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[Pyrpolizer]

more bullshit.

What I said was Akinci in Aug 2019 set terms that he knew could not be accepted

is what you said. august 2019.

what are they i am still waiting.

You didn't answer my question:
I repeat:
Suppose the pseudo state found hydrocarbons a few miles out of Kyrenia.
Would they ever accept to share anything with the GCs? Answer honestly.


I already replied to the rest of your questions but you are playing dumb, keeping yourself busy in stirring your own shit.
It's his initial terms for absolute political equality, plus rotating presidency in which the GCs would have no say in how the TC president would be elected, plus cash from the hydrocarbons to the pseudo state before any solution, plus limited time negotiations in which they would have all the power to bring to a dead end. Also while initially he accepted a 3 party meeting with the UN SG, after returning from Ankara he wanted a 5 party meeting that would include the UK and Turkey and Greece. And all these just to sign half a page document to restart negotiations!

There's no doubt Akinci is a nice person, honest and does want a solution.
There's no doubt 60% of the TCs support him. The question is what power does he have to do anything?

Listen to this: He’s supposed to be the President of the "trnc". When asked why he allowed the upcoming illegal settlement of Varoshia against all UN resolutions he said : "But… I disagreed with them".
He disagreed with Ozersay and Tatar alright, but who are they? The first is a Minister and the other a PM. So who decides in the occupied, Akinci or the partitionist Ministers and PM who are totally under the control of Turkey? Let’s face it, the pseudo state is not run by Akinci. It’s run by Ankara!This is what’s going on in the occupied. The 40% partitionists and thieves + Ankara rule. Not Akinci, not Talat not anyone else. And I won’t be surprised if Ozersay becomes the next "president" in which case Turkey will have total control.

The Turkish plan is crystal clear, not only to me but to the vast majority of GCs:
Make everything possible to avoid any solution. Make it impossible for the GCs to take anything back. Get half of what they already have on exchange of NOTHING other than a Turkish bela.
This is the reason absolutely no GC has hopes for a solution anymore. Watch the Cyprob of this forum. Is anyone interested? Have you ever wondered why?


It’s time for you and the rest of those 60% TCs who want a solution to take your fate in your own hands and get rid of any Turkish dependence. Are you greedy beggars? Your GDP is now as much as that of the GCs.Why do you still keep getting financial packages from Turkey? Was it or was it not another 653 million Turkish Lira just a few days ago?
https://www.brtk.net/?english_posts=trn ... elations-7

[Lordo]

more bullshit.

What I said was Akinci in Aug 2019 set terms that he knew could not be accepted

is what you said. august 2019.

what are they i am still waiting.

You didn't answer my question:
I repeat:
Suppose the pseudo state found hydrocarbons a few miles out of Kyrenia.
Would they ever accept to share anything with the GCs? Answer honestly.


I already replied to the rest of your questions but you are playing dumb, keeping yourself busy in stirring your own shit.
It's his initial terms for absolute political equality, plus rotating presidency in which the GCs would have no say in how the TC president would be elected, plus cash from the hydrocarbons to the pseudo state before any solution, plus limited time negotiations in which they would have all the power to bring to a dead end. Also while initially he accepted a 3 party meeting with the UN SG, after returning from Ankara he wanted a 5 party meeting that would include the UK and Turkey and Greece. And all these just to sign half a page document to restart negotiations!

There's no doubt Akinci is a nice person, honest and does want a solution.
There's no doubt 60% of the TCs support him. The question is what power does he have to do anything?

Listen to this: He’s supposed to be the President of the "trnc". When asked why he allowed the upcoming illegal settlement of Varoshia against all UN resolutions he said : "But… I disagreed with them".
He disagreed with Ozersay and Tatar alright, but who are they? The first is a Minister and the other a PM. So who decides in the occupied, Akinci or the partitionist Ministers and PM who are totally under the control of Turkey? Let’s face it, the pseudo state is not run by Akinci. It’s run by Ankara!This is what’s going on in the occupied. The 40% partitionists and thieves + Ankara rule. Not Akinci, not Talat not anyone else. And I won’t be surprised if Ozersay becomes the next "president" in which case Turkey will have total control.

The Turkish plan is crystal clear, not only to me but to the vast majority of GCs:
Make everything possible to avoid any solution. Make it impossible for the GCs to take anything back. Get half of what they already have on exchange of NOTHING other than a Turkish bela.
This is the reason absolutely no GC has hopes for a solution anymore. Watch the Cyprob of this forum. Is anyone interested? Have you ever wondered why?


It’s time for you and the rest of those 60% TCs who want a solution to take your fate in your own hands and get rid of any Turkish dependence. Are you greedy beggars? Your GDP is now as much as that of the GCs.Why do you still keep getting financial packages from Turkey? Was it or was it not another 653 million Turkish Lira just a few days ago?
https://www.brtk.net/?english_posts=trn ... elations-7

now you are being shildish. do you suppose when they talk abour resources, they will only talk about the resources found in the so called gc waters? what kind of stupidity is that. the whole point of peace under bbf is we are one entity and all resouces found anywhere in cypriot waters will be shared at what ever percentage is agreed.
as to getting rid of dependence, that is even more stupidity, how do we get rid og terggish dependence with all the embargoes.

suddenly uou have turned into an elam supporter it seems.

realistically to remove terggish de[endence we want at least 5 years of help to tur it around if not 10 and you seem tothik that we can turn around the economic sitiation on a penny.

i am stil lwaiting though where are the unreasonable demands.

i guess you believe that asking to discuss
resources
rotating presidency
expecting a result orientated talks with a time limit

are all unreasonable?

did i miss anything?

