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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kurupetos » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:23 pm

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:The Arab women are ....gorgeous

you say that in saudi arabia and see what happens to you.

No need for him to worry... he's old. :mrgreen:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:49 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:The Arab women are ....gorgeous

you say that in saudi arabia and see what happens to you.

No need for him to worry... he's old. :mrgreen:


My comment was ...sarcastic since i consider Arab women to be the most unattractive , non glamorous medeival creatures, so much so that if the entire female population world wide was such i would most certainly chop it off and have it dangling from my ...rear , yak
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Re: The war against Syria

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby DrCyprus » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:50 pm

kurupetos wrote:Did you see this lady: http://www.mizozo.com/entertainment/05/ ... -nsfw.html

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Şahin is a Turkish surname. She is Turkish. :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kurupetos » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:34 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Did you see this lady: http://www.mizozo.com/entertainment/05/ ... -nsfw.html

:mrgreen:


Şahin is a Turkish surname. She is Turkish. :lol:

Shahini? :shock: :lol:

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:35 pm

miltiades wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:The Arab women are ....gorgeous

you say that in saudi arabia and see what happens to you.

No need for him to worry... he's old. :mrgreen:


My comment was ...sarcastic since i consider Arab women to be the most unattractive , non glamorous medeival creatures, so much so that if the entire female population world wide was such i would most certainly chop it off and have it dangling from my ...rear , yak

i did not realise how racist you are you stupid old fool. are all arab ladies the same. flippin heck man.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:37 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Did you see this lady: http://www.mizozo.com/entertainment/05/ ... -nsfw.html

:mrgreen:


Şahin is a Turkish surname. She is Turkish. :lol:

the last picture was definitely taken in terggy. you stupid boy.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:10 am

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:The Arab women are ....gorgeous

you say that in saudi arabia and see what happens to you.

No need for him to worry... he's old. :mrgreen:


My comment was ...sarcastic since i consider Arab women to be the most unattractive , non glamorous medeival creatures, so much so that if the entire female population world wide was such i would most certainly chop it off and have it dangling from my ...rear , yak

i did not realise how racist you are you stupid old fool. are all arab ladies the same. flippin heck man.


I did not realize how incabable you are of debating anything other than the contents of a greasey kebab.
To be eclectic when it comes to women its not racist you stupid old fool. To find women dressed in black from head to toe unattractive is NOT racist, its being choosy preferring ...blondes with a womans figure not a bloody vampires looks.
I reiterate , Arab women as well as others who consider it necessary to deem their entire body as a vagina and cover it up ate UGLY, undesirable and an eyesore.
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Re: The war against Syria

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 31, 2015 9:26 am

Are you bloody joking. The coalition doesn't want to rule Syria. We don't even need any bases there unlike Pootin


Robin Hood wrote:I didn’t suggest the 'we' wanted to rule but it appears that they want a very big say in who does! That I see that as interference in another states affairs. BTW: The Russian base was little more than a bunkering facility and the airfields only came into use in this conflict when Assad asked for Russian assistance. Putin has made it very clear that when the job is done Russia will withdraw ....... at least form the airfields. The port of Tarsus is under lease and was run right down until quite recently.


No we did not interfere AT ALL! We never had any intention of interfering either, and we still ARE NOT interfering in any way shape or form. We are in Syria engaged in military action against DAESH and Al Nusra at the moment, and that might be expanded to a few more Islamic groups that we categorize as terrorists but we do not engage all militant opposition groups, and we have never engaged Syria itself or Assad's Forces.

We are as of recently, providing close support to some militant groups such as the FSA, a few others, the YPG and Peshmerga. We are not apologetic for it either.

We believe that Assad's Opposition have rights in Syria, and we are willing to support them in winning those rights, and when they do, Assad no longer has a future. If for instance, the Syrian People want to vote for an Islamic Brotherhood as was the case in Egypt, we are willing to accept the result and wishes of the majority voters.

..... With every Syrian being free to vote, Assad is a gonna and you know that
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Robin Hood wrote:I regard the Syrians as a practical people and they will choose what suits them. They did not rise in their thousands to join the FSA, the FSA was/is a relatively very small band of army mutineers who were against Assad because he favoured Alawites in the top ranks. Most of this opposition fighting force are NOT ex-army. Assad has even offered them an amnesty on the condition that individuals have not committed human right crimes. They turned a revolution of the people against Assads rule into a civil war, then the West backed them and supplied weapons. Faced with what they had under Assads rule and the prospect of another Islamic State run by fanatics ..... I know what I would vote for what I know is possible .......... not a LA LA land of Sharia law and all that brings with it.(a bit like looking for paradise and 72 virgins????)


