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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:53 am

You haven't a clue what your talking about mate. Irresponsible not to get involved in Syria ????

What has the West achieved by getting involved ? Fuck all, only prolonged this INTERNAL problem. Seriously mate your political analysis thus far has been nothing short of laughable.

I support the West, always have done but unlike you I will not support utter stupidities and total naivety.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:00 am

miltiades wrote:You haven't a clue what your talking about mate. Irresponsible not to get involved in Syria ????

What has the West achieved by getting involved ? Fuck all, only prolonged this INTERNAL problem. Seriously mate your political analysis thus far has been nothing short of laughable.

I support the West, always have done but unlike you I will not support utter stupidities and total naivety.


I think it is you who has no clue. You actually believe that peace and stability will return to Syria.

mate, you have no idea.

Peace and stability will return to Syria when hell freezes over.

DAESH is gaining power in Syria. Al Qaeda will also be empowered as they recruit thousands. Then there are many more militias on top of all that which will be supplied and funded by Gulf States.

And a war in Yemen which will only get worse. Plus more massacres like the one you saw in Aleppo but this time from the Saudi backed Government of Yemnen against SHIA.

But we have all seen that such atrocities are ok!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:04 am

Who do you think you are Milti?

You think this sectarian conflict going back centuries will just die off?

Only chance of that is with a political solution. get one over one side and that side will in turn be out for blood.

You think about it. The West and Russia are in no position to solve this militarily without killing thousands of people and ensuring future conflicts on a much grander scale including global terrorism.

This is the beginning. It's going to be a very bad year for the world.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:36 am

Paphitis wrote:Who do you think you are Milti?

You think this sectarian conflict going back centuries will just die off?

Only chance of that is with a political solution. get one over one side and that side will in turn be out for blood.

You think about it. The West and Russia are in no position to solve this militarily without killing thousands of people and ensuring future conflicts on a much grander scale including global terrorism.

This is the beginning. It's going to be a very bad year for the world.

A 70 year old who has been around a little longer than you have.
As you rightly say neither the west nor Russia can solve this problem, which concurs with I what I have always said. Stay out of Syria, let the Syrians sort it out.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:39 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Who do you think you are Milti?

You think this sectarian conflict going back centuries will just die off?

Only chance of that is with a political solution. get one over one side and that side will in turn be out for blood.

You think about it. The West and Russia are in no position to solve this militarily without killing thousands of people and ensuring future conflicts on a much grander scale including global terrorism.

This is the beginning. It's going to be a very bad year for the world.

A 70 year old who has been around a little longer than you have.
As you rightly say neither the west nor Russia can solve this problem, which concurs with I what I have always said. Stay out of Syria, let the Syrians sort it out.


A seventy year old who has no clue.

Where are the millions of Sunnis going to go if not into the arms of Jihadi Groups or Europe?

there was a window of opportunity to actually make great progress and really inflict major blows to terrorist groups (like Al Qaeda and DAESH) which can only be achieved by attacking their funding and recruitment grounds on top of the military option. And to do that in Syria, you needed political change. Political change which would have seen Sunni Moderate Rebels fight against DAESH and Al Qaeda themselves.

Military option on its own is ineffective.

In the end milti. The world has failed, and there will be a very heavy price for that, including mayhem on the streets and that includes on our very own streets and cities.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:50 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Who do you think you are Milti?

You think this sectarian conflict going back centuries will just die off?

Only chance of that is with a political solution. get one over one side and that side will in turn be out for blood.

You think about it. The West and Russia are in no position to solve this militarily without killing thousands of people and ensuring future conflicts on a much grander scale including global terrorism.

This is the beginning. It's going to be a very bad year for the world.

A 70 year old who has been around a little longer than you have.
As you rightly say neither the west nor Russia can solve this problem, which concurs with I what I have always said. Stay out of Syria, let the Syrians sort it out.


A seventy year old who has no clue.

Where are the millions of Sunnis going to go if not into the arms of Jihadi Groups or Europe?

there was a window of opportunity to actually make great progress and really inflict major blows to terrorist groups (like Al Qaeda and DAESH) which can only be achieved by attacking their funding and recruitment grounds on top of the military option. And to do that in Syria, you needed political change. Political change which would have seen Sunni Moderate Rebels fight against DAESH and Al Qaeda themselves.

Military option on its own is ineffective.

In the end milti. The world has failed, and there will be a very heavy price for that, including mayhem on the streets and that includes on our very own streets and cities.

Since so far you have been abysmally wrong on Syria, who is to say you will be right elsewhere.
Are there really ....moderate rebels ??? :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:54 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Who do you think you are Milti?

You think this sectarian conflict going back centuries will just die off?

Only chance of that is with a political solution. get one over one side and that side will in turn be out for blood.

You think about it. The West and Russia are in no position to solve this militarily without killing thousands of people and ensuring future conflicts on a much grander scale including global terrorism.

This is the beginning. It's going to be a very bad year for the world.

