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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Trump will be gone in 6 years at the most. This is the USA. They are a free and democratic country. People are free to express themselves politically, spiritually and culturally. This is not the case in Russia.

Your immaturity and naivety is about the only thing that has remained steady in the 10 years that I've known you. :?


Why so?

If you say what I have said is false, then be my guest and go and live in Russia and try and make a living there.

You will be back in Cyprus quicker than you can say Haloumi.

Furthermore, the USA is far more progressed in virtually every social indicator there is. Russia is not your saviour.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:17 pm

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Robin Hood wrote:Thank you for your ill-informed opinion but it is all true and verified by official information, he merely passes it on in his article.

Before throwing mud at well regarded journalist's who don't support your propaganda ........ check out:


You're welcome. Although, it isn't of course my opinion I'm merely "passing it on in my article".

I invite people to actually read your link - as I doubt many (if any) have. It's a frothing at the mouth, paranoid, anti-US rant. I can see why you like it. :wink: :lol: He also writes for Sputnik and RT. Well, there's a surprise! A paragon of objectivity then, just like your good self and the sites you regularly peddle, all of which are filled with people who write end-of-the-world anti-west stuff. Ne'er in them will you ever find even a hint of anything remotely critical of your favoured band of despots and tyrants. At least the man gets paid for his output though and isn't one of the useful idiot brigade.

I used to look into the authors of this sort of stuff as a matter of course but got bored with it. My favourite was the "Respected academic" that underpinned an article on Fallujah. Perhaps you will remember how you used it to support your "The US 'secretly' nuked Fallujah" post :lol: . When I dug a bit it turned out he'd actually been expelled by his own professional body for being a nutter. He was a rabid conspiracy-theorist who's favourite was hawking the idea the Japanese government were involved in a vast plot to secretly plant nuclear material around the country, in order to contaminate the population. Absolutely classic. :lol:

Propaganda?? Nahh. Now you've hurt my feelings. :cry: I just wanted to highlight the hypocrisy in your criticising Paphitis's introduction of Trump - somebody who has nothing at all to do with Syria of course, particularly recently, then going on about Ukraine, an area which is clearly fundamental to the region.

So, return of the Trollski then! Welcome back. But - have you fallen out/been banned already? Surely not? If so, it wouldn't have been your fault of course.

I'm not interested in your BBC article. Although, if they're finally getting their act together after the Internet Research Agency and GRU's activities then good on 'em. It's nothing to do with this thread on Syria though. Just like Trump. :wink:


No comment on the FCO funded propaganda outfit Integrity Initiative then? :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:18 am

...worth reading,

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Londonrake » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:36 am

Robin Hood wrote:No comment on the FCO funded propaganda outfit Integrity Initiative then? :roll:


Of course. It’s right over there - next to your comments on previous references to the Russian State’s Internet Research Agency Troll factory in St Petersburg.

They’ve helped you maintain your 100% (outside the box :lol: ) support of all Russian activities record. :wink:

Let’s not forget to thank the GRU for their extensive contribution to cyber warfare. A lot of their farcical efforts have been very entertaining. BTW, did you copy the general in charge of them died at the ripe old age of 62 recently? The ole Russian, post Skripal, purge in action? :shock: That doesn’t appear to be an appointment where you need to spend much time thinking about your pension.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:29 pm

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Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:No comment on the FCO funded propaganda outfit Integrity Initiative then? :roll:


Of course. It’s right over there - next to your comments on previous references to the Russian State’s Internet Research Agency Troll factory in St Petersburg.

They’ve helped you maintain your 100% (outside the box :lol: ) support of all Russian activities record. :wink:

Don't judge my 'information gathering by your standards ..... I like RT's motto = 'Question More' .... which I do!

Let’s not forget to thank the GRU for their extensive contribution to cyber warfare. A lot of their farcical efforts have been very entertaining. BTW, did you copy the general in charge of them died at the ripe old age of 62 recently? The ole Russian, post Skripal, purge in action? :shock: That doesn’t appear to be an appointment where you need to spend much time thinking about your pension.


