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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:09 pm

I have a strong hunch guys, in this next decade (because this war with Syria might go on for years) the "TRNC" will cease to exist.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:38 am

Erdogan may be jumping on the bandwagon to look like his "ally" USA is working for his interests; but two remarks in a yahoonews article are pertinent in stating that it is Israel's security at the forefront of any action and not Turkey's!

Kerry said the "first and last" aim of any action the Obama administration will carry out in the Middle East was to "guarantee the security of Israel."


Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said any intervention in Syria should be aimed at ending Assad's rule - a goal that Obama has ruled out.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:17 am

Jews caught with their pants down trying to label yet another famous person a Jew:

"Nadal smashes away talk of Jewish roots"

http://www.timesofisrael.com/nadal-smas ... ish-roots/

That’s how they manufacture the “Jews are very clever” baloney… by attaching a Jewish label on anyone worthwhile! :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:05 am

You hate Jews and Americas don't you, Plonker!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:13 am

miltiades wrote:You hate Jews and Americas don't you, Plonker!

I don’t appreciate anyone who lies, distorts, fabricates, or otherwise deceives his way towards a goal.

And perhaps that’s why I never liked you either. :|
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kimon07 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:54 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Erdogan may be jumping on the bandwagon to look like his "ally" USA is working for his interests; but two remarks in a yahoonews article are pertinent in stating that it is Israel's security at the forefront of any action and not Turkey's!

Kerry said the "first and last" aim of any action the Obama administration will carry out in the Middle East was to "guarantee the security of Israel."


And how do the Israelis think their security will be "guaranteed?

Is a free Kurdistan, and a new Israeli ally, upon us?

As Syria’s Kurds carve out an autonomous region, their brethren in Iraq continue to wait for the right moment

By LAZAR BERMAN August 10, 2013, 8:43 pm40

In late July, the Kurdish Democratic Union Party in Syria, also known as the PYD, revealed its intention to declare some form of self-rule in majority Kurdish areas in northeastern Syria......

......While Turkey, Iraq, and other countries balk at indications of increased Kurdish self-rule, an independent Kurdish state in the Middle East would be a gift for Israel, many Kurdish and Israeli experts believe.

“Kurds are deeply sympathetic to Israel and an independent Kurdistan will be beneficial to Israel,” argued Kurdish journalist Ayub Nuri in July. “It will create a balance of power. Right now, Israel is one country against many. But with an independent Kurdish state, first of all Israel will have a genuine friend in the region for the first time, and second, Kurdistan will be like a buffer zone in the face of the Turkey, Iran and Iraq.”

Israeli and American interests at odds

When the move to independence does finally come, Turkey, Iran, and Iraq will be hostile to the development. Still, the American reaction is what counts. “I do not think that the three neighboring countries will launch a war if Washington supports it,” Bengio argued. “Washington’s stance is a key to all the others.”
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On this issue, Israeli interests run counter to the current American position. Ties between Israel and the Kurds run deep. A Mossad officer named Sagi Chori was sent to help his close friend, the late iconic Kurdish leader Mulla Mustafa Barzani, manage the Kurds’ battles against the Iraqi army in the 1960s. (The partnership has been well-documented in Kurdish and Israeli media.) And reports of Israel training Kurdish commandos continue to surface. Nationalist Kurds tend to see Israel as a role model for an independent Kurdistan, a small nation surrounded by enemies and bolstered by a strategic partnership with the United States.……………………………..

The new Kurdish country will likely open full diplomatic relations with Israel. “The Kurds are the only nation in the region that has not been filled with hatred toward Israel and America,” said Saadi. “The way Kurds see the world is different from Arabs….”

…….With few friends in the region, the Kurds will likely look to Israel to help them gain security and closer relations with the United States. As Arab governments in the Middle East totter and fall, and Islamists look to exploit the chaos, the alliance is one that both countries may find beneficial to pursue.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-a-free- ... y-upon-us/

and

UNITED WITH ISRAEL

Kurdish Students Call for Relations with Israel
By Rachel Avraham, staff writer for United with Israel
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A group of Kurdish students has called for there to be relations between Iraqi Kurdistan and the State of Israel.
Over 200 students at the University of Kurdistan took part in a debate on whether the Kurdish region in Northern Iraq should have relations with the State of Israel.
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Prof. Ofra Bengio of Tel Aviv University, who has conducted extensive research on the Kurds, told Yedioth Achronot, “This is not a common thing, not in Kurdistan and not anywhere,” adding that “from what I gathered from meeting Kurds from different regions of Kurdistan, there is some kind of sense of a shared fate between us and Kurds, at least in the sense that we are both minorities in a region not interested in our self-determination.”……………..

