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[Robin Hood]

LR; ....... not that this has the slightest relationship to the OP .................................................................... ‘Question More’!

In my - quite long - experience, whenever you're in an awkward situation two things happen.

1. Your response is extensive and detailed (at least though this isn't another of those desperate descent into semantics exercises)

2. You completely avoid addressing the actual issue in a blitz of obfuscation:

NATO officers captured in Syria. Syria having no chemical weapons. The US "secretly" nuking Fallujah. The Israelis "secretly" nuking Syria. MH117 lured into being shot down by a Ukranian fighter. Israeli threats to nuke Iran. Etc, etc.

So, to reiterate:

Perhaps you can give an example of where you've questioned something that's come out of the Kremlin in the past 10 years?

Let me help you here. The answer is - no, you can't. Answer: I have to admit I do find it difficult to actually find what some one who is paranoid, seems to think I should find! I just find that what I work out by looking slightly further afield does not seem to support your opinion of events when you can't actually explain your favourite examples of aggression .....such events as Georgia and Crimea. That, because you simply never have. Answer: What do you want me to do change my view to suit yours? Don't hold your breath! You've completely echoed and defended absolutely everything that's originated from the place. Everything. Answer: Because I find their views more credible than those from The Integrity Initiative and people like the White Helmet 'hero's'! And that's "objectivity"??? Credibility? Answer; Is your view any more objective or credible?

The likes of RT and Sputnik are Russian State controlled. They follow the editorial line that they're ordered to. You will absolutely never find any criticism of Putin there, let alone the sort of stuff western leaders can routinely come in for from their national medias. That isn't of course because St Vladimir is beyond reproach. It would be long walk/short pier stuff. Answer: The paranoia shows through when you make stupid statements like that.

It's hard to believe you can't see the ironic absurdity of RT adopting the soundbite logo "Question More". Then again.


The bit about Brexit fits in with my (unpopular ) view. Although, I think the word "collapse" is perhaps going a bit far. Brexit is just one of an increasing amount of problems Brussels has. Not least, what's happening in Italy/Hungary/Poland. Merkel - a spent political force. Macron on the ropes (9000 troops on the streets to control what are effectively riots). A leader who's popularity is plummeting. Despite that, the unelected Commission and it's vassal instruments seem completely incapable of reform. In fact the total opposite. The breathtakingly arrogant (but typical) answer to all these problems is always the same. Apparently, what's needed is "More Europe".

Which, as this post began with, has nothing to do with the OP.

Obfuscation? You invented it! Still keeping the file on my transgressions from the true path I see. I have an unused 64Gb UHB memory stick I have never used, if you happen to run out of memory!

I note though, still no comment on The Integrity Initiative ........ Quote: ' 2. You completely avoid addressing the actual issue in a blitz of obfuscation.' .... it's that useful descriptive notation of yours again ..... hypocrisy! Face reality ..... you have the same irrational loathing for Putin/Assad as your side kick! You don't need explanation or evidence .... you are pre-programmed to accept what you are told without question.

..... but look at RT this evening. Putin was on the site of the gas explosion that has so far killed 24 people, 900m from Moscow within a few hours! How long did it take your hero Trump to get to the California fires? Friggin weeks .... and then he got the name of the place wrong.

[Londonrake]

Oh dear, there you go, losing it - yet again.

On the issue of keeping a record of your past pronouncements which you've raised:

Try to make light of it as much as you want; however, you've proven your propensity for off-forum activities in the past with respect to me - using other people of course. Also, you were clearly considering some sort of legal recourse (More off-forum. You have a real problem keeping things where they belong, don't you?) because you seemed to think you were being unfairly victimised. I took the trouble to seek out advice and have followed it since.

In the event of - the first thing that will come out will be your idiotic (criminal) knee jerk PM threat of violence (by other people of course). I've been led to believe that alone would end matters, there and then. Better to be safe though - ehh?

Once again. In 10 years you've never - once - expressed a single doubt or criticism of absolutely anything that's come out of the Kremlin or any actions by the Russian State. That speaks for itself I think. It blows your claim to objectivity out of the water. You're the antithesis. Your claim to balanced and impartial opinion will be LMAO material to anybody that's followed your posts, even over a relatively short time.