Wow ..... you got the job with Integrity Initiative then? I didn't realise you had applied already ...... I though I was giving you the news your normal sources usually don't comment on as I had not heard of them myself until a week or so ago. There you are .... you have wrong footed me again 1 :oops: :cry:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Londonrake » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:54 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Don't judge my 'information gathering by your standards ..... I like RT's motto = 'Question More' .... which I do!


That's a very noble principle. And, I know from personal experience that you're a principled man with impeccable integrity.

Perhaps you can give an example of where you've questioned something that's come out of the Kremlin in the past 10 years? :?

Robin Hood wrote:Wow ..... you got the job with Integrity Initiative then? I didn't realise you had applied already ...... I though I was giving you the news your normal sources usually don't comment on as I had not heard of them myself until a week or so ago. There you are .... you have wrong footed me again 1 :oops: :cry:


You surprise me. That, coming from the very man who outed me as an employee of Hasbara some years ago. It seems I change agencies to keep up with your latest posting fad. :?

I'm not sure if I like your new dual forum situation. The quality of your insults aimed at me has definitely taken a dive with the timeshare. :(
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:06 pm

LR; ....... not that this has the slightest relationship to the OP ..........

That's a very noble principle. And, I know from personal experience that you're a principled man with impeccable integrity.

Well, at least for once you are a bit nearer an accurate description of me rather than the bitter, twisted, nut case and Machiavellian character you would have others believe me to be. However a bit OTT and your usual sarcasm is noted. :roll:

Perhaps you can give an example of where you've questioned something that's come out of the Kremlin in the past 10 years?


I have nothing else to do that requires my input so I will answer you........ not that you will read it as it will no doubt be TLDR.

Certainly! Everything I see/read/hear! I never blindly believe anything from any source without at least looking for another view of a given situation. I questioned:

The Maidan riots/US coup, MH17, Crimea, Georgia, Donbas/Luhansk, Skripal, the US election ‘Russian Influence’, Syrian gas/chemical attacks, Syrian/Russian war crimes, Putins $800bn fortune ........... you get the picture, any time the Western media starts the anti- Russian accusations that you soak up without question.

In each and every case there was little if any evidence that suggested that Russia/Putin was responsible or in some cases even involved, in fact more often the evidence says there is no case to answer and the likely hood is the opposite observation is more likely. Always plenty of accusations, but never evidence that would either stand up in a Courtroom or at least had some credible supporting information. Once I see the word ‘Regime’ to describe a government the flag is up that says ‘Danger of bias’ ...... do you know what, I have NEVER heard that description on RT, but is often used in the Western press and CNN, BBC, SKY etc ?

I watched EuroNews today and a very pleasant lady was discussing Avangard, which she clearly didn’t have a clue about, told the person she was interviewing that it was a worrying development “ ...... with Putin preparing to start a war with the West!” ! News to me, have you heard anything about it? My information says that Putin is doing everything he can to avoid a war, threatens nobody ....... but he is astute enough to prepare anyway simply driven by US aggressive moves right along the Russian border from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok. Apparently Putin is not alone, China and Iran both appear to have the same concept! :o

FYI: I have never had any contact with the Kremlin (although I admit I do have Putin’s telephone number in my mobile!!!), the FSB or the Russian Boy scouts but I do watch RT and read Sputnik .... the Daily Mail and the Cyprus Mail just like many thousands of others. I also follow Moon of Alabama and Vineyard of the Saker and have done for years and I find them both credible and their editorials usually turn out later to be correct.

I leave wild imaginary scenes to people like you and Paphitis ..... you both seem to thrive on them, no matter how improbable the stories are. Neither of you would soil your character by looking at alternative news sites because they so often disagree (most often with sound explanation or evidence you choose to ignore) with the very narrow anti-anything view you have of events in this World.

