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[GreekIslandGirl]

Kikapu:

................... and the US congress will do likewise and say NO to Obama and if that wasn't bad enough, the UN inspectors will give their findings soon also which will not help Obama nor Cameron.

I think that the Zionist influence on the Senate is so strong that the vote will be ‘YES’. Even if it is a no vote Obama it is suggested that, as The Commander-in-Chief he has the authority to take some action irrespective of the result.
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Kikapu:

Since Obama laid down the "Red Line" warning to Syria should any chemical weapons should be used, has very cleverly managed to save face today by first agreeing to launch a military strike in Syria at any time, then stating he wants the congress to approve it, which the congress will NOT approve it, therefore Obama gets off the hook.

I think they will approve it. Congress is dominated by Israeli (Zionist) interest groups such as AIPAC and the senators will vote accordingly as dictated by these very influential and powerful interest groups. This threat of attacking Syria has nothing to do with humanitarian intervention or the national security of the USA or its interests. This is exclusively for the protection of Israel because, like Iran, Syria is a threat to Israel in their relentless ME land grab.
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Kikapu:

The so called "Syrian Free Army" supported by Israel hating countries can hardly be in Israel’s interest to have Assad removed or even punished by the AIPAC controlled US congress. What would the Americans gain by sending few cruise missiles into Syria, which might by chance swing the advantage on the ground to the rebels, who most probably hate Israel more than the countries supporting the rebels, like Turkey?

I am afraid your vision is far too narrow ..........
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Robin Hood, what happened to your predictions, a man with wide vision, unlike me who is of accused having very narrow vision?

Can we now say that Putin saved Obama's bacon and his presidency by getting him out of a corner he had foolishly painted himself into with this "Red Line" on chemical usage in Syria? Yes we can! If for one minute you all think Kerry made a slip of the tongue at a press conference about Assad giving up on his CW to avert airstrikes will be also naive. That was a plant question to Kerry from a reporter on how Syria can avert US attacks, a proposal already agreed to by Obama and Putin at the G-20 meeting a little earlier, because Congress was not about to give Obama the Green Light, but instead embarrass the president with a NO vote. Obama would have not bombed Syria on his own without the backing of congress. He is not that stupid to have done so.

In the meantime, the rebels and Erdogan have been snookered, because any future chemical use in Syria will be blamed on the rebels, because Assad will claim that ALL his CW are under UN control, and since Assad did not use the CW recently, he has no use for them anyway, so why not get rid of them by taking the "high road" in the eyes of the International community. All the while, Erdogan who was ready to go to war by brining up the rear of the big boys, with all his bravado, is once again silent, because he has no convictions as I have stated many times, but only an opportunist. A man without credibility really, along with Davutoglu.

Regardless, a 'slip of the tongue' or a 'cry for help', the USA lost the battle to invade Syria. Their only excuse was used as the petard by which to hoist them and Russia has checkmated them .... again .... for now.

Putin is the most deserving candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize (if too soon for the upcoming ones, then next year for sure).

[Kikapu]

Regardless, a 'slip of the tongue' or a 'cry for help', the USA lost the battle to invade Syria. Their only excuse was used as the petard by which to hoist them and Russia has checkmated them .... again .... for now.

Putin is the most deserving candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize (if too soon for the upcoming ones, then next year for sure).

Agreed!

[supporttheunderdog]

Putin is a corrupt individual who is acting only out of self interest in the Great Game where he is trying to reassert Russian Influence (and the Russian goal was in imperial days the control of Istanbul/Constantinople). He probably personally benefits in cash terms out the sale of Russian weaponry to Assad, and where removal of Assad is not in his interests.

FYI I do not approve of the US Plan to attack Syria whether for the reasons stated, ie alleged Syrian use of chemical WMD, OR OTHERWISE. I do not relish a major Middle Eastern war that could follow if Iran were to be dragged in, which is possible if the US and UK was to bomb Syria. I was pleased when parliament voted no.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Regardless, a 'slip of the tongue' or a 'cry for help', the USA lost the battle to invade Syria. Their only excuse was used as the petard by which to hoist them and Russia has checkmated them .... again .... for now.

Putin is the most deserving candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize (if too soon for the upcoming ones, then next year for sure).

Agreed!

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[Schnauzer]

In short words (for which I am quite famous)......... 'Obama' has had his 'Black Arse' kicked once again.

[Paphitis]

I think Obama achieved his objectives without war.

At the end of the day, Assads chemical weapons are history thanks to a Russia inspired agreement.

If Obama did not threaten military action then this victory would not have been achieved. In the end, the world is just a little safer.

