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[Paphitis]

Mate, why are YOU not protecting the Kurds from being bombarded by the Turks ? Who says that the coalition will stay in Syria for as long as it likes? Notice that I use coalition and not the persistent usage of WE this and WE that.You have NO SAY IN THE MATTER. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD.

We are protecting the Kurds from the Turks.

We are protecting them by being PRESENT. When we are PRESENT, the Turks can't attack them because there would be repercussions for them.

The repercussions are not the kind you would expect because i just doesn't work that way. The Coalition can NOT attack a NATO member because if it does then it undermines the alliance to the point of completely destroying it. NATO is far more important than anything. It is the holy grail for all of Europe and so important to peace in stability in all of Europe and Middle East.

But there are of course many other repercussions such as Arms Embargoes (all arms deals must be ratified by Congress), Cyprus, Oil Drilling, its EU accession talks and a lot more. It's all these behind the scenes things which hold Turkey accountable for its actions. Which is why Erdogan doesn't like the Coalition very much. He like Assad the criminal want us to leave so these 2 madmen criminals can wipe out the Kurds. but the Coalition isn't leaving.

Turkish and Coalition aircraft can not confront each other. It is against the NATO Articles and Treaty.

As far as the Assad Regime is concerned, then the Coalition's bombs do the talking whenever they get near to the Kurds. If they stay away, then they don't get bombed. it's as simple as that.

In addition, the Coalition DOES have a say in the matter. Coalition is WE since Australia is an active Coalition member. I never said I had a personal say. I'm not a world leader like Trump and am directly involved with a say. You are a stupid idiot for suggesting such a thing or your comprehension is that of a 5 year old.

You were all warned about this a long time ago. All parties had an opportunity for a peace treaty but chose to go for winner takes all. There is no such thing as winner takes all in a war like this. Everything has a price. It's time to pay for the bride.

[Robin Hood]

Fancy someone throwing accusations that I did not understand whilst they ignore this here:

It is a cultural-political community that has become conscious of its autonomy, unity, and particular interests.[3]

For instance, the Kurds, Turkmen, and Assyrians. But in particular the Kurds who are moving towards Statehood in their own right with our assistance and support.

And yes we do have rights to Syria as a legal combatant in a war. There is no peace treaty that we have signed and we will not be leaving and jeopardize the safety of an entire community of people. If you want to follow law, there is an actual legal definition attributed to the concept. Our presence actually prevents International law and breaches against the geneva Convention from being enacted by the Assad regime's forces. Therefore, no authority can ever condemn the Coalition at all. And no authority has.

There will be a Kurdistan, just like there is an Israel since 1948. Just watch this space. Assad is NOT in control of Northern Syria, The Kurds are and the Coalition provides them with Air Cover and covert ground support even.

No one has accused us of breaching International law. That is because you can't be in breach when your presence actually protects the existence of an entire race of people and nation.

You are always saying we have violated a law but you still do not provide any judgement against the coalition. There has never been a vote in the UN or even a debate. Therefore, you are just making stupid and unfounded allegations. And you should apologize.

We will remain in Syria. There is nothing anyone can do about it.

If Assad feels hard done by, then head to New York and move a resolution against the Coalition Nations and see if his allegations have legs. If he has balls, then move a UN Resolution. Russia doesn't do it because Pootin knows very well that Assad has no legs because the International community is ALWAYS going to support the Coalition to protect the YPG and Peshmerga.

Get Assad to go to New York. All Coalition Heads of State have no problems going to New York. Assad should join them.

As a coalition, we do not recognize Assad's authority. He is not the legitimate Government of the Kurds or Sunnis. We are at war with him. We will demolish his entire military if he oversteps the mark and attacks our northern militias and Russia will just watch it all unfold and won't lift a finger because they are not stupid.

You are incredibly myopic and not too bright with it. You spout all this rhetoric but it only applies in your concept when it suits your ends, the same concept but does not apply to other situations as I have previously described. This makes your attitude extremely hypocritical! You made the same wild statements before on this same thread about Syria and in general,with the exception of your prediction that YOU will remain in Syria no matter what the rest of the World thinks, you have turned out to be spectacularly WRONG.

YOU will eventually lose in Syria and the ME in general and with YOU will go the Zionists in Israel but ...... not by a military defeat but by an economic defeat when the rug is pulled on the once mighty US dollar and the corrupt and manipulative western dominated banking and financial systems finally collapse. Pity I probably won't be around to see it all happen.

[yialousa1971]

Syria shoots down Israeli F-16 in Israeli Airspace

Israel has carried out hundreds of attacks on Syria, normally firing from Israeli or Lebanese airspace into Syria and at times penetrating into Syria to do airstrikes such as in March of 2017. Israel attacked the Syrian army in Golan as recently as January this year and three days ago again attacked Damascus with missile fire.

“Having carried out over 100 attacks on Syria since 2011, Israel takes its control over its neighbors’ airspace for granted. That ended today with the downing of one of its F-16s by Syrian air defenses”-Max Blumenthal

Saturday Feb 10, Israel targeted what they claim is an Iranian control base in Syria, after this location set a drone in motion. The drone was bait as the Israeli eagerly go after soft targets to shoot down usually without resistance. Moments after the Israeli F-16 fighter jet took of it was hit by Syria’s Russian made S300 defense system and blown out of the sky. It is confirmed that at least one pilot ejected parachuted to safety. Israel claims both pilots escaped.

