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[kurupetos]

rekse bodji reh vromismene, yemesesda dora.

o yidonissu yemasen di vragandu, na do blinnis.

Have you ever washed yourself?

i do gavole once a month even if i dont need it.

Don't wash so often, because you may damage your silky skin.

[Lordo]

rekse bodji reh maymuni du djangi dje o angonisdu seydali

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis – if you can possibly drag yourself away from the usual childish Terrgy vs GC distraction for a while?

A long read but it goes into the background of the Syrian conflict not normally covered by the Media. No less than the US Joint Chiefs of Staff give explanations of what goes on behind the scenes and from a journalist with a lot of credibility.

Military to Military US Intelligence Sharing in the Syrian War

By Seymour M. Hersh - Seymour Myron "Sy" Hersh is an American investigative journalist and political writer based in Washington, D.C.

© LRB Limited 2015

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43775.htm

[Paphitis]

Paphitis – if you can possibly drag yourself away from the usual childish Terrgy vs GC distraction for a while?

A long read but it goes into the background of the Syrian conflict not normally covered by the Media. No less than the US Joint Chiefs of Staff give explanations of what goes on behind the scenes and from a journalist with a lot of credibility.

Military to Military US Intelligence Sharing in the Syrian War

By Seymour M. Hersh - Seymour Myron "Sy" Hersh is an American investigative journalist and political writer based in Washington, D.C.

© LRB Limited 2015

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43775.htm

Thanks! Give me some time and I will read it.

But be warned! I am with the coalition on this 100% and I won't change my mind through thick and thin. I believe in what they are doing and that they have been diligently fighting DAESH.

I also support regime change in Syria and a quick peace settlement involving most of the waring parties minus DAESH, Al Nusra and a couple of other groups. For them, I support a continued and sustained coalition war effort until their ultimate destruction. Russia is free to join this war effort along with the Syrian Security Forces.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

I also support regime change in Syria

I agree with the Russians view, and the view of many other nations, that it is up to the Syrian people to make that decision and no other country, government or world leader.

Russia is free to join this war effort along with the Syrian Security Forces.

There is no argument that Russian intervention is legal and any military movements within the Syrian territorial borders without invitation of the government or a UN Mandate is illegal. In my perception of events, it has been Russian intervention that has bought about the possibility of a negotiated settlement. Maybe they will let the NATO block join THEIR effort, which you have to admit has achieved more in two months than 4 years of Western coalition action.

Note what that article says about the advice given to the US President about his ‘Assad must go!’ policy ....... now the demand has dropped to a whisper and Assad will stay until the people of Syria vote and say clearly that they have had enough of him and his family.

Again, in my book, it is not up to anyone other than the Syrians to make the decision as to whether he should stand for re-election or not. If the people don’t want him ..... they will let the rest of the world know when they vote. To do otherwise would be giving in to terrorism .... surely you can see that.

If the vote process is monitored by the UN, the voting process is deemed fair, and says Assad is the one chosen by the people to lead Syria ......... then so be it. The US and NATO countries may not like the outcome, if that happened to be the result, but it has sod all to do with them.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

I also support regime change in Syria

I agree with the Russians view, and the view of many other nations, that it is up to the Syrian people to make that decision and no other country, government or world leader.

The Syrian People have already made that decision and they made it 4 years ago and the opposition continues today.

Russia is free to join this war effort along with the Syrian Security Forces.

There is no argument that Russian intervention is legal and any military movements within the Syrian territorial borders without invitation of the government or a UN Mandate is illegal. In my perception of events, it has been Russian intervention that has bought about the possibility of a negotiated settlement. Maybe they will let the NATO block join THEIR effort, which you have to admit has achieved more in two months than 4 years of Western coalition action.

Note what that article says about the advice given to the US President about his ‘Assad must go!’ policy ....... now the demand has dropped to a whisper and Assad will stay until the people of Syria vote and say clearly that they have had enough of him and his family.

Again, in my book, it is not up to anyone other than the Syrians to make the decision as to whether he should stand for re-election or not. If the people don’t want him ..... they will let the rest of the world know when they vote. To do otherwise would be giving in to terrorism .... surely you can see that.

If the vote process is monitored by the UN, the voting process is deemed fair, and says Assad is the one chosen by the people to lead Syria ......... then so be it. The US and NATO countries may not like the outcome, if that happened to be the result, but it has sod all to do with them.

We are not interested in semantics.