Most Syrians did not rise. It takes a special breed to choose the life of a Guerrilla in the desert or forests getting blasted by Barrel Bombs continuously.

The question is predominately who is it that the majority Syrians support. We know it's not Assad and we know its not DAESH or Al Nusra. Our interference is to ensure that the majority will have an opportunity to have their say.

The offering of Amnesty is something that is not going to wash. I mean fair dinkum, can you imagine an ex Syrian Officer now with the FSA asking for Amnesty? He wouldn't do it because he will eventually be killed and not only this, but Assad's secret service will wipe out his family and relatives.

Not to mention the fact that we will NEVER accept any elections run by the regime and recognize the outcome as being fair
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Robin Hood wrote:There you go with the ‘we’ again! Read what I said! “We can only do our best to ensure as far as possible that they (that is ALL Syrians) have a free and fair vote.” I will add ....... that applies irrespective of who takes part or who wins. With a fair vote under the auspices of the UN I think it quite likely that the Syrian people will choose the Devil they know.


Put it on the table. We both know that this IS NOT on the table.

Our definition of a free vote is under UN Auspices and International Observation and scrutinizing. We do not accept a vote organised and arranged for by the Assad regime.

I think he (Putin) has given in. They have been negotiating the terms of Assad's transition. The transition is on the table.


Robin Hood wrote:That is not ‘Assad must go!’ which was the very vocal demand of the west until Putin joined in the fight. Assad will NOT ‘organise’ the election process but his party will be part of it as will representatives of the FSA and both Sunni and Shia communities.


Yes he must go and will go. There is no way we will accept the current Status Quo unless of course Syrians vote for him (in free elections) and I think Assad has buckley's chance of this occurring.

But since we know that free elections are not on the table, we want a transitional process towards free elections or alternative administration and we have no concerns or objections against Russia's continued presence if that is an issue for Pootin.

Pootin's actions are purely for strategic gain.


Robin Hood wrote:Russia is the largest country on the Planet. Putin has no need or wish for strategic/territorial gain. Russia is rich in natural resources and in some spheres is way ahead of the US in technology. He may have a couple of overseas basis but tell me; How many military facilities does the US have overseas? I think if you check, it is between 800 and 1000. Now, being pragmatic ..... who does that say has the largest strategic interests outside their own national borders? Russia also has a great potential to become a major economic power ...... in time.

The US is going the other way! Instead of using its own manpower to produce its own products, big business has transferred all the manufacturing jobs to places where they get cheap labour and can make maximum profits. The same applies to many EU countries particularly the UK.


The USA has military bases world wide on the invitation of most countries, because of strategic alliances. For instance, there are major alliances between the USA and most European Countries who are members of NATO, some Gulf States, Japan, Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea, and another alliance block in the Assia Pacific (ANZUS) involving Australia and NZ. There are 40,000 US Troops in Australia. In addition, there is the joint Pine Gap facility which is the most powerful spy and Signals Facility on the planet. It's all by invitation, and it is an insurance policy.

For instance, at the moment, the USA is engaged in over flights in the South China Sea. These are major sea lanes between the massive trade routes connecting South Korea, Japan, and Australia.

The Islamists are no threat to us, no matter how much the media and a few politicians beat it up. Russia is the country that will experience problems, not us.


Robin Hood wrote:Really? Then what is all this ‘War on Terror’ crap that has put the fear of God into the people of the US and many European countries? Russia showed in Chechnya what happens when Islamists prod the Russian Bear. Of course they are smart enough to realize that just bombing the shit out of them is not the final solution, so they keep the lid firmly nailed down and just like the US does, they make sure that the guy running the show maybe a bastard but he is one of their bastards! The difference between the two Nations is that the Russians are doing it on their soil but the US and their allies chose somebody else’s back yard and proxy armies, to protect their interests.


Don't expect us to do a Chechnya now, but we don't have the same problems as Russia potentially has. Sure, the odd terrorist attack here or there will occur, but they are no threat to us. Yes your average Joe will be "shocked" but don't under estimate our society. Our people still go about their normal business so in the end even the terrorist attacks do not achieve the desired outcomes of those who commit these crimes.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation. Iran is an Islamic Republic.


Robin Hood wrote:Read the history of the reason Hezbollah came into being and why Iran supported and trained them and still supplies them with weapons! I notice you don’t question Israel’s support for terrorist groups! Some of them operate inside Iran ..... they are the ones that assassinate their Nuclear scientists!


