would have on behalf of their Governments provided very sound interpretation and advice regarding their legal standing concerning their Military Engagements and as a result they do certainly have a leg to stand on and based on my interpretation and the interpretations of more knowledgeable experts, there is no specific Article that categorically implies that Coalition Action in Syria is illegal which probably explains the lack of formal legal engagements within the UN or ICJ against us.

So all we get is a bunch of hubris from very bias and anti western media outlets, like the ones you like.

here is another interesting read for you:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-18/i ... ck/6765386