In retaliation Israel sent out a predator drone and that was also shot down. An Israeli combat helicopter eventually intercepted the “Iranian UAV” however not before Israel had already lost one of its own drones and an F16. Israel then launched an missile attack on the Syrian Army’s Republican Guard 104th Brigade base.

The Israeli Air Force fired several missiles towards the western countryside of Damascus, targeting the Al-Kiswah area near the Iranian base. According to a local journalist in Damascus, the Israeli missiles managed to score some direct hits, while others were intercepted by the Syrian Air Defense.

http://www.ancreport.com/report/syria-s ... -airspace/

[yialousa1971]

[Robin Hood]

I like him!

[Robin Hood]

Yialousa:

Syria shoots down Israeli F-16 in Israeli Airspace

Israel has carried out hundreds of attacks on Syria, normally firing from Israeli or Lebanese airspace into Syria and at times penetrating into Syria to do airstrikes such as in March of 2017. Israel attacked the Syrian army in Golan as recently as January this year and three days ago again attacked Damascus with missile fire.

“Having carried out over 100 attacks on Syria since 2011, Israel takes its control over its neighbors’ airspace for granted. That ended today with the downing of one of its F-16s by Syrian air defenses”-Max Blumenthal

Saturday Feb 10, Israel targeted what they claim is an Iranian control base in Syria, after this location set a drone in motion. The drone was bait as the Israeli eagerly go after soft targets to shoot down usually without resistance. Moments after the Israeli F-16 fighter jet took of it was hit by Syria’s Russian made S300 defense system and blown out of the sky. It is confirmed that at least one pilot ejected parachuted to safety. Israel claims both pilots escaped.

In retaliation Israel sent out a predator drone and that was also shot down. An Israeli combat helicopter eventually intercepted the “Iranian UAV” however not before Israel had already lost one of its own drones and an F16. Israel then launched an missile attack on the Syrian Army’s Republican Guard 104th Brigade base.

The Israeli Air Force fired several missiles towards the western countryside of Damascus, targeting the Al-Kiswah area near the Iranian base. According to a local journalist in Damascus, the Israeli missiles managed to score some direct hits, while others were intercepted by the Syrian Air Defense.

http://www.ancreport.com/report/syria-s ... -airspace/

Can you just imagine the weeping, wailing, indignation and no doubt retaliation, from the West if Russia decided to follow the Israeli example and do this to US bases and installations in Eastern Europe that Russia objects to as they represent an obvious threat to their western borders with Europe, which they decide they will no longer put up with?

How would the US feel if Russia used it’s air-power to protect their fellow Russian Ukraines in Donbas and Luhansk that are defending themselves from a murderous US backed regime that have murdered thousands of their own people? When all they want is self determination for their region of Ukraine!

Maybe THE US Coalition spokesman on the Forum would like to tell us or does he recognise the hypocrisy in his concepts when they are used against US interests?

[miltiades]

Mate, why are YOU not protecting the Kurds from being bombarded by the Turks ? Who says that the coalition will stay in Syria for as long as it likes? Notice that I use coalition and not the persistent usage of WE this and WE that.You have NO SAY IN THE MATTER. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD.

We are protecting the Kurds from the Turks.

We are protecting them by being PRESENT. When we are PRESENT, the Turks can't attack them because there would be repercussions for them.

The repercussions are not the kind you would expect because i just doesn't work that way. The Coalition can NOT attack a NATO member because if it does then it undermines the alliance to the point of completely destroying it. NATO is far more important than anything. It is the holy grail for all of Europe and so important to peace in stability in all of Europe and Middle East.

But there are of course many other repercussions such as Arms Embargoes (all arms deals must be ratified by Congress), Cyprus, Oil Drilling, its EU accession talks and a lot more. It's all these behind the scenes things which hold Turkey accountable for its actions. Which is why Erdogan doesn't like the Coalition very much. He like Assad the criminal want us to leave so these 2 madmen criminals can wipe out the Kurds. but the Coalition isn't leaving.

Turkish and Coalition aircraft can not confront each other. It is against the NATO Articles and Treaty.

As far as the Assad Regime is concerned, then the Coalition's bombs do the talking whenever they get near to the Kurds. If they stay away, then they don't get bombed. it's as simple as that.

In addition, the Coalition DOES have a say in the matter. Coalition is WE since Australia is an active Coalition member. I never said I had a personal say. I'm not a world leader like Trump and am directly involved with a say. You are a stupid idiot for suggesting such a thing or your comprehension is that of a 5 year old.

You were all warned about this a long time ago. All parties had an opportunity for a peace treaty but chose to go for winner takes all. There is no such thing as winner takes all in a war like this. Everything has a price. It's time to pay for the bride.