I did the same with the monetary system, Brexit, Jeremy Corbin , the EU and of course banking and by really going into the subjects in detail it is surprising just how much information there is ‘out there’ that you don’t find unless you go and look for it!

I don’t and never have, ever, claimed to be an expert on anything ..... but I consider I am better informed on selected subjects than many, including yourself ............. because I ‘Question More’!

FYI: RT – CrossTalk , this evening a very interesting exchange on Brexit looking at how it will affect the EU instead of concentrating on the doom-and-gloom predictions for the UK. It is within months, going to hurt them more than it will the UK! The prediction ...... the EU will eventually collapse just as the Soviet Union, and other totalitarian/controlling regimes collapsed and for the same reasons. :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:31 am

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:No comment on the FCO funded propaganda outfit Integrity Initiative then? :roll:


Of course. It’s right over there - next to your comments on previous references to the Russian State’s Internet Research Agency Troll factory in St Petersburg.

They’ve helped you maintain your 100% (outside the box :lol: ) support of all Russian activities record. :wink:

Let’s not forget to thank the GRU for their extensive contribution to cyber warfare. A lot of their farcical efforts have been very entertaining. BTW, did you copy the general in charge of them died at the ripe old age of 62 recently? The ole Russian, post Skripal, purge in action? :shock: That doesn’t appear to be an appointment where you need to spend much time thinking about your pension.


Watching Russia’s antics in relation to its GRU - Skripal Affair, TV Interviews on Russian TV, and of course the Kuznetsoff super Aircraft carrier have been a lot of fun indeed. :lol:

Not making fun of the victims of course, but Pootin really does know how to entertain the masses sometimes. :lol:

We need to make a movie about all this. It would be a box office slapstick comedy. But who would play Pootin? :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:52 am

Your fixation with Putin is emphatically sick. You should play Putin, I hope in 2019 you will manage to shake off your obsession and also learn to spell his name.
Have a happy new year .
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Londonrake » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:35 pm

Robin Hood wrote:LR; ....... not that this has the slightest relationship to the OP .................................................................... ‘Question More’!


In my - quite long - experience, whenever you're in an awkward situation two things happen.

1. Your response is extensive and detailed (at least though this isn't another of those desperate descent into semantics exercises)

2. You completely avoid addressing the actual issue in a blitz of obfuscation:

NATO officers captured in Syria. Syria having no chemical weapons. The US "secretly" nuking Fallujah. The Israelis "secretly" nuking Syria. MH117 lured into being shot down by a Ukranian fighter. Israeli threats to nuke Iran. Etc, etc.

So, to reiterate:

Londonrake wrote:Perhaps you can give an example of where you've questioned something that's come out of the Kremlin in the past 10 years? :?


Let me help you here. The answer is - no, you can't. That, because you simply never have. You've completely echoed and defended absolutely everything that's originated from the place. Everything. And that's "objectivity"??? :? Credibility?

The likes of RT and Sputnik are Russian State controlled. They follow the editorial line that they're ordered to. You will absolutely never find any criticism of Putin there, let alone the sort of stuff western leaders can routinely come in for from their national medias. That isn't of course because St Vladimir is beyond reproach. It would be long walk/short pier stuff.

It's hard to believe you can't see the ironic absurdity of RT adopting the soundbite logo "Question More". Then again. :?


The bit about Brexit fits in with my (unpopular :lol: ) view. Although, I think the word "collapse" is perhaps going a bit far. Brexit is just one of an increasing amount of problems Brussels has. Not least, what's happening in Italy/Hungary/Poland. Merkel - a spent political force. Macron on the ropes (9000 troops on the streets to control what are effectively riots). A leader who's popularity is plummeting. Despite that, the unelected Commission and it's vassal instruments seem completely incapable of reform. In fact the total opposite. The breathtakingly arrogant (but typical) answer to all these problems is always the same. Apparently, what's needed is "More Europe".

Which, as this post began with, has nothing to do with the OP. :oops:
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