Paphitis's earlier post contained some strong adjectives about you. He was entirely correct though.

Where did you get the idea that Trump is a hero of mine? You're talking to the wrong poster I think.

So, I'm the paranoid one but ......................................you've got Vladimir Putin's phone number on your mobile? Maybe you could get him to do your third party dirty work. That would be right up your street.

[Londonrake]

You know RH. You really should be more grateful for people like Paphitis and me (there've been quite a few others over the years of course). If it weren't for us and our like you'd just be talking to yourself, or preaching to the converted. But any "discussion" involving a different opinion with you always ends up buried in the same ole acrimony, because you simply can't keep the lid on. Yet, you really don't seem to ever get it.

[Robin Hood]

Oh dear, there you go, losing it - yet again.

On the issue of keeping a record of your past pronouncements which you've raised:

Try to make light of it as much as you want; however, you've proven your propensity for off-forum activities in the past with respect to me - using other people of course. Also, you were clearly considering some sort of legal recourse (More off-forum. You have a real problem keeping things where they belong, don't you?) because you seemed to think you were being unfairly victimised. I took the trouble to seek out advice and have followed it since.

In the event of - the first thing that will come out will be your idiotic (criminal) knee jerk PM threat of violence (by other people of course). I've been led to believe that alone would end matters, there and then. Better to be safe though - ehh?

Once again. In 10 years you've never - once - expressed a single doubt or criticism of absolutely anything that's come out of the Kremlin or any actions by the Russian State. That speaks for itself I think. It blows your claim to objectivity out of the water. You're the antithesis. Your claim to balanced and impartial opinion will be LMAO material to anybody that's followed your posts, even over a relatively short time.

Paphitis's earlier post contained some strong adjectives about you. He was entirely correct though.

Where did you get the idea that Trump is a hero of mine? You're talking to the wrong poster I think.

So, I'm the paranoid one but ......................................you've got Vladimir Putin's phone number on your mobile? Maybe you could get him to do your third party dirty work. That would be right up your street.

What a load of self opinionated rubbish! As usual it is all your very adept way of distorting events to suit the vision you want others to believe! Do you ever remember your threats about people contacting you who threatened harm to me, my family and my home and wanted you to join them? They obviously regarded you as a fellow traveller. The posts (fact or fiction?) that put me on my guard in the first place? Do you remember the Tic-Toc, Tic-Toc countdown you added to many posts you made? No of course not. This is yet another of your countless posts, which have the sole purpos to attack me.

As a supporter on this forum of Paphitis and his incredibly anti- POOTIN, Butcher Assad and 'anythinghedisagreeswith ' lunatic opinions/prophesies, on any subject, you are most definitely in the minority ......... which says it all about you.

As Gavin Williams diplomatically put it to Putin "Just shut up and go away!"

You have your views ..... I have mine, lets leave it at that. If you want to exchange view in a civilised way and present a case for your argument then do so. The difference is that I normally read yours before I comment!

[Robin Hood]

Back to OP .............

More unintended consequences ..... but this time even more bad news for The United Sates of Israel and their coalition! Their 'proxies' seem to be changing sides?

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/01/the-war-on-syria-strengthened-the-anti-zionist-resistance.html

[Paphitis]

Absolutely delusional when you say that I am in the minority,

Robin Hood, you are in the minority. THAT IS A FACT!

The rest of us here are in the mainstream. Pootin isn’t liked, and that is due to his own doing. In fact, he isn’t even liked by the Russians themselves who do not condone his behaviour.

I don’t like him because he is a criminal. He murdered 45 Australian Citizens. That is 45 Australian Families affected, and not even a sorry.

The Americans are different to this totalitarian scum. They would have said sorry, and paid some compensation and we would have all moved on. This is the difference between the USA and your totalitarian scumbag! Clear as night from day. Pootin does not have any moral high ground over the Americans. He is a very evil man.