There is also a moral argument over the Coalition's legality as far as their operations are concerned. These operations are supported by a large proportion of Syrian society, particularly those parts that have absolutely no say. This is why there is a Civil War.

Once again, once the Peace Treaty is sign and sealed, Pootin is free to join Coalition ranks and be a good boy.

[Maximus]

There is a civil war in Syria because Assad doesn't want a Qatari gas pipeline going through his country.

Like Robin Hood has said, the only country that is on the right side of the law in Syria is Russia. Not the opposition and definitely not the coalition. So your assertion about the coalitions preferences Paphitis really don't matter. They are acting like a criminal cartel exporting destruction and displacing people.

Their preference is to install another "Butcher of Damascus" that will be their puppet, who will do what they say and not be friendly to Russia. Just like they did in the Ukraine.

Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay - (this was 4 years ago)

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... propaganda

[Paphitis]

There is a civil war in Syria because Assad doesn't want a Qatari gas pipeline going through his country.

Like Robin Hood has said, the only country that is on the right side of the law in Syria is Russia. Not the opposition and definitely not the coalition. So your assertion about the coalitions preferences Paphitis really don't matter. They are acting like a criminal cartel. Their preference is to install another "Butcher of Damascus" that will be their puppet, who will do what they say and not be friendly to Russia. Just like they did in the Ukraine.

Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay - (this was 4 years ago)

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... propaganda

Really? The 13 million odd Sunni Syrians want their say in the countries future.

That is what is going to happen and if a QATARI pipeline then so be it. The days where the Alawites exclusively control Syria are over!

Ass ad's position is untenable. Pootin knows it too.

[Maximus]

There is a civil war in Syria because Assad doesn't want a Qatari gas pipeline going through his country.

Like Robin Hood has said, the only country that is on the right side of the law in Syria is Russia. Not the opposition and definitely not the coalition. So your assertion about the coalitions preferences Paphitis really don't matter. They are acting like a criminal cartel. Their preference is to install another "Butcher of Damascus" that will be their puppet, who will do what they say and not be friendly to Russia. Just like they did in the Ukraine.

Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay - (this was 4 years ago)

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... propaganda

Really? The 13 million odd Sunni Syrians want their say in the countries future.

That is what is going to happen and if a QATARI pipeline then so be it. The days where the Alawites exclusively control Syria are over!

Ass ad's position is untenable. Pootin knows it too.

No, you are missing the point.

The point is Assad refused the Qatari pipeline first and then there was a 'civil war'. The civil war was engineered as a result and you have become a casualty of western distortions and propaganda about the situation.

You dont want to understand that the coalitions involvement in Syria is illegal and goes against the UN charter.

Russia is the only foreign country that has legitimacy regarding the situation in Syria.

[Paphitis]

There is a civil war in Syria because Assad doesn't want a Qatari gas pipeline going through his country.

Like Robin Hood has said, the only country that is on the right side of the law in Syria is Russia. Not the opposition and definitely not the coalition. So your assertion about the coalitions preferences Paphitis really don't matter. They are acting like a criminal cartel. Their preference is to install another "Butcher of Damascus" that will be their puppet, who will do what they say and not be friendly to Russia. Just like they did in the Ukraine.

Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay - (this was 4 years ago)

Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... propaganda

Really? The 13 million odd Sunni Syrians want their say in the countries future.

That is what is going to happen and if a QATARI pipeline then so be it. The days where the Alawites exclusively control Syria are over!

Ass ad's position is untenable. Pootin knows it too.

No, you are missing the point.

The point is Assad refused the Qatari pipeline first and then there was a 'civil war'. The civil war was engineered as a result and you have become a casualty of western distortions and propaganda about the situation.

You dont want to understand that the coalitions involvement in Syria is illegal and goes against the UN charter.

Russia is the only foreign country that has legitimacy regarding the situation in Syria.

Sorry, but the Syrians started their Revolutionary Spring first for a more open a free Government and Assad started the Civil War by killing peaceful demonstrators on the streets.

Again, legitimacy is pure semantics in this case because the Coalition has a strong moral argument and defacto legality as per the wishes of other groups and minorities in Syria.

To say otherwise ignores the legitimacy and rights of millions of Syrians who want change. But you don't have any issue with ignoring the humanitarian rights of millions of Sunnis now do you? Not to mention other minorities like Kurds, Assyrians, Yazidi and Turkmen.