They assasinate their scientists and the world is better place for it. I would assassinate them too if I were in Netanyahu's shoes. I got no issue with that.

Robin Hood wrote:Hezbollah is defence force, like the IDF claims to be, but they have something to defend their country against .......... the IDF! Or have you forgotten what happened in Lebanon when the Israelis murdered aroud 3000 Palestinian refugees? That gave birth to Hezbollah ..... check it out and twice since then they have repelled invasions by the Israelis into Lebanon.


But the Iranian Military is no defence force. And Hesbollah are known for attacking civilian targets in Israel. They do it because they love it when Israel responds in Gaza, and they even place their rockets near schools and hospitals in order to invite the Israelis to bomb them.

Robin Hood wrote:BTW: You keep saying how Turkey had the right to shoot down that Russian SU because it strayed into their airspace? Do you know that Israeli jets attack Syria almost daily (at least weekly) to actually attack Syrian facilities which of course are always weapons destined for Hezbolah .......according to the Israeli’s ..... even then they are not only straying but attacking a sovereign country! Again another example of Western hypocrisy? One day the Syrians (with the help of Russia) is going to bring down an Israeli jet and we will then see whether the ‘airspace infringement’ argument will apply!


Well, I also believe Israel has the right to attack Hesbollah Interests in Syria. They are NOT attacking Assad, just one of his terrorist supporters, which are supplying themselves with arms from Iran to attack the State of Israel.

Self Defence! prevention is better than cure and all that.

But you continue to give credence to some unusual sources. Only yesterday you were giving me links to RT, and Smirnoff.


Robin Hood wrote:RT is the equivalent of FOX, CNN, BBC, SKY Al Jazeera etc. what I am more interested in is independent web sites such as Information Clearing House, Global Research, Black Listed News and other ‘credible’ sites that do not rely upon advertising to survive, as you suggest, which is why they are continually asking for donations to support them. These are just to pay the running costs not to pay the authors and journalists who provide the articles. They have a vested interest in providing far more detailed coverage of events than you will ever find in the MSM. Ask your wife about journalistic independence and the MSM? What you describe is how the MSM works, that is not true (or at least to a much lesser extent) to these independent crowd funded ‘publishing’ outlets.


There are many bloggers masquerading as "news agencies" and they have their agendas too. Some of those you have chosen have a particularly anti Western agenda, or an anti USA agenda and it is obvious and as a result they lack credibility. But at least we allow them their voice and don't shut them down or kill them.

You're dreaming to say that RT is just like FOX News, and to even suggest CNN, Al Jazeera is ludicrous. I grant you that FOX news is Right Wing, has an agenda of its own, is biased and as a result you can question the validity of some of their reporting, but they are still the free press, influenced by no Government but their own agenda. RT is NOT free at all and neither is Smirnoff or whatever they call themselves.

Robin Hood wrote:As for your admiration of the Arabs; You obviously mixed with the upper class Arabs, maybe their equivalent of the 1%? I worked at the lower levels of senior management and senior engineers ..... most of whom seemed to be related to ‘somebody’ important ..... it was just like being in Cyprus????? :roll: They mainly got their jobs through connections rather than talent or competence!


I support their ways to some extent. Their leaders (often Dictators, and Royal Families) must look after their people and that is exactly what they are doing. Each Arab male is entitles to free land granted to them by the Kingdom. Females are not allowed the same privilege, but I never claimed that they were equitable. They have many things to work on, but they are also great people, and making great progress. Personally, I've NEVER met friendlier and classier people and I have traveled a lot.

Not anymore RH.


Robin Hood wrote:I have to admit I am going back about 15 years, so my recollections of Saudi may be out of date.


They are spending Billions improving themselves every year. The key focus seems to be in building the best educational institutions, and freeing up access to the under-privileged.

But of course I would prefer Dubai and Abu Dhabi, because you can do just about anything there as if you were living in the USA.


Robin Hood wrote:There are a lot of foreigners rotting in their Prisons, who made that mistake. :shock: :roll: :wink:


Moral of the story, don't make any mistakes.

My son was carrying a water bottle once and all of a sudden an Arab was running after me saying Sir, Sir, Sir....please put that bottle in the bag. It's Ramadan Sir! I don't care he told me, but someone else might he said. Please be careful Sir. Look after your beautiful boy he said and gave him a pat on the head.

Arabs are great people. We then went into a French Restaurant that was covered in Black Drapes so people can't see inside, sat down and ate, and also had alcohol.
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