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[Kikapu]

Kikapu:

Since Obama laid down the "Red Line" warning to Syria should any chemical weapons should be used, has very cleverly managed to save face today by first agreeing to launch a military strike in Syria at any time, then stating he wants the congress to approve it, which the congress will NOT approve it, therefore Obama gets off the hook.

I think they will approve it. Congress is dominated by Israeli (Zionist) interest groups such as AIPAC and the senators will vote accordingly as dictated by these very influential and powerful interest groups. This threat of attacking Syria has nothing to do with humanitarian intervention or the national security of the USA or its interests. This is exclusively for the protection of Israel because, like Iran, Syria is a threat to Israel in their relentless ME land grab.

The so called "Syrian Free Army" supported by Israel hating countries can hardly be in Israel’s interest to have Assad removed or even punished by the AIPAC controlled US congress. What would the Americans gain by sending few cruise missiles into Syria, which might by chance swing the advantage on the ground to the rebels, who most probably hate Israel more than the countries supporting the rebels, like Turkey? Knowing this, Obama is just paying lip service to everyone just so to get out of the jam he himself put on himself with the "Red Flag" on chemical weapons usage. Obama talked a lot of bravado yesterday to support his ill conceived "Red Flag" promises to teach Assad a lesson and then turned around and left the congress to bail him out by they voting down strike against Syria. Obama will then get off the hook and just claim, "Democracy at Work", which will piss off Erdogan big time for him to hate True Democracy more than he hates it now. He will tell the Turks next year, "you see what happens in a Democracy, the president can't even go to war without the approval of the congress/parliament, therefore you should give me all the power to make decisions on your behalf".

[Kikapu]

As I said many times, that Erdogan has no convictions, or else he would enter Syria today if he feels so strongly about it. As usual, he wants others to do the heavy lifting first and for him to try and win construction contracts to re-build Syria. What a woos. Even General Sisi of Eygpt took over that country with a name like that and Godfather Erdogan can't even dare to enter Syria with his huge military might on his own. Talk about Turkish military being nothing but a "Paper Tiger"!

Turkey expects coalition of willing action on Syria despite US delay
1 September 2013 /TODAY'S ZAMAN, ANKARA

Turkey, not concealing its regret over the US delay in approving military action in Syria, continues to call on the international community to take urgent steps on Syria without waiting for a UN Security Council (UNSC) decision and the UN chemical inspections team's final report.

Turkey, disappointed by the US move which will postpone any foreign intervention in Syria, has no other option than to wait for its allies to reach a decision as Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has stated: Turkey has decided to take common action with international actors.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-325166- ... delay.html

[kimon07]

As I said many times, that Erdogan has no convictions, or else he would enter Syria today if he feels so strongly about it. As usual, he wants others to do the heavy lifting first and for him to try and win construction contracts to re-build Syria. What a woos. Even General Sisi of Eygpt took over that country with a name like that and Godfather Erdogan can't even dare to enter Syria with his huge military might on his own. Talk about Turkish military being nothing but a "Paper Tiger"!

Turkey expects coalition of willing action on Syria despite US delay
1 September 2013 /TODAY'S ZAMAN, ANKARA

Turkey, disappointed by the US move which will postpone any foreign intervention in Syria, has no other option than....to take common action with international actors.
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-325166- ... delay.html

Yea, I think Silvester Stalone would be a good choice. Pity Johnn Wayne is not around any more.

[kimon07]

MOSSAD LIED; TROODOS IN CYPRUS DID NOT PICK UP ANYTHING IMPLICATING ASSAD

By Craig Murray

Saturday, August 31, 2013

The UK's listening post on Mount Troodos in Cyprus which did not pick up any messages implicating Assad in the gas attack.

Former UK ambassador Craig Murray tells us about The Troodos Conundrum

The UK has the best spy equipment in the region of Syria and yet it failed to pick up any evidence implicating Assad in the gas attack in Damascus.

Craig Murray writes:

"The GCHQ listening post on Mount Troodos in Cyprus monitors all radio, satellite and microwave traffic across the Middle East...

"Even almost all landline telephone communication in this region is routed through microwave links at some stage, picked up on Troodos...

"I should state that I have actually been inside all of this facility and been fully briefed on its operations and capabilities, while I was head of the FCO Cyprus Section in the early 1990s...

"It is therefore very strange, to say the least, that John Kerry claims to have access to communications intercepts of Syrian military and officials ... which intercepts were not available to the British Joint Intelligence Committee."

In other words, Israel's Mossad lied when it claimed that it had picked up Syrian military officials asking about the chemical attack.

More:
http://aangirfan.blogspot.gr/2013/08/mo ... d-not.html

[yialousa1971]

German Report: How Turkey Arms and Sends Wahhabi Jihadists into Syria

[kurupetos]

MOSSAD LIED; TROODOS IN CYPRUS DID NOT PICK UP ANYTHING IMPLICATING ASSAD

But Israel is closer to Syria than Cyprus, and I bet they have better spying equipment than the Brits.

[Robin Hood]

Kikapu:

The so called "Syrian Free Army" supported by Israel hating countries can hardly be in Israel’s interest to have Assad removed or even punished by the AIPAC controlled US congress. What would the Americans gain by sending few cruise missiles into Syria, which might by chance swing the advantage on the ground to the rebels, who most probably hate Israel more than the countries supporting the rebels, like Turkey?

I am afraid your vision is far too narrow ..........

