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[Paphitis]

According to many reports Putin is possibly one of the most corrupt men in the world/////

Too right!

The guy is seriously corrupt and lower than a cut snake! Former director of the KGB and is probably responsible for more murders and assassinations than anyone on the planet!

Oh shut the fuck up will ya...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_ ... Litvinenko

I don’t give a shit about some article you came up with.

It’s like you’ve got Pinochet, Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot in front of you in the form of the US, UK, and Israeli criminal regimes yet you want to go on about Castro!

Pathetic!

I never mentioned Castro!

I also made no comparison with Hitler, Pinochet or anyone else.

All I said is that he is a shady and shonky character, corrupt to the bone and responsible for many murders/assassinations.

Furthermore, we have had 39 years of Soviet/Russian Federation inaction in Cyprus despite the RoC prostituting itself to both Russia and Greece. They are suppose to be a Superpower!

[Get Real!]

Israel and AIPAC clash on Syria strike

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 50354.html

[kimon07]

Western strike force for Syria disperses.…………

DEBKAfile’s military sources report that the Western military armada built up opposite Syria in the past two weeks was breaking up as the US president’s resolve for military action faded under relentless pressure from Moscow.
The British and French ships headed through the Suez Canal for the Red Sea Wednesday, Sept. 11, and the American vessels pulled back from Syrian shores to waters between Crete and Cyprus.
Obama has therefore caved in on his original intention of keeping the war armada in place - as heat for Assad to comply with the Russian plan for the elimination of his chemical weapons.
Every reputable chemical and military expert has advised the US president that there is no way that Assad’s chemical arsenal can be located and destroyed without importing an army of monitors long term for the job, and this can’t be accomplished while a civil war is raging in the country. Even if it becomes feasible, it will take years.
Meanwhile, the Syrian army is not waiting for diplomacy to run its course and Thursday, resumed offensive operations in the south, targeting Deraa and advancing rapidly towards the Syrian-Jordanian-Israeli border intersection.
The rebels’ morale is in the pits out of a sense of betrayal by the Obama administration and their resistance to the Syrian army’s onslaught is half-hearted at best.
http://www.debka.com/article/23277/West ... eli-border

[kimon07]

Former No. 2 CIA leader Michael Morell on CBS about Syria:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50154907n
Syria’s Islamist Rebels Gaining Power
Michael Morell worries collapse of state will empower al Qaeda

BY: Bill Gertz

September 13, 2013 4:04 pm

Syria’s al Qaeda-linked rebels are gaining strength and garnering support from more secular opposition forces, a former deputy CIA director said…...

On Syria’s al Qaeda rebels, Morell identified two main groups: the Al Nusrah Front and Ahrar al-Sham as “the two most effective organizations on the battlefield.”

“They have a disproportionate influence on the battlefield to their size,” Morell said in an interview with “60 Minutes” on CBS.

“And because they’re so good at fighting the Syrians some of the moderate members of the opposition joined forces with them to fight the Syrians,” he said.
Morell warned that Syria’s civil war, which so far has claimed 100,000 lives, will produce one of two bad outcomes. Either “a strong, more brutal [Bashar al] Assad regime, or a rebel government influenced by al Qaeda.”

“I’m concerned because where we’re headed right now is toward, I fear, the breakup of the state of Syria,” Morell said. “Collapse of the central government sectarian warfare, opportunity for al Qaeda to have a safe haven in Syria that is not dissimilar to the safe haven that it once enjoyed in Afghanistan.”…………………………….

Asked if it would be better for both sides in the Syrian conflict to wage a costly war of attrition, Morell said he favored a diplomatic solution.
“The best outcome is a negotiated settlement, between the opposition and between the regime that allows for a political transition that keeps the institutions of the state intact,” Morell said.

“The reason that is important is because it’s going to take the institution of the Syrian military and the institutions of the Syrian security services to defeat al Qaeda when this is done,” he said. “And every day that goes by, those institutions are eroded.”

Morell said Assad currently believes he’s winning the conflict against the rebels and thus has no incentive to seek a diplomatic solution with opposition rebels.
The best solution is for the United States to balance arms and assistance to the opposition forces so that it provides pressure on the regime to negotiation, but also does not place the rebels in the position where they believe they do not need to negotiate, he said.

More:
http://freebeacon.com/former-cia-leader ... ing-power/

[kimon07]

Former No. 2 CIA leader Michael Morell on CBS about Syria:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50154907n
Syria’s Islamist Rebels Gaining Power
Michael Morell worries collapse of state will empower al Qaeda

BY: Bill Gertz

September 13, 2013 4:04 pm

............“The reason that is important is because it’s going to take the institution of the Syrian military and the institutions of the Syrian security services to defeat al Qaeda when this is done,” he said. “And every day that goes by, those institutions are eroded.”

......The best solution is for the United States to balance arms and assistance to the opposition forces so that it provides pressure on the regime to negotiation, but also does not place the rebels in the position where they believe they do not need to negotiate, he said.

More:
http://freebeacon.com/former-cia-leader ... ing-power/

My reading:

Let's support Al Qaeda to force Assad to hand over power to the Syrian opposition, but let's make sure that the Syrian military "institutions" remain intact in order to ....wage war against Al Qaeda as soon as the regime and the Syrian opposition come to an agreement. In other words, let's make sure to keep the war in Syria going, one way or another, for at least five more years after Assad is gone!!

We are in the hands of lunatics.

