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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:42 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...funny, i thought it was an ironic spelling error; i see someone else thinks the title is fitting.


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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:40 am

I have always said that the real story usually takes a few days to come through. Most often from sources outside of the MSM. Apparently I'm not the only one.

An information piece from The Saker:

Syria SITREP: Approximate figures of the US airstrike in Syria & lessons learned.

I will keep this one short. You all have read all the nonsense about 100 to 600 Russians killed in the recent US air strike in Syria. According to these rumors (typical PSYOP stuff, by the way) the “hundreds” of Russians were private military contractors (PMCs). Well, for one thing, PMC rarely operated in the hundreds to begin with (5-20 people is much more common). But never mind that. Turns out that that official US and Russian sources actually more or less agree on the casualty figures. Here is the summary made by Cassad:

• 40 volunteers from local tribes
• 15 SAA fighters + Brigadier General
• 20 fighters of ” ISIS Hunters” group
• 5 Russian PMCs

Now that looks *a lot* more likely and more or less matches the official US “100” figure.

More ......
https://thesaker.is/syria-sitrep-approximate-figures-of-the-us-airstrike-in-syria-lessons-learned/


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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:07 am

What absolute nonsense. The West has helped build nations, and it has helped free nations and no we are not responsible for killing millions at all.

Yes Castro was the only one we couldn't get. I agree with you there, but Assad is a much easier proposition than Castro. Also, Castro did commit crimes against his own people, but that wasn't really our gripe. He was not even close to Assad who is probably only outdone by some of the bigger Nazi War Criminals at Nuremberg.

In addition, when the USA used Nuclear Weapons, it does so on behalf of all our (allies) names, especially the US and Australia which would have no doubt had to invade Japan to get a surrender after losing perhaps hundreds of thousands of additional troops. Less people were killed because of the use of Nuclear Weapons, literally. Sure it wasn't nice. War is never a nice thing but there is no difference between Hiroshima and the Allied Carpet bombing of Germany (esp Dresden) which claimed 80,000+ lives.

An allied invasion of Japan would have killed even more Japanese and the cost to us would also be astronomical and far worse than D Day and the invasion of Europe. The USA never started that war and as a matter of fact, they were hesitant to even join the war and only entered WW2 because of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour. They were quite happy to sit it out so the hysteria you spout just isn't true at all.

Either way, you need to know some very simple facts:

1) we are staying in Syria,
2) it is likely that our presence is to re-enforce and assist in the establishment of a Kurdish State.
3) Syria is now a divided and disjointed country which is falling apart.
4) there are no peace treaties with the combatants - hence there is no peace as you insinuated with the fall of Aleppo.

Eventually, coalition troops will arrive in Damascus in similar fashion as they occupied Baghdad.

You may think my claims are outrages, and that is you choice to do so. But the Coalition will not let this slide. It can't let it slide. Assad will pay for the bride and the only way he will not see the inside of a prison cell is by sucking on a cyanide pill.

Everyone had the opportunity for a peace deal a long time ago, for the Syrian people. Those days are long gone now.

I also warned you that the Coalition will not leave Syria. Coalition virtually controls a third of the country. It isn't leaving.

You can jump up and down all you like.

And as for you dislike of Social media. Well you are a Dinosaur and this world has no use for old dogs. But it isn't about the Selfies, or the Likes or the Tweets. Even the MSM are using these mediums because that is where most people get their news from now. Not only that, but they have opened up Journalism to the masses.

Even the resistance movements within Mosul, and Raqa were using the medium to disseminate information to the world, and such an enormous risk to their own lives. The Pen, was used as a sword. And it had an impact. You didn't see any of that because you are a narrow minded old fart with a foot in the grave.

People from within Mosul and Raqa would even post photos of buildings that were bombed by the Coalition as an assessment of damage. Even though Coalition had drones for that purpose and satellites.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:39 am

" 1. We are staying in Syria."
General wewe has stated his position folks.
We we are staying in Syria !!!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:13 pm

miltiades wrote:" 1. We are staying in Syria."
General wewe has stated his position folks.
We we are staying in Syria !!!


It's not my position arsehole.

Coalition has no choice. It can't abandon the Kurds for one, or leave Assad alone.

I told you this before but in your utter stupidity, you even said it was time for the Coalition to withdraw after Aleppo.

You will be waiting a very long time traitor. You may not see it in your lifetime that's for sure.

You forgot about the other 3 points.

2) it is likely that our presence is to re-enforce and assist in the establishment of a Kurdish State.
3) Syria is now a divided and disjointed country which is falling apart.
4) there are no peace treaties with the combatants - hence there is no peace as you insinuated with the fall of Aleppo.

You also forgot this:

Eventually, coalition troops will arrive in Damascus in similar fashion as they occupied Baghdad.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:34 pm

Wrong !! Assad will be in power for years to come. A bloody Dictator is what these counties always had and always will haveb
Frankly i am not that concerned about such countries, far more issues to be resolved right here in Cyprus, not the least the current provocative acts by Turkey.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:38 pm

miltiades wrote:Wrong !! Assad will be in power for years to come. A bloody Dictator is what these counties always had and always will haveb
Frankly i am not that concerned about such countries, far more issues to be resolved right here in Cyprus, not the least the current provocative acts by Turkey.


I don't think so. They always fall mate when we want them to fall.

Qaddafi, Hussein, Osama you name them.

We will just wait and it might take a few years.

In addition, I do not agree that these people only need a Dictator. But even so, they can have a Dictator that represents them all, not just the SHIA. This is why Assad is only a Leader of a Community. He is also a War Criminal. Assad has no authority. When the USA liberated Iraq, they included the SHIA in their equations. The Iranian Republican Guard was even present in the liberation of Mosul. The USA did not ignore the SHIA or exclude them.