A 70 year old who has been around a little longer than you have.
As you rightly say neither the west nor Russia can solve this problem, which concurs with I what I have always said. Stay out of Syria, let the Syrians sort it out.


A seventy year old who has no clue.

Where are the millions of Sunnis going to go if not into the arms of Jihadi Groups or Europe?

there was a window of opportunity to actually make great progress and really inflict major blows to terrorist groups (like Al Qaeda and DAESH) which can only be achieved by attacking their funding and recruitment grounds on top of the military option. And to do that in Syria, you needed political change. Political change which would have seen Sunni Moderate Rebels fight against DAESH and Al Qaeda themselves.

Military option on its own is ineffective.

In the end milti. The world has failed, and there will be a very heavy price for that, including mayhem on the streets and that includes on our very own streets and cities.

Since so far you have been abysmally wrong on Syria, who is to say you will be right elsewhere.
Are there really ....moderate rebels ??? :lol: :lol:


Milti,

UI have never been wrong in Syria. First, you need to comprehend that which I am telling you but unfortunately you always pretend to not understand.

This war will NOT be over in Syria. it will continue and it will be just as brutal for years to come. DAESH haven't finished yet ei9ther and we will wait to see how that plays out.

The rebels will either join Jihadist groups or continue to subvert the regime.

The Coalition will still maintain its operations in North Syria, Idlib and around Raqqa.

I have not been proven wrong yet. Everything I have said thus far has turned out to be accurate.

The only thing that has happened is that Aleppo has fallen. that's it!

Only an idiot will correlate that the end of the war.

potentially, you will be talking about this war and the next one for the rest of your life and international terrorism is going to escalate to unprecedented levels.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:14 pm

Care to tell me which of your views has thus far been proven right, on the Syrian issue that is.
Remember saying that Russia achieved " zero" and your dismissal of Aleppo old city falling to the Syrian army as " bollocks ? Come now, you have been consistently wrong. Your coalition has all but given up. Just look at how utterly lethargic it has been on Aleppo.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:12 pm

Paphitis:
I have never been wrong in Syria. First, you need to comprehend that which I am telling you but unfortunately you always pretend to not understand .

This war will NOT be over in Syria. it will continue and it will be just as brutal for years to come. DAESH haven't finished yet ei9ther and we will wait to see how that plays out.


You have certainly not been correct at all about events in Syria and you are wrong .... again! The war will end as a military conflict but will then become a terrorists campaign with car bomb, attacks on market places and places of worship and all the other crimes that come with terrorism. That is not something that is exclusive to Syria.

What you overlook in your predictions is that Assad will change his constitution in line with what the majority of Syrian people want. He was already doing that when this conflict started. This will calm the situation within the country as people will have work and will gradually be able to improve their lives This relative stability will gradually remove the pool of discontents that the Islamists rely on for their recruitment and the people will be more inclined to point the finger at these terrorists as we have seen happening in Aleppo.

Assad and the Russians will drive Daesh out as a military force. They are relatively thin on the ground in Syria and occupy vast areas of desert. So they will be much easier to deal with, than when they are operating in cities and towns.

The rebels will either join Jihadist groups or continue to subvert the regime.


Many are joining the SAA too. Those that join Jihadi groups are terrorists not rebels. They may well try to subvert the regime, who will round them up, chuck them in prison and hopefully throw away the key!
The Coalition will still maintain its operations in North Syria, Idlib and around Raqqa.


That is against international law and I don’t think Syria or Russia will just accept that YOU can take what YOU want when it suits YOU ? :evil:
I have not been proven wrong yet. Everything I have said thus far has turned out to be accurate.


In your dreams maybe .... but reality says very differently. :lol: :lol:

The only thing that has happened is that Aleppo has fallen. that's it!


So you were wrong about that? :roll:

Only an idiot will correlate that the end of the war.


I don’t think anyone has said that either on this forum or even the media. It is a battle that has been won. That is all. The end of the war will come when YOUR terrorists and Daesh no longer have the means or the will to fight back on a significant scale. The liberation of Aleppo will release thousands of well trained and experienced forces to now deal with the rural war fare.

potentially, you will be talking about this war and the next one for the rest of your life and international terrorism is going to escalate to unprecedented levels.


I basically agree with that paragraph ........ but who do we have to thank for that? What bunch of assh*les went in and stirred up the hornet’s nest ? Wherever the US pokes its nose in ..... not far behind comes war, death and destruction. Who then decided to give the ‘hornets’ weapons to eventually fight back against those that stirred up the nest in the first place?

Yes it will spread and ordinary people will suffer for a long time ...... all because the US wanted the exclusive right to all the World’s resources and then destroyed any power that got in their way or could not be bought off, no matter what the cost to the people of other nations.

As ye sow, so shall ye reap. :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:19 pm

oh dear milti will notlike your for that. yanks can do no wrong.

i got news for him though trump will do far worse than obama. at least obama was doing it on the quiet but trump will do it openly. the arabs are in for a rough 5 years. god help us all.
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