From Assads end, this agreement was also a stroke of genius. If the rebels have chemical weapons, they will not be able to use them. If they do, then the spotlight will be on them.

Sounds like a good result all round!

[Schnauzer]

I think Obama achieved his objectives without war.

At the end of the day, Assads chemical weapons are history thanks to a Russia inspired agreement.

If Obama did not threaten military action then this victory would not have been achieved. In the end, the world is just a little safer.

From Assads end, this agreement was also a stroke of genius. If the rebels have chemical weapons, they will not be able to use them. If they do, then the spotlight will be on them.

Sounds like a good result all round!

A perfect example of the gullibility of the malleable masses, such 'Blind Analysis' ensures the safety of 'Politicians for as long as:-

"The general voting public are as knowledgeable of 'Politics' as my arse is of Snipe-shooting"........(Quote by Sir B.O'Reilly).

[Paphitis]

I think Obama achieved his objectives without war.

At the end of the day, Assads chemical weapons are history thanks to a Russia inspired agreement.

If Obama did not threaten military action then this victory would not have been achieved. In the end, the world is just a little safer.

From Assads end, this agreement was also a stroke of genius. If the rebels have chemical weapons, they will not be able to use them. If they do, then the spotlight will be on them.

Sounds like a good result all round!

A perfect example of the gullibility of the malleable masses, such 'Blind Analysis' ensures the safety of 'Politicians for as long as:-

"The general voting public are as knowledgeable of 'Politics' as my arse is of Snipe-shooting"........(Quote by Sir B.O'Reilly).

Obama is in his second and final Presidential Term. He can never be re-elected.

At the end of the day, tonnes of CW will eventually be destroyed, and Obama is in a position to claim some credit.

Assad can also claim some credit for agreeing to such an outcome which is a major step forward. It's a shame you can't recognise this for what it is.

It seems you would prefer Assad kept his arsenal just so that he can get one up on the Yanks and their supporting allies. Problem is, the US would have attacked. You appear disappointed!

[Schnauzer]

It seems you would prefer Assad kept his arsenal just so that he can get one up on the Yanks and their supporting allies. Problem is, the US would have attacked. You appear disappointed!

My preference would be that ALL military AND expansionist objectives in the 'Middle East' should cease forthwith.

I have seen too much death and destruction (perpetrated by the US and others) to register disappointment that there should be more, I cannot understand how you can assume that I would propose any escalation to the violence already existing in the 'Middle East'.

I do NOT believe that there will be a mass destruction of 'C' or 'B' weapons, like everything else within 'Military' and 'Political' circles, that information which is available to the general public (particularly in matters such as these), is ALWAYS designed to mislead and there are already signs that vast amounts of 'C' and 'B' weapons are being transported to other locations, conveniently prior to any inspections BUT, indicative of the fact that the crisis is 'Over' and all the 'Players' may extricate themselves from a shameful scenario.

THAT is how it is done, THAT is how it HAS been done, the public are suitably 'Blinkered' yet again.

[Paphitis]

It seems you would prefer Assad kept his arsenal just so that he can get one up on the Yanks and their supporting allies. Problem is, the US would have attacked. You appear disappointed!

My preference would be that ALL military AND expansionist objectives in the 'Middle East' should cease forthwith.

I have seen too much death and destruction (perpetrated by the US and others) to register disappointment that there should be more, I cannot understand how you can assume that I would propose any escalation to the violence already existing in the 'Middle East'.

I do NOT believe that there will be a mass destruction of 'C' or 'B' weapons, like everything else within 'Military' and 'Political' circles, that information which is available to the general public (particularly in matters such as these), is ALWAYS designed to mislead and there are already signs that vast amounts of 'C' and 'B' weapons are being transported to other locations, conveniently prior to any inspections BUT, indicative of the fact that the crisis is 'Over' and all the 'Players' may extricate themselves from a shameful scenario.

THAT is how it is done, THAT is how it HAS been done, the public are suitably 'Blinkered' yet again.

If the objective was regime change then the US would not accept the Russian Proposals.

If what you say is true, and Syria is concealing some CW, then an attack is inevitable. I don't think Russia will accept this, and the US will find out eventually.

Syria has too much to lose by doing this. It is not as if it can use its CW stockpiles from this point on. I think Assad is on a winner to be honest.

Furthermore, don't underestimate the public because in this information age it is more a case of information overload and yet many do not arrive at the same conclusions you do because your viewpoint is one eyed anti American and frankly I have had enough of this nonsense. It is you that is blinkered.

Cyprus has its rightful place amongst the 'allues'. Never again can we be stupid enough to play Russian Roulette!