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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:18 pm

My views have been consistent in that the west should not have intervened and un the process extend the war with thousands killed.
It is far better to let dictators rule this part of the world where democracy as we know it in the west is not compatible with their mythological religion.
I have never expressed support for Assad other than saying that he is best suited to bring peace to Syria. Always believed that the west was making a big mistake in getting involved.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:30 pm

miltiades wrote:My views have been consistent in that the west should not have intervened and un the process extend the war with thousands killed.
It is far better to let dictators rule this part of the world where democracy as we know it in the west is not compatible with their mythological religion.
I have never expressed support for Assad other than saying that he is best suited to bring peace to Syria. Always believed that the west was making a big mistake in getting involved.


There is nothing consistent with your views.

You are now in bed with a tyrant by the name of Assad, and Hezbollah, and now you are about to see war between Israel and Iran.

The West has as much right to get involved in Syria as anyone. We do not need an invitation but were provided with an invitation by Islamic State. A challenge that could not be ignored.

They provided us with the invitation because according to Islamic Prophecy, the West will be destroyed in a final battle at Dabiq. So we went and it was Islamic State that was destroyed and Dabiq is now in Kurdish hands.

Assad will not bring peace to Syria. I have told you that many times before. I told you that Israel will never accept the Status Quo and might even invade. Oh well!

There is no peace in Syria. In fact, I believe ISIL will be back in Syria in about 2 years.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:33 pm

So why did you think that sometimes is better with dictators such as Assad to keep things peaceful ? Thats not consistent is it ?
Also you described Trump as an idiot then you fell in love with him.
Also, learn the meaning of the word " we "
Neither you nor anyone on this forum is involved in the decision making regarding Syria. When you say WE will never this or that it means that YOU are somewhat influential in decision making, you are not.
Grow up ans learn that Trump is spelled Tramb !!!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:38 pm

miltiades wrote:So why did you think that sometimes is better with dictators such as Assad to keep things peaceful ? Thats not consistent is it ?
Also you described Trump as an idiot then you fell in love with him.
Also, learn the meaning of the word " we "
Neither you nor anyone on this forum is involved in the decision making regarding Syria. When you say WE will never this or that it means that YOU are somewhat influential in decision making, you are not.
Grow up ans learn that Trump is spelled Tramb !!!


I do not believe that at all.

Assad was a brutal dictator. I can not in all consciousness support such criminality against humanity, or be complicit to any war crimes against the Syrian people.

Things change since then.

And yes I like Trump too. The reason is because he manages to piss off all the right people. And yes, I would vote for him. He is also proving to be a lot better than Obama. Also, it appears that Pootin regrets his actions and would now prefer Hillary as a known quantity. I think Trump is the worse type of US President for Russia.

people make changes all the time. It is much better to be flexible. It is also a good indication of learning.

back then, we were all talking out of ignorance. The USA for instance had no idea what was going on in Syria and yet it was criticized for being a protagonist.

Assad isn't the man that can keep any peace in Syria. he is hated by half the Syrian people.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:44 pm

If people change their views, as you have done, this means their views are inconsistent. Just accept it, you are inconsistent.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:49 pm

miltiades wrote:If people change their views, as you have done, this means their views are inconsistent. Just accept it, you are inconsistent.


The entire Coalition changed its stance not just me. The initial stance was to not get involved. that was a huge mistake. it caused a huge problem. Then the stance changed to enter into Syria which was a good move but they did too little and it was too late, but they defeated ISIL as they said they would. No one else fought ISIL like the Coalition did other than the Kurds and FSA.

It took them a good 3 years to work out what was going on and who to support in this proxy.

they just knew they didn't like Assad but didn't know what to do after post Assad until they came up with the idea of a United administration between Sunni and Shia.

My views are always consistent and I have never given any support to assad or hezbollah like you have done.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:00 pm

Going out live now on RT ..... direct from the Hague.

One after the other, many of them and they are ALL saying there was no chemical attack on the 7th April in Douma ..... doctors, nurses, Red Crescent and witnesses who were there at the time.

In short it is now becoming very clear that the event was staged for the White Helmet propaganda videos .... :x and The FUKUS fell for it and not for the first time either. Time and time again the same false stories provided by the White Helmets are used by the West to justify attacks on Syria.

Douma ‘attack’ witnesses speak at Russia-called OPCW briefing at The Hague

https://www.rt.com/news/425240-opcw-russia-syria-douma-witnesses


It was mentioned on BBC but not transmitted
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:27 am

Robin Hood wrote:Going out live now on RT ..... direct from the Hague. Now a 40 minute video recording.

One after the other, many of them and they are ALL saying there was no chemical attack on the 7th April in Douma ..... doctors, nurses, Red Crescent and witnesses who were there at the time.

In short it is now becoming very clear that the event was staged for the White Helmet propaganda videos .... :x and The FUKUS fell for it and not for the first time either. Time and time again the same false stories provided by the White Helmets are used by the West to justify attacks on Syria.

Douma ‘attack’ witnesses speak at Russia-called OPCW briefing at The Hague

https://www.rt.com/news/425240-opcw-russia-syria-douma-witnesses


It was mentioned on BBC but not transmitted


The UK, France and some other members of NATO refused to attend and called it Russian propaganda. Strange .... when the Western propaganda machine the White Helmets used them as extras in their gas attack video,they had great Western sympathy even though they were obviously being used in a pantomime. And it was all the evidence FUKUS needed. Now they get the opportunity to speak out .... the MSM's attitude changes completely ..... they are now Russian stooges being paid to say there was no gas attack.

Sit them down in real life to tell their story without the threats from the Jihadi's and the West is highly indignant. I have little doubt that the Russians have offered them a new home, a new life in Russia and a pension for life ..... just like MI6 supposedly did for Yuiia Skripal to 'protect' her from those awful Russian KGB killers but at least the Russians have allowed them to speak freely before they create a new identity, never to be seen again! :roll:

Poor old Yulia .... I doubt we will see her again .... or her Father ..... :x
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:51 am

You will be seeing and hearing from her and her dad soon.

They are in hiding right now and in a retreat and probably under very strict British protection. Attempts were actually made on their lives by a very sophisticated State Actor so you just don't go appearing on My Kitchen Rules or on Facebook.

The Americans have also been reported to grant asylum to the family. Whether that is true is a wait and see, but they could even be there right now.

The family has made a statement that they will be come out when they are ready and that for the time being they are still recovering from the chem poisoning and that they need their privacy and space.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/05/euro ... index.html
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:27 am

Paphitis wrote:You will be seeing and hearing from her and her dad soon.

I'm not so sure! If she were to open her mouth it could be very embarrassing for the UK government. Note .... I say could!

They are in hiding right now and in a retreat and probably under very strict British protection. Attempts were actually made on their lives by a very sophisticated State Actor so you just don't go appearing on My Kitchen Rules or on Facebook.

I find it difficult to believe that when she got her hands on a mobile she rang her cousin .... and yet now says she does not want to talk to her or anyone else. At least that is what 'her' statement the police read out said. Most Russian speakers say the way the statement was worded was not Russian but a sort of 'bureaucratease' English.

The Americans have also been reported to grant asylum to the family. Whether that is true is a wait and see, but they could even be there right now.

Not correct! The US says they have agreed for her and her father to enter the witness protection programme. Hence why I think we wont see either again. In essence she could just become some one else with no contact with her family and friends ever again. She could also be killed to make sure this secrecy was maintained, after all, who would know one way or the other?

The family has made a statement that they will be come out when they are ready and that for the time being they are still recovering from the chem poisoning and that they need their privacy and space.

There was the police statement but as far as I know ........ nobody in the family has heard from either except for the one rather hurried mobile call. When I see her on TV saying whatever she says live, I will accept they are alive. Until then........ :roll:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/05/euro ... index.html
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