And don’t fuck around with me that it was some kind of NAZI Ukrainian false flag. There is no way in the world The Australian Government would tolerate a false flag by the Ukraine or anyone else against its own people, and young kids.And Australia participates in the biggest covert espionage network on the planet and they know what is up and what is down. And they were not the only country involved. In fact, its investigation team was shot at as they were driving to the crash site. There was a 60 minutes crew and bullet holes in their 4WDs and they were not fired by Ukrainians but Russian militia.

[Pyrpolizer]

Once again. In 10 years you've never - once - expressed a single doubt or criticism of absolutely anything that's come out of the Kremlin or any actions by the Russian State.

Have you during those 10 years ever expressed a single doubt or criticism of absolutely anything that's come out of London or any actions by the American/Israeli State/British/or any other Western Sate?
Has Paphitis - God Forbid ???

In any case the purpose of this post is to provoke Robin Hood to provide a direct answer to your question. I've seen his previous response but that was not to the point -was rather evidence that he does question more out of the western MSM. I know I have more chances to get a meaningful /convincing reply from him, rather than from you or Paphitis. However please feel free to try if you think I am wrong.

[Get Real!]

Once again. In 10 years you've never - once - expressed a single doubt or criticism of absolutely anything that's come out of the Kremlin or any actions by the Russian State.

Have you during those 10 years ever expressed...

Neither of which have been with us for 10 years… come to think of it, not even 5!

[Paphitis]

Once again. In 10 years you've never - once - expressed a single doubt or criticism of absolutely anything that's come out of the Kremlin or any actions by the Russian State.

Have you during those 10 years ever expressed a single doubt or criticism of absolutely anything that's come out of London or any actions by the American/Israeli State/British/or any other Western Sate?
Has Paphitis - God Forbid ???

In any case the purpose of this post is to provoke Robin Hood to provide a direct answer to your question. I've seen his previous response but that was not to the point -was rather evidence that he does question more out of the western MSM. I know I have more chances to get a meaningful /convincing reply from him, rather than from you or Paphitis. However please feel free to try if you think I am wrong.

Of course we have expressed doubt coming over our MSM. I do I that all the time, even on a daily basis.

But our MSM is different to propaganda outlets such as Russia Today and others. These are State mouthpieces, ours are NOT State mouthpieces. Our MSM is critical of our Governments all the time, their mouthpieces will never be critical of Pootin - unless you have a death wish that is. Are you aware, that there are dozens of Russians journalists who are missing now without trace? What is the difference between Pootin and Erdogan? Noting at all is the correct answer to this.

I was accused of having opinions outside of the mainstream. That isn’t true at all. My views are completely mainstream in the EU, Europe, North America, Asia, and Australia. You guys are not in the mainstream.

Pootin is one of the most hated figures in Australia. In fact, there are calls to ban his entry into Australia. There was outrage in letting him enter Australia for the G20. Calls that the man is a criminal. Why? Because Russian Militias were responsible for nthe murder of 45 Australian Citizens. But Australia did the right thing and let him visit Brisbane. Whilst he was there, the Russian Navy was in a stand-off with an Australian Defence Force that was virtually fully mobilised and on a war footing. He knew it too. There were Destroyers, Frigates, and our Aircraft were flying continuously jamming them. It was extremely dangerous, and the Australian Fleet was joined by an entire USN Battle Group of 30 Ships and an Aircraft Carrier. The Americans sent an entire Battle Group from Japan to assist us. They were taking the Russian provocations very seriously.

Look, we do not like him ok. And the propaganda from his mouthpieces that it was the Ukrainians Government that shot down MH17 in an insult to all our intelligence. We hate the prick, and don’t want him anywhere near us. He is a sociopathic criminal. We can never forgive him or have good relations with this criminal.

Once again, we Australians are not like Cypriots. Sorry.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

Of course we(????) have expressed doubt coming over our MSM. I do I that all the time, even on a daily basis.

WE ???? Do you have the other member of your ‘Crazy Theories and Prophecies Coalition’ , permission to include him as a fully paid up member?

