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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:17 am

Paphitis wrote:look!

Trump is no idiot. 8 years of Obama have been terrible for world peace and stability. After 8 years of Obama, we have never been closer to a major war and potential nuclear Holocaust.

That just goes to show, that Obama's Foreign Policies were never ever any good to world peace and stability.



Rather contradictory don't you think ? Not many weeks ago you said that Trumo WAS an idiot.
You now agree that Obama's foreign policies were rubbish, ie the involvement in Syria and the support of the rebel jihadists !!!
Your first para is rather contradictory too !!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:40 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:look!

Trump is no idiot. 8 years of Obama have been terrible for world peace and stability. After 8 years of Obama, we have never been closer to a major war and potential nuclear Holocaust.

That just goes to show, that Obama's Foreign Policies were never ever any good to world peace and stability.



Rather contradictory don't you think ? Not many weeks ago you said that Trumo WAS an idiot.
You now agree that Obama's foreign policies were rubbish, ie the involvement in Syria and the support of the rebel jihadists !!!
Your first para is rather contradictory too !!


I actually told you a long time ago, that even if trump wins, the deep state will continue to do what it has been doing for decades.

No, the Coalition's involvement in Iraq and Syria has been the only sound input into these conflicts by any side and only complicated by outsiders like Russia and Turkey. The Coalition's success in Iraq speaks for itself, a success which the regime in Syria will never see as things stand without a comprehensive peace settlement.

There will NEVER be a military settlement in Syria. Without a comprehensive settlement, there will always be 50 odd militant groups in Syria waging war against the regime. it's gone beyond critical mass and the regime will NEVER be able to achieve security in Syