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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:54 am

miltiades wrote:Im stating the obvious in that these nations can ONLY be governed, or rather ruled by Dictatorship. Check out their history, democracy has NEVER been the mode of governance. Most , such as Lybia have thrived under dictatorship. Syria on the whole enjoyed a relatively calm and peaceful time , that is untill the West decided to prop up the rebels including the Jihadists demanding the removal of one dictator but no fucking idea who would replace him. Let them be, let them sort their own affairs out, let the rest of the nations in the region contribute to an acceptable solution, not one desired by the West.
I repeat again, Im not losing sleep over who rules either Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan Pakistan or other such nations.


We are not talking about Democracy. You don't have to have Democracy to live with your Human Rights and freedom.

Fact is, there are millions of Syrians who are not even allowed to vote, or get a decent job just because they are not a Baathist Alevi or SHIA.

There are so many non Democratic Countries in the world, and yet many of those are not so bad and even a Westerner can live there in dignity and raise a family with no issue at all and lead a lifestyle similar to any Western Country.

We are just talking about the UN Charter, the rights of the individual, freedom of movement and association and just a bit of respect.

The West only decided to prop up some Rebels because we wanted to give them a fighting chance. We wanted a Unity Government in Syria. There is nothing wrong with that stance. However, we initially went to Syria just to fight ISIL. It was ISIL egging us on when they were beheading some US and UK citizens with blunt kitchen knives. So we got involved and we were fighting ISIL exclusively. We were however never going to cooperate with Assad. that is impossible for us, however our action indirectly helped him considerably. We were however the only ones combating ISIL. Assad and the Russians were not until very late in the piece. We were only assisting some Kurdish Groups, Free Syrian Army, Turkmen, Assyrian Groups and the Yazidi. Now Russia is helping the Free Syrian Army (do you see now what is going on).

Assad guarantees open warfare for a long time. It is very likely that there will never be peace in Syria. A Nation that is destroyed and fragmented forever and that is no one's fault but Assad's.

Assad bought the wrath of ISIL upon himself as did Iraq as well. The difference now between Iraq and Syria is that the Iraqi Government is now doing its very best to include the Sunnis and they are under our watchful eye. They know that if they do not do the right thing, Iraq is going to end up like Syria, and flaming pile of Rubble. Coalition saved their bacon (pardon the pun), and now they need to heed our warnings.

Personally, I'm not against Dictatorships. These kinds of Governments have a lot going for them. It's Democracy that is naturally a flawed and corrupt system. Human rights means a lot more than just casting your ballot though. It's about the kind of life you are allowed to live and what you are allowed to do. Whether you are allowed to freely worship, move around, work, gun ownership, open a business, raise a family, educate yourself and your children, freedom of speech etc etc. people have very basic needs such as clean water, education, food, shelter and some services. provide that to the people then a Dictatorship can thrive. They don't care if they can't cast a vote if they have all they need. I even advocated a Dictatorship for Greece as well, because it would likely be a far better Government for Greece than any of the elected administrations in its modern history. I would never advocate for a Dictatorship which would kill the Greek People, have another polytechneio, puts all its political opponents in jail, bans protests and free speech.

It is possible to have a Dictatorship and for the Dictatorship to be revered like a God or respected and not from any scare tactics but from its social works. The Government of UAE is a great example. As far as I am concerned, they are the best Government I have ever known in my life and that is saying something. Yes you heard me. A Sunni Muslim country as far as I'm concerned has the best Government as far as I can tell. May God bless them because these Royals are pretty damn cool.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:50 am

And you are a pretty damn fool.
The mother of democracy to be ruled by another Patakos, Papadopoulos, Ioannides,
The bastards who gave Turkey the thumbs up to invade Cyprus. You are a bloody fool, now shut up and go check Your ...troops.
What a Plonker !!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:29 am

Paphitis:
The Government of UAE is a great example. As far as I am concerned, they are the best Government I have ever known in my life and that is saying something. Yes you heard me. A Sunni Muslim country as far as I'm concerned has the best Government as far as I can tell. May God bless them because these Royals are pretty damn cool.


Yeah real groovy man ...... UAE sounds like a real cool and fun place to be :roll: .............. :lol: :lol:

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

Overview

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) is a federation of seven emirates led in practice by Abu Dhabi, the largest by area and richest in natural resources. Limited elections are held for a federal advisory body, but political parties are banned, and all executive, legislative, and judicial authority ultimately rests with the seven hereditary rulers. The civil liberties of both citizens and noncitizens, who make up an overwhelming majority of the population, are subject to significant restrictions.

Quotes from the report ..........

• The government of the UAE continued to suppress dissent in 2016, restricting the use of social media and utilizing an expansive antiterrorism law that criminalizes criticism of the regime. The authorities remained especially focused on activists with real or suspected ties to Islamist political groups, which—like all political parties—are banned even if they do not espouse violence.

• The judiciary is not independent, with court rulings subject to review by the political leadership. The legal system is divided into Sharia (Islamic law) courts, which address family and criminal matters, and secular courts, which cover civil law. Sharia courts sometimes impose flogging sentences for drug use, prostitution, and adultery.

• While the federal Interior Ministry oversees police forces, each emirate’s force enjoys considerable autonomy. Arbitrary arrests and detention have been reported, particularly of foreign residents. Authorities have been criticized by international human rights organizations for failure to investigate allegations of torture and mistreatment in custody.

• Discrimination against noncitizens and foreign workers is common.

• The constitution does not address gender equality. Muslim women are forbidden to marry non-Muslims and receive smaller inheritances than men. No laws protect against spousal rape, and men are permitted to physically discipline their wives.

• Foreign workers are often subjected to harsh working conditions, physical abuse, and withholding of passports with little to no access to legal recourse.

For the rest of the benefits available to all in Paradise ..........

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom ... b-emirates



So when are you leaving for paradise General WeWe? :roll: I am sure you wife and family will just absolutely love it there. :roll: Actually ..... before you buy the tickets and the tent ..... it might be a good idea to ask them how they feel? I somehow think they will be somewhat less than enthusiastic! :roll:

What a Plonker ..... just about sums you up! :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:46 am

miltiades wrote:And you are a pretty damn fool.
The mother of democracy to be ruled by another Patakos, Papadopoulos, Ioannides,
The bastards who gave Turkey the thumbs up to invade Cyprus. You are a bloody fool, now shut up and go check Your ...troops.
What a Plonker !!


You are a friggin idiot!

There are people in Greece which will tell you tat these Generals were also responsible for great public works. They also got rid of the Monarch in Greece which Greeks supported.

Metaxas is probably the Dictator which wrote Greece most glorious pages in history.

You think it is abhorrent for Greeks to be under a Dictator yet you also say that it is the best situation for Syrians and Arabs in general.

So tell me Einstein. What is the difference between a Greek and an Arab?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:49 am

Robin Hood wrote:
So when are you leaving for paradise General WeWe? :roll: I am sure you wife and family will just absolutely love it there. :roll: Actually ..... before you buy the tickets and the tent ..... it might be a good idea to ask them how they feel? I somehow think they will be somewhat less than enthusiastic! :roll:

What a Plonker ..... just about sums you up! :roll:


Wife and kids love it there. Thanks for asking.

Just show you how ignorant you are. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Western Families that live there and have children going to school there. It is a much better place to live than Cyprus as far as I am concerned, and oh, their Government (Royals) shits on the Cyprus Government. Just because the Cyprus Government is elected doesn't make them better. In fact, the opposite is generally true.

Every time you drive past the Palace, you just can't help to feel pride in their country and a sense of awe!

UAE is a most amazing country. All of it. Even the isolated Bedouin areas as well.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:06 am

Paphitis wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
So when are you leaving for paradise General WeWe? :roll: I am sure you wife and family will just absolutely love it there. :roll: Actually ..... before you buy the tickets and the tent ..... it might be a good idea to ask them how they feel? I somehow think they will be somewhat less than enthusiastic! :roll:

What a Plonker ..... just about sums you up! :roll:


Wife and kids love it there. Thanks for asking.

Just show you how ignorant you are. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Western Families that live there and have children going to school there. It is a much better place to live than Cyprus as far as I am concerned, and oh, their Government shits on the Cyprus Government.

Just like in Saudi and other repressed countries in the region ........ westerners live in compounds, very nice compounds with swimming pools , great houses and apartments and ex-pat schools and shops ..... even bars. The reality comes when you drive through the guarded gates and the security guards ..... gates to keep THEM, the poor locals and migrant workers, out. Outside their rules apply. But then you live in La La Land not the real world. :roll:

Every time you drive past the Palace, you just can't help to feel pride in their country and a sense of awe!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:07 am

UAE isn't a repressed country. You can do whatever you like there within reason. No one will give you a hard time.

It is a lot safer in UAE than it is in Limassol or Agia Napa. You can leave you house and car open.

No one lives behind guarded gates either. They live with the rest of the people. There are no compounds anywhere.

And none of their citizens are doing it tough because the Royals look after their subjects. The lowest common denominator are the Indian, and Bangladeshi Tourism workers, cleaners and taxi drivers. But they too earn about $2500 USD per month.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:12 am

" Hundreds of thousands"

Will that be 1 hundred 2 hundred 3 hundred thousand or more?
Mate you have allready well established your stupidity, no need to keep at it.
So you say there are hundreds of thousands of western families !!!

Maybe 5 hundred thousands ?
What a fucking idiot you turned out to be Genenal wewe.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:16 am

miltiades wrote:" Hundreds of thousands"

Will that be 1 hundred 2 hundred 3 hundred thousand or more?
Mate you have allready well established your stupidity, no need to keep at it.
So you say there are hundreds of thousands of western families !!!

Maybe 5 hundred thousands ?
What a fucking idiot you turned out to be Genenal wewe.


There are literally hundreds of thousands Westerners. There are about 150,000 Australians living in the UAE alone. Then all the Americans, Brits, French, Dutch, Italian and Canadians and there are so many.

There are 15,000 Greeks living in Abu Dhabi and they have even built their own Greek Orthodox Church and have become a vibrant community in their own right. Among them are about 2,000 Cypriots.

http://www.emiratesgreeks.com/info.php?op=details&id=30

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/greek-or ... i-1.697017

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That's the President of the UAE attending Christmas Mass at Saint Anthony Greek Orthodox Church in Abu Dhabi.

And btw, the Emirati people are absolutely gorgeous. I got a lot of time for them. definitely the nicest people I have ever met. Classy!

Most work in Shipping, or in Oil and Gas. Others for Emirate Airlines, Etihad. It is also a centre for Banking and Business and there are thousands of Westerners in this area as well. Not to mention all the Construction companies everywhere.

In my case, I was a contractor for 9 months in their Defence Industry setting up a private surveillance firm for Border Security on behalf of a British (Arms Dealer) Company I was working for.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:30 am

I thought you said you were an airline pilot or cabin steward!!!
So when ate you moving there mate ?
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