Nevertheless, should the Kurds, at least the ones of Iraq, Syria and Iran, be granted a state, they will not be a hostile one towards Israel.

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As Middle East specialist Dr. Harold Rhodes explained in the Jerusalem Post, “Shared challenges make Kurds and the Jewish state good potential allies. Like Jews, the Kurdish people have lived under foreign domination for millennia. Kurdish suffering under Arab and Iranian rule infuses them with a natural affinity for Jews and Israel. There are an estimated 35 to 45 million Kurds in the Middle East, many of whom have been secretly sympathetic to Israel for years and have even been labeled “Zionist agents” in Iraq, Syria and Iran. The addition of millions of potential Kurdish friends, for micro-sized Israel with a mere eight million inhabitants, could enhance the Jewish state’s security and regional position. While Jews were always considered politically and socially inferior in the Arab Middle East, Kurds generally did not discriminate against Jews, nor have they demonized Israel. In short, geography, history and destiny create natural affinities and interests between Kurds and Israelis.”

http://unitedwithisrael.org/kurdish-stu ... th-israel/

All I can say is that I pray the dreams of both the Kurds and Israel come true. For my own (Cypriot) reasons, of course!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:55 am

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:You hate Jews and Americas don't you, Plonker!

I don’t appreciate anyone who lies, distorts, fabricates, or otherwise deceives his way towards a goal.

And perhaps that’s why I never liked you either. :|

That describes to a T your self!
You must be the most anti American Anti Jewish idiot Plonker in the world.
Mate, I don't like you, you are false, pretends that cares about people !!!
Sometime back you expressed a wish that the earthquake who killed my mother should have killed my entire family.
It is Cypriots with you warped mentality that are the curse of Cyprus.
Plonker !
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kimon07 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:04 am

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:You hate Jews and Americas don't you, Plonker!

I don’t appreciate anyone who lies, distorts, fabricates, or otherwise deceives his way towards a goal.

And perhaps that’s why I never liked you either. :|

That describes to a T your self!
You must be the most anti American Anti Jewish idiot Plonker in the world.
Mate, I don't like you, you are false, pretends that cares about people !!!
Sometime back you expressed a wish that the earthquake who killed my mother should have killed my entire family.
It is Cypriots with you warped mentality that are the curse of Cyprus.
Plonker !


A Cypriot civil war as another side effect of the war in Syria? :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby DrCyprus » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:11 am

kimon07 wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:You hate Jews and Americas don't you, Plonker!

I don’t appreciate anyone who lies, distorts, fabricates, or otherwise deceives his way towards a goal.

And perhaps that’s why I never liked you either. :|

That describes to a T your self!
You must be the most anti American Anti Jewish idiot Plonker in the world.
Mate, I don't like you, you are false, pretends that cares about people !!!
Sometime back you expressed a wish that the earthquake who killed my mother should have killed my entire family.
It is Cypriots with you warped mentality that are the curse of Cyprus.
Plonker !


A Cypriot civil war as another side effect of the war in Syria? :lol:


The only reason we are still united is the Turkish threat. Once the threat is gone Cypriots will kill each other with pleasure.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kimon07 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:26 am

Well, ladies and gents, in previous lessons we saw wich is ONE of the reasons why Israel wants the Syrian regime to collapse and what it hopes to gain out oif that (A large Kurdish state).

Now, here comes the second SERIOUS reason why both the USA and Israel want to eliminate Assad's rule. After you are through reading this, I will tell you the third one:

The upcoming unfortunate war with Syria
Jon Carroll
Published 3:34 pm, Thursday, August 29, 2013

.......So our plan is to enter that battle on the losing side.

..........................

....We need protection, sure, but we don't need these proxy wars.

A war in Syria would be a proxy war, make no mistake. The issue is Iran's sway in the area. So that's what we'd be fighting about, preventing the spread of the Iranian hegemony. People forget that we've been at proxy war with Iran for a very long time. We even helped Saddam Hussein when he was gassing Iranians. It's all the same battle; only the cannon fodder changes.

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/car ... 772410.php

And the third one is:

Kick Russia out of the natural gas rich East Med. once and for all.
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