You should be concerned. Russia, your bum buddy Pootin, is right behind Turkey and probably responsible for Turkey's brazen actions in stopping the drilling by ENI in the Cyprus EEZ. Why? because they don't want this gas to flow into Europe. This is Russia's War against EU and the West, not Turkey's. Erdgan is just a pawn. And Pootin is using Cyprus and Turkey for its end game.

make no mistake about it. If it advantages Pootin, Turkey will break the ceasefire and push further South.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:53 pm

Paphitis wrote:What absolute nonsense. The West has helped build nations, and it has helped free nations and no we are not responsible for killing millions at all.

Yes Castro was the only one we couldn't get. I agree with you there, but Assad is a much easier proposition than Castro. Also, Castro did commit crimes against his own people, but that wasn't really our gripe. He was not even close to Assad who is probably only outdone by some of the bigger Nazi War Criminals at Nuremberg.

In addition, when the USA used Nuclear Weapons, it does so on behalf of all our (allies) names, especially the US and Australia which would have no doubt had to invade Japan to get a surrender after losing perhaps hundreds of thousands of additional troops. Less people were killed because of the use of Nuclear Weapons, literally. Sure it wasn't nice. War is never a nice thing but there is no difference between Hiroshima and the Allied Carpet bombing of Germany (esp Dresden) which claimed 80,000+ lives.

An allied invasion of Japan would have killed even more Japanese and the cost to us would also be astronomical and far worse than D Day and the invasion of Europe. The USA never started that war and as a matter of fact, they were hesitant to even join the war and only entered WW2 because of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour. They were quite happy to sit it out so the hysteria you spout just isn't true at all.

Either way, you need to know some very simple facts:

1) we are staying in Syria,
2) it is likely that our presence is to re-enforce and assist in the establishment of a Kurdish State.
3) Syria is now a divided and disjointed country which is falling apart.
4) there are no peace treaties with the combatants - hence there is no peace as you insinuated with the fall of Aleppo.

Eventually, coalition troops will arrive in Damascus in similar fashion as they occupied Baghdad.

You may think my claims are outrages, and that is you choice to do so. But the Coalition will not let this slide. It can't let it slide. Assad will pay for the bride and the only way he will not see the inside of a prison cell is by sucking on a cyanide pill.

Everyone had the opportunity for a peace deal a long time ago, for the Syrian people. Those days are long gone now.

I also warned you that the Coalition will not leave Syria. Coalition virtually controls a third of the country. It isn't leaving.

You can jump up and down all you like.

And as for you dislike of Social media. Well you are a Dinosaur and this world has no use for old dogs. But it isn't about the Selfies, or the Likes or the Tweets. Even the MSM are using these mediums because that is where most people get their news from now. Not only that, but they have opened up Journalism to the masses.

Even the resistance movements within Mosul, and Raqa were using the medium to disseminate information to the world, and such an enormous risk to their own lives. The Pen, was used as a sword. And it had an impact. You didn't see any of that because you are a narrow minded old fart with a foot in the grave.

People from within Mosul and Raqa would even post photos of buildings that were bombed by the Coalition as an assessment of damage. Even though Coalition had drones for that purpose and satellites.


Ok ... we hear you General WeWe ..... more repeat rubbish! Not really worth an answer. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Back to the 'War against Syria'

It is lies like these and the fake news they generate that some people decide is sufficient evidence to go to war on or condemn someone for war crimes. Facts are an inconvenient obstacle. Then, when push-comes-to-shove, it quietly fizzles out and the charges never materialise. The same will happen with Assad ....... because all the evidence so far is from the opposition (Al-Qaeda/White Helmets/SOHR/FSA) and other anti-Assad factions and ALL the accusations are made without proper investigation or credible evidence.

This is what happened to this ‘war criminal’ ........... :roll:

Radovan Karadžić – charges were dropped due to insufficient evidence! That is the problem with the unsubstantiated proclamations against Assad ..... there is NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to support them!


Dutch Lies Over Putin’s ‘Aggression’ Expose NATO War Agenda - By Finian Cunningham

Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte was this week forced to bear a parliamentary vote of no confidence after his foreign minister finally came clean over a dangerous lie he has been telling for two years concerning Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Halbe Zijlstra quit in shame on Monday as the country’s foreign minister after admitting that a story he had peddled about personally hearing Putin plotting to create a “greater Russia” was false. That then forced premier Rutte to endure a “no confidence” motion from parliamentarians. In the end, Rutte survived the vote. If a majority had voted against his leadership, his coalition government may have collapsed.

Full article .......

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48801.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:55 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...funny, i thought it was an ironic spelling error; i see someone else thinks the title is fitting.


It was always a War IN Syria not a War Against Syria. It's a Civil War.

Don't pay any attention to the lunatic that calls himself Robin Hoodwinked! You are correct that the title is ironic.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:01 pm

Oh what a dumb arse this Robin Hoodwinked is.

Apparently the charges against Radovan Karadzic were dropped because of not enough evidence.

O dear, so I guess the 40 year sentence he got wasn't for Genocide in Srebrenica but for parking tickets. :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -srebenica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... fJSUrL5oqs

Then he talks about FAKE NEWS! :lol:

And calls this a War Against Syria. :lol:

What a fuckwit! :o

BTW, this is what awaits Assad. it's only a question of time. They all eventually get their day. We always get the War Crims. Even the Croatian ones. They all end up in the dock. :D
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