[Lordo]

it seems the kerds have allowed the syrian army to take control of the border. well that should easily satisfy terggish demands to stop attacks on to her soil by the kerds. so at least the excuse for invading is no longer valid. it is now that we shall see that the game is depending on what happens next after the syrian troops arrive and what it is exactly they will do at the border.

[Maximus]

When was the last time the Kurds attacked Turkey on her soil?

The Syrian army is going to the border to try and repel the Turkish army from Syria. This is what they are saying. They are going to try and drive the Turks out with the Kurds.

The Turks are delusional, a day after the invasion, Erdogan was indicating a normalization of relations with Assad.

What do you think, that Erdogan is going to instruct the Turkish army to now withdraw and abandon its plans to create a buffer zone?

[Lordo]

all the time. pkk has set up bases both in iraq and syria and continously attack terggy. there was relative peace between them till one day one swine attacked and killed somebody and all hell broke loose. this was in early 2018, erdogan sent in the tanks and warplanes and helicopter gunships in to the south east terggy as well and bombing northern iraq and syria.

if the syrian ary can take control of the situation perhaps erdogan can also be persuaded to pull back and it would avert needless loss of life. the way it has worked out it is very confusing to understand what the strategy was by the americans or even if they actually had any strategy. they caused havoc and now left assad in charge instead as the kerds have stopped fighting him. gowd help them all.

[Maximus]

I dont know what you are talking about, this was a year ago.

Maybe you can post a link so we can get more info about the incident but why now, a year later?

Some quarters of the international community are referring to Turkeys actions as war crimes.

The possibility of sanctions are increasing.

[Lordo]

I dont know what you are talking about, this was a year ago.

Maybe you can post a link so we can get more info about the incident but why now, a year later?

Some quarters of the international community are referring to Turkeys actions as war crimes.

The possibility of sanctions are increasing.

it never stopped you ass. the war in the south east has been going on since on bothsides of the border. normally there would be bombings from the air and ground troops only on the terggish side of the border. it seems americans have held them back and now gave them the green light.

https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/09/22/pkk-planted-bomb-kills-1-civilian-in-southeast-turkeys-mardin

[Pyrpolizer]

now you are being shildish. do you suppose when they talk abour resources, they will only talk about the resources found in the so called gc waters? what kind of stupidity is that. the whole point of peace under bbf is we are one entity and all resouces found anywhere in cypriot waters will be shared at what ever percentage is agreed.
as to getting rid of dependence, that is even more stupidity, how do we get rid og terggish dependence with all the embargoes.

suddenly uou have turned into an elam supporter it seems.

realistically to remove terggish de[endence we want at least 5 years of help to tur it around if not 10 and you seem tothik that we can turn around the economic sitiation on a penny.

i am stil lwaiting though where are the unreasonable demands.

i guess you believe that asking to discuss
resources
rotating presidency
expecting a result orientated talks with a time limit

are all unreasonable?

did i miss anything?

Yes you missed everything including the fact that they are not asking to be discussed. They set them as terms before any negotiations may start .E.g. they want cash from the resources before any bbf is found.
Waste of time talking to you...

[Pyrpolizer]

all the time. pkk has set up bases both in iraq and syria and continously attack terggy. there was relative peace between them till one day one swine attacked and killed somebody and all hell broke loose. this was in early 2018, erdogan sent in the tanks and warplanes and helicopter gunships in to the south east terggy as well and bombing northern iraq and syria.

if the syrian ary can take control of the situation perhaps erdogan can also be persuaded to pull back and it would avert needless loss of life. the way it has worked out it is very confusing to understand what the strategy was by the americans or even if they actually had any strategy. they caused havoc and now left assad in charge instead as the kerds have stopped fighting him. gowd help them all.

Fyi the population on both sides of the border are Kurds. With red color the Kurds living in South east Turkey

[Lordo]

all the time. pkk has set up bases both in iraq and syria and continously attack terggy. there was relative peace between them till one day one swine attacked and killed somebody and all hell broke loose. this was in early 2018, erdogan sent in the tanks and warplanes and helicopter gunships in to the south east terggy as well and bombing northern iraq and syria.

if the syrian ary can take control of the situation perhaps erdogan can also be persuaded to pull back and it would avert needless loss of life. the way it has worked out it is very confusing to understand what the strategy was by the americans or even if they actually had any strategy. they caused havoc and now left assad in charge instead as the kerds have stopped fighting him. gowd help them all.

Fyi the population on both sides of the border are Kurds. With red color the Kurds living in South east Turkey

fyi - i knew that. the red in your map continues to iraq and even iran too. there must be at least 30 million kerds in the region and they have edward heath to thank for being left stateless.
i support every peoples' right to self determination no matter how small.

fyfi there is abour 3 million living in constantinoboli

ya dirla dirla da