But our MSM is different to propaganda outlets such as Russia Today and others. These are State mouthpieces, ours are NOT State mouthpieces. Our MSM is critical of our Governments all the time, their mouthpieces will never be critical of Pootin - unless you have a death wish that is

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Your MSM are the mouthpieces for western propaganda. Where do they get there information? ..... BellingCat, The white Helmets, ‘moderate’ terrorists, CIA, MI6, Mossadet al and of course, just exposed, Integrity Initiative, fully funded by the UK FCO. What happens after these events they ‘expose’, when it is possible for journalists to get in and interview civilians caught up in all this slaughter? It all turns out to be bullshit and the antithesis of the truth ..... in other words, propaganda for people like you to soak up without question.

Are you aware, that there are dozens of Russians journalists who are missing now without trace? What is the difference between Pootin and Erdogan? Noting at all is the correct answer to this.

I can find no information on dozens of missing journalists in Russia, well actually not one. Would you like to post your source .... or is that a secret? It is obvious you completely lack any objectivity as you automatically assume they are all murdered by The Russian State as opposed to Mafia, ex-KGB and political dissidents. The difference? Putin is a Russian Orthodox Christian and Erdogan is a Muslim, for a start.

I was accused of having opinions outside of the mainstream. That isn’t true at all. My views are completely mainstream in the EU, Europe, North America, Asia, and Australia. You guys are not in the mainstream.

Your views are those of a mouthpiece for the Wester US driven alliance propaganda. They are extremist, without any supporting explanations ..... and always wrong!

Pootin is one of the most hated figures in Australia. In fact, there are calls to ban his entry into Australia. There was outrage in letting him enter Australia for the G20. Calls that the man is a criminal. Why? Because Russian Militias were responsible for nthe murder of 45 Australian Citizens

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So far there is no evidence to support that accusation. All that has been decided is what happened, not who did it. One poster said on the day of the MH17 event and follows that view to this day, that the evidence was ‘conclusive’(sic) that Russia was responsible and the source for that conclusive assertion was John Kerry when he said that the US had irrefutable evidence! Have we ever seen that evidence? Well actually NO! Much of the ‘evidence’ provided by Ukraine was also exposed as false.

But Australia did the right thing and let him visit Brisbane. Whilst he was there, the Russian Navy was in a stand-off with an Australian Defence Force that was virtually fully mobilised and on a war footing. He knew it too. There were Destroyers, Frigates, and our Aircraft were flying continuously jamming them. It was extremely dangerous, and the Australian Fleet was joined by an entire USN Battle Group of 30 Ships and an Aircraft Carrier. The Americans sent an entire Battle Group from Japan to assist us. They were taking the Russian provocations very seriously.

Provocation? All that for one old Russian cruiser and its escorts in legal, pre-advised transit in International waters, many miles away from Australian territorial waters and travelling parallel to those waters? No threat to anyone. But you ‘Hero’s’ had to show your mighty power! What would you have done had they sailed right into YOUR territorial waters? Let them go with a load-hailer reprimand? But you and the other paranoid anti-Russian mouthpieces, accused Russia of aggression when they stopped Ukraine military vessels INSIDE THEIR territorial waters.

Look, we do not like him ok. And the propaganda from his mouthpieces that it was the Ukrainians Government that shot down MH17 in an insult to all our intelligence. We hate the prick, and don’t want him anywhere near us. He is a sociopathic criminal. We can never forgive him or have good relations with this criminal.

You don’t like him? I don’t think he goes a bundle on you lot either, he is just too much of a diplomat and World Leader to say just what he thinks of YOU.

YOU have no intelligence and prove it every time you post one of your ‘anti-Russian ...... make America great Again’ outbursts, all you do is confirm my opinion of you is fairly accurate. You condemn Russia on pure speculation but you can forgive the US for their proven false flag (Tonkin incident, ring a bell?) that killed how many Australian patriots in Vietnam? And of course the Saudi’s that were responsible for 3000 deaths on 9/11? Wasn’t it you that was spouting off about what a wonderful, civilised and intelligent people they were and wanted to go and live there ........ in a tent ..... in the desert ..... to watch the sunset. What a prick!

Once again, we Australians are not like Cypriots. Sorry.

Like me you are neither Australian or Cypriot, just like I am, in the real World, I am neither British or Cypriot.