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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:13 am

Lordo wrote:dont be stupid hamas was elected in gaza and the yanks or the west have not accepted them. so were the brotherhood in egypt and they were removed too. you are a 2 year old child when it comes to politics. considering your age you should be ashamed.


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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:26 am

Lordo wrote:dont be stupid hamas was elected in gaza and the yanks or the west have not accepted them. so were the brotherhood in egypt and they were removed too. you are a 2 year old child when it comes to politics. considering your age you should be ashamed.


That's my whole point, stupid. Lets see if the west accepts an ISIL member elected as president of Syria since they want Assad replaced. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:31 am

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:dont be stupid hamas was elected in gaza and the yanks or the west have not accepted them. so were the brotherhood in egypt and they were removed too. you are a 2 year old child when it comes to politics. considering your age you should be ashamed.


That's my whole point, stupid. Lets see if the west accepts an ISIL member elected as president of Syria since they want Assad replaced. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No way!

That will be all out war which will take us all the way to Damascus.

There is no way Pootin will accept that either. That's when you see Pootin and Obama singing each other's tune.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:32 am

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:dont be stupid hamas was elected in gaza and the yanks or the west have not accepted them. so were the brotherhood in egypt and they were removed too. you are a 2 year old child when it comes to politics. considering your age you should be ashamed.


That's my whole point, stupid. Lets see if the west accepts an ISIL member elected as president of Syria since they want Assad replaced. :roll: :roll: :roll:

who is being stupid ffs. talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:39 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:dont be stupid hamas was elected in gaza and the yanks or the west have not accepted them. so were the brotherhood in egypt and they were removed too. you are a 2 year old child when it comes to politics. considering your age you should be ashamed.


That's my whole point, stupid. Lets see if the west accepts an ISIL member elected as president of Syria since they want Assad replaced. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No way!

That will be all out war which will take us all the way to Damascus.

There is no way Pootin will accept that either. That's when you see Pootin and Obama singing each other's tune.


So, the sure thing for the west and the Russians for the time being is to keep Assad where he is and at the same time destroy the ISIL terrorists and cut of all the terrorist lines between Turkey and Syria, and then think about having an open elections and then let the best man or woman win. This is Russia's vision but has not been the west's, even though, the west is starting to come in seeing things the way Russia is seeing things.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:47 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:dont be stupid hamas was elected in gaza and the yanks or the west have not accepted them. so were the brotherhood in egypt and they were removed too. you are a 2 year old child when it comes to politics. considering your age you should be ashamed.


That's my whole point, stupid. Lets see if the west accepts an ISIL member elected as president of Syria since they want Assad replaced. :roll: :roll: :roll:


No way!

That will be all out war which will take us all the way to Damascus.

There is no way Pootin will accept that either. That's when you see Pootin and Obama singing each other's tune.


So, the sure thing for the west and the Russians for the time being is to keep Assad where he is and at the same time destroy the ISIL terrorists and cut of all the terrorist lines between Turkey and Syria, and then think about having an open elections and then let the best man or woman win. This is Russia's vision but has not been the west's, even though, the west is starting to come in seeing things the way Russia is seeing things.


No we will only accept a transition plan.

The rebels more importantly will only even negotiate if there is a plan for transition on the table.

that's what it is all about. Getting all the parties at the table.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:52 am

Not every Syrian is in the country at this time, and many of those that have fled don't have ID to prove they are eligible to vote from wherever they are. So, not everyone will have the opportunity to vote.

Furthermore. Assad said he would do exactly this and change the constitution back in 2012. Obviously, it was dismissed by the coalition as being hot air. Syrian television quoted a draft “The political system of the state will be based on a principle of political plurality and democracy will be practiced through the voting box.”

The truth of the matter is that this conflict could have ended a long time ago but outsiders have their own interests and their own agenda's and use propaganda and distort the truth to keep the conflict going until their objective is achieved. Paphitis, you have said before that the coalition is there until the job is done. Until what job is done exactly? Is it this that we are talking about, fair and free elections? Its not up to the coalition to put a panel of politicians in front of the Syrian people to choose from, from those that the coalition decides they must. In other words, their puppets like they did in Ukraine.

Well, the rebels and Syrian government forces need to commit to a ceasefire so this notion can proceed. And even Assad should have the right to stand for elections because Syrian's have the right to vote for him if they want.

End of story.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:55 am

one more thing.

ISIS can be suffocated in a short amount of time when you cut off their finances and stop supplying them with weapons as well as target their stronghold directly. So the coalition and Russia should turn to their sponsors and destroy them as well.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:56 am

Maximus wrote:Not every Syrian is in the country at this time, and many of those that have fled don't have ID to prove they are eligible to vote from wherever they are. So, not everyone will have the opportunity to vote.

Furthermore. Assad said he would do exactly this and change the constitution back in 2012. Obviously, it was dismissed by the coalition as being hot air. Syrian television quoted a draft “The political system of the state will be based on a principle of political plurality and democracy will be practiced through the voting box.”

The truth of the matter is that this conflict could have ended a long time ago but outsiders have their own interests and their own agenda's and use propaganda and distort the truth to keep the conflict going until their objective is achieved. Paphitis, you have said before that the coalition is there until the job is done. Until what job is done exactly? Is it this that we are talking about, fair and free elections? Its not up to the coalition to put a panel of politicians in front of the Syrian people to choose from, from those that the coalition decides they must. In other words, their puppets like they did in Ukraine.

Well, the rebels and Syrian government forces need to commit to a ceasefire so this notion can proceed. And even Assad should have the right to stand for elections because Syrian's have the right to vote for him if they want.

End of story.


Many of those who have fled can vote in the countries where Syria has an embassy and other polling stations can be set up by the UN in places like Turkey, Greece, Germany, Hungary, France and UK as well as all the refugee centres in Jordan.

They can work it out if they wanted to.

Our only issue is allowing everyone an opportunity to vote. That includes the Sunnis.

And no the rebels will not just down their arms. Why would they? So they can be a pleb on the fringes with no vote and no future and probably no life because they would be extinguished?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:58 am

How can they prove they are eligible to vote if they don't have any ID?

Many of them fled Syria with nothing to prove they are Syrian.
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