My friend is being attacked by a big bully but Im ....protecting him just by ...being there.
Grow up you wet behind the ears armchair general. You have consistently and predictably got the whole issue WRONG.
Assad is still there, the west has fucked badly and yoyr brains are totally fucked. General, I must confess yoy have some front !!

[Paphitis]

Mate, why are YOU not protecting the Kurds from being bombarded by the Turks ? Who says that the coalition will stay in Syria for as long as it likes? Notice that I use coalition and not the persistent usage of WE this and WE that.You have NO SAY IN THE MATTER. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD.

We are protecting the Kurds from the Turks.

We are protecting them by being PRESENT. When we are PRESENT, the Turks can't attack them because there would be repercussions for them.

The repercussions are not the kind you would expect because i just doesn't work that way. The Coalition can NOT attack a NATO member because if it does then it undermines the alliance to the point of completely destroying it. NATO is far more important than anything. It is the holy grail for all of Europe and so important to peace in stability in all of Europe and Middle East.

But there are of course many other repercussions such as Arms Embargoes (all arms deals must be ratified by Congress), Cyprus, Oil Drilling, its EU accession talks and a lot more. It's all these behind the scenes things which hold Turkey accountable for its actions. Which is why Erdogan doesn't like the Coalition very much. He like Assad the criminal want us to leave so these 2 madmen criminals can wipe out the Kurds. but the Coalition isn't leaving.

Turkish and Coalition aircraft can not confront each other. It is against the NATO Articles and Treaty.

As far as the Assad Regime is concerned, then the Coalition's bombs do the talking whenever they get near to the Kurds. If they stay away, then they don't get bombed. it's as simple as that.

In addition, the Coalition DOES have a say in the matter. Coalition is WE since Australia is an active Coalition member. I never said I had a personal say. I'm not a world leader like Trump and am directly involved with a say. You are a stupid idiot for suggesting such a thing or your comprehension is that of a 5 year old.

You were all warned about this a long time ago. All parties had an opportunity for a peace treaty but chose to go for winner takes all. There is no such thing as winner takes all in a war like this. Everything has a price. It's time to pay for the bride.

My friend is being attacked by a big bully but Im ....protecting him just by ...being there.
Grow up you wet behind the ears armchair general. You have consistently and predictably got the whole issue WRONG.
Assad is still there, the west has fucked badly and yoyr brains are totally fucked. General, I must confess yoy have some front !!

You are extremely daft. Yes our presence actually prevents any Turkish and Syrian Attacks.

In Turkey's case, our presence means that Turkey isn't able to attack the Kurds no matter the gusto Erdogan tries to portray at home. First of all, it is ILLEGAL for US weapons to be used against the Kurds in Syria. Any action by Turkey will be met with repercussions. There will not be any military action against Turkey as that is impossible. It would be a violation of Article 5. We are not able to attack them or shoot them down unless one of our aircraft is endangered. But the US can and will prevent the release of F-35 aircraft to Turkey. These are aircraft already paid for in the most part but the US Government can prevent their handover through Congress. In addition, there are many more things the Coalition can do through the European Union.

Coalition's presence is very effective. It is the only chance the Kurds have really.

Sometimes, this is all that is required especially in Turkey's case. Turkey will not send its military into a conflict on the opposing side of the Coalition as such a move would prove very counter-productive and dangerous for them. And that is what frustrates Erdogan even more. he is trying to say that the Kurds are terrorists but the Coalition has a different opinion.

In Syria's case, we are dealing with a far greater madman. not that Erdogan isn't mad himself because he sure is quite mad. But Assad has no problem sending his troops to death. And that is what happens. Their military get's demolished by our aircraft whenever they are involved in action against the YPG or Peshmerga.

[Paphitis]

Luckily, the Israeli Aircraft crashed in Northern Israel and the pilots ejected to safety. It was not shot down in Israeli Airspace at all.

Israel responded to an Iranian drone violating its airspace and responded by shooting it down, and launching many airstrikes on Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria. In other words, the Syrians and Iranians got fucked in the bum and all it cost was 1 F-16 aircraft.

It also means that Israel will escalate its operations. So good luck with that one. You gonna need it.

[Paphitis]

You are incredibly myopic and not too bright with it. You spout all this rhetoric but it only applies in your concept when it suits your ends, the same concept but does not apply to other situations as I have previously described. This makes your attitude extremely hypocritical! You made the same wild statements before on this same thread about Syria and in general,with the exception of your prediction that YOU will remain in Syria no matter what the rest of the World thinks, you have turned out to be spectacularly WRONG.

YOU will eventually lose in Syria and the ME in general and with YOU will go the Zionists in Israel but ...... not by a military defeat but by an economic defeat when the rug is pulled on the once mighty US dollar and the corrupt and manipulative western dominated banking and financial systems finally collapse. Pity I probably won't be around to see it all happen.

Oh dear, sounds like lots of empty words and threats.

Look, we are not going from Syria. Israel isn't going anywhere either.

And Israel's economy is strong. It has a lot of commercial activity and is a well regarded international player in many technologies such as Defence, Irrigation, Energy, Green Technology and so much more.

And once again, you have provided no evidence that the Coalition has violated International law.

Sounds like Crocodile Tears to me.