Maybe the legal principal of ‘Cui Bono’ should be applied to the evidence the US/UK/Israel are so confident points the finger at Assad but, as yet, nobody has actually seen. It is clear to a blind man that Sarin or some similar nerve agent was used, so that is not news but, there seems little or no evidence as to who released it.

The reason Obama wants to nail Assad and his forces is to break down his ability to respond to the assault by the US/Saudi funded rebels. Assad appears to gaining the upper hand in the civil war in spite of US/UK/Saudi support for the rebels.

The Syrian standing army represents an existential threat to Israel. Like Iran they present a well equipped, competent, organised and trained military and as such a threat to Israel’s regional hegemony. The fact that once Assad’s military is degraded and the rebels overrun the country is of no consequence to Israel as they can cope with an Islamic Syria because of their military superiority. What they can’t tolerate is military forces that are organised and a match for the IDF in the conventional theatre. If the rebels take over, as we have seen in all the Arab states after their Arab spring, the warring factions will go on fighting between themselves and will present little or no threat to Israel.

The US purpose for this attack has nothing to do with their horror of this chemical incident but simply "Divide et impera-divide."? Cui Bono ...... Israel.

Next countries in line for humanitarian intervention once the US has Syria nailed down? Lebanon and then Iran! Let us hope that US intervention does nor spur Iran/Lebanon to take action to ’.. protect their national security’, by taking pre-emptive military action as their undeniable right to ‘self defence’ ..... or does that principle only apply to Israel?

A cornered animal is dangerous!

[kimon07]

MOSSAD LIED; TROODOS IN CYPRUS DID NOT PICK UP ANYTHING IMPLICATING ASSAD

But Israel is closer to Syria than Cyprus, and I bet they have better spying equipment than the Brits.

Not according to the article. Besides, the question in the article is how come Troodos did not intersept the tel. calls.

[Schnauzer]

Kikapu:

The so called "Syrian Free Army" supported by Israel hating countries can hardly be in Israel’s interest to have Assad removed or even punished by the AIPAC controlled US congress. What would the Americans gain by sending few cruise missiles into Syria, which might by chance swing the advantage on the ground to the rebels, who most probably hate Israel more than the countries supporting the rebels, like Turkey?

I am afraid your vision is far too narrow ..........

Maybe the legal principal of ‘Cui Bono’ should be applied to the evidence the US/UK/Israel are so confident points the finger at Assad but, as yet, nobody has actually seen. It is clear to a blind man that Sarin or some similar nerve agent was used, so that is not news but, there seems little or no evidence as to who released it.

The reason Obama wants to nail Assad and his forces is to break down his ability to respond to the assault by the US/Saudi funded rebels. Assad appears to gaining the upper hand in the civil war in spite of US/UK/Saudi support for the rebels.

The Syrian standing army represents an existential threat to Israel. Like Iran they present a well equipped, competent, organised and trained military and as such a threat to Israel’s regional hegemony. The fact that once Assad’s military is degraded and the rebels overrun the country is of no consequence to Israel as they can cope with an Islamic Syria because of their military superiority. What they can’t tolerate is military forces that are organised and a match for the IDF in the conventional theatre. If the rebels take over, as we have seen in all the Arab states after their Arab spring, the warring factions will go on fighting between themselves and will present little or no threat to Israel.

The US purpose for this attack has nothing to do with their horror of this chemical incident but simply "Divide et impera-divide."? Cui Bono ...... Israel.

Next countries in line for humanitarian intervention once the US has Syria nailed down? Lebanon and then Iran! Let us hope that US intervention does nor spur Iran/Lebanon to take action to ’.. protect their national security’, by taking pre-emptive military action as their undeniable right to ‘self defence’ ..... or does that principle only apply to Israel?

A cornered animal is dangerous!

Nice to observe someone with a bit of common sense who can see a little further than the end of his 'Nosepaper'.

[kimon07]

Kikapu:

The so called "Syrian Free Army" supported by Israel hating countries can hardly be in Israel’s interest to have Assad removed or even punished by the AIPAC controlled US congress. What would the Americans gain by sending few cruise missiles into Syria, which might by chance swing the advantage on the ground to the rebels, who most probably hate Israel more than the countries supporting the rebels, like Turkey?

I am afraid your vision is far too narrow ..........

Maybe the legal principal of ‘Cui Bono’ should be applied to the evidence the US/UK/Israel are so confident points the finger at Assad but, as yet, nobody has actually seen. It is clear to a blind man that Sarin or some similar nerve agent was used, so that is not news but, there seems little or no evidence as to who released it.

The reason Obama wants to nail Assad and his forces is to break down his ability to respond to the assault by the US/Saudi funded rebels. Assad appears to gaining the upper hand in the civil war in spite of US/UK/Saudi support for the rebels.

The Syrian standing army represents an existential threat to Israel. Like Iran they present a well equipped, competent, organised and trained military and as such a threat to Israel’s regional hegemony. The fact that once Assad’s military is degraded and the rebels overrun the country is of no consequence to Israel as they can cope with an Islamic Syria because of their military superiority. What they can’t tolerate is military forces that are organised and a match for the IDF in the conventional theatre. If the rebels take over, as we have seen in all the Arab states after their Arab spring, the warring factions will go on fighting between themselves and will present little or no threat to Israel........

Correct all the previous BUT.

If the jihadist rebels take over, Turkey will be the new force in the "boots" of the Syrian military. And the Kurdish entity which is Israel's hope and plan will be dead.