[kimon07]

Meanwhile in Syria:

Freedom Fighters:
(Very disturbing)
http://infognomonpolitics.blogspot.gr/2 ... _1326.html

[Kikapu]

Kikapu:

................... and the US congress will do likewise and say NO to Obama and if that wasn't bad enough, the UN inspectors will give their findings soon also which will not help Obama nor Cameron.

I think that the Zionist influence on the Senate is so strong that the vote will be ‘YES’. Even if it is a no vote Obama it is suggested that, as The Commander-in-Chief he has the authority to take some action irrespective of the result.
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Kikapu:

Since Obama laid down the "Red Line" warning to Syria should any chemical weapons should be used, has very cleverly managed to save face today by first agreeing to launch a military strike in Syria at any time, then stating he wants the congress to approve it, which the congress will NOT approve it, therefore Obama gets off the hook.

I think they will approve it. Congress is dominated by Israeli (Zionist) interest groups such as AIPAC and the senators will vote accordingly as dictated by these very influential and powerful interest groups. This threat of attacking Syria has nothing to do with humanitarian intervention or the national security of the USA or its interests. This is exclusively for the protection of Israel because, like Iran, Syria is a threat to Israel in their relentless ME land grab.
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Kikapu:

The so called "Syrian Free Army" supported by Israel hating countries can hardly be in Israel’s interest to have Assad removed or even punished by the AIPAC controlled US congress. What would the Americans gain by sending few cruise missiles into Syria, which might by chance swing the advantage on the ground to the rebels, who most probably hate Israel more than the countries supporting the rebels, like Turkey?

I am afraid your vision is far too narrow ..........
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Robin Hood, what happened to your predictions, a man with wide vision, unlike me who is of accused having very narrow vision?

Can we now say that Putin saved Obama's bacon and his presidency by getting him out of a corner he had foolishly painted himself into with this "Red Line" on chemical usage in Syria? Yes we can! If for one minute you all think Kerry made a slip of the tongue at a press conference about Assad giving up on his CW to avert airstrikes will be also naive. That was a plant question to Kerry from a reporter on how Syria can avert US attacks, a proposal already agreed to by Obama and Putin at the G-20 meeting a little earlier, because Congress was not about to give Obama the Green Light, but instead embarrass the president with a NO vote. Obama would have not bombed Syria on his own without the backing of congress. He is not that stupid to have done so.

In the meantime, the rebels and Erdogan have been snookered, because any future chemical use in Syria will be blamed on the rebels, because Assad will claim that ALL his CW are under UN control, and since Assad did not use the CW recently, he has no use for them anyway, so why not get rid of them by taking the "high road" in the eyes of the International community. All the while, Erdogan who was ready to go to war by brining up the rear of the big boys, with all his bravado, is once again silent, because he has no convictions as I have stated many times, but only an opportunist. A man without credibility really, along with Davutoglu.

[Paphitis]

Not just that, but now we can reject all the conspiracy theories because this deal proves that any potential US strike was about the Chemical Weapons and not regime change or destroying Syria and its military capability.

I am somewhat relieved because I just thought all the conspiracy hocus pocus stuff was just a bit over the top.

Looks like there will be no US strike because ASSAD, and Obama accepted the Russian proposals.

I guess it is evident that Robin Hood, Schnauzer, "g"IG, Yialooser, Kurupetos et al were all wrong.

Since the US just proved all you looneys wrong, I bet you all feel like regular dills! Now say sorry and move on!

There were no Zionists in the backrooms looking at bringing Syria to its knees. It was not about conquering Syria to build a pipeline to Turkey. The end game was not Iran. What else are you people going top come up with now?

What's the bet that the US will actually assist Assad to cling onto power at the rebels expense?

Schnauser, I guess some of us can look past our nosepapers, and we don't make it up as we go along.

[supporttheunderdog]

Significantly there are some reports seemingly mostly but not exclusively from non mainstream news media organisations that a number of individuals alleged to be linked to the rebels were allegedly caught in Turkey back in May with 2 Kg a substance alleged in some reports to be Sarin, though the Turkish government always denied what they had been found with was Sarin, while main rebel groups have denied any link to the individuals. This arrest was mentioned at the time by e.g the BBC.

Some reports are now out (but not widely broadcast) that in the past few days some arrested individuals (others have been released) have now been charged with seeking to procure the components of Sarin, but not possession of Sarin, and as far as I know the Turkish Government has not in fact revealed what substance was found.

If however the allegations are true that the rebels possessed Sarin back in May, then I think this causes the US great problems.

I would not discount the War with Iran conspiracy theories just yet.

[Paphitis]

Significantly there are some reports seemingly mostly but not exclusively from non mainstream news media organisations that a number of individuals alleged to be linked to the rebels were allegedly caught in Turkey back in May with 2 Kg a substance alleged in some reports to be Sarin, though the Turkish government always denied what they had been found with was Sarin, while main rebel groups have denied any link to the individuals. This arrest was mentioned at the time by e.g the BBC.

Some reports are now out (but not widely broadcast) that in the past few days some arrested individuals (others have been released) have now been charged with seeking to procure the components of Sarin, but not possession of Sarin, and as far as I know the Turkish Government has not in fact revealed what substance was found.

If however the allegations are true that the rebels possessed Sarin back in May, then I think this causes the US great problems.

I would not discount the War with Iran conspiracy theories just yet.

Why not? I do not believe an attack on Iran will happen anytime soon!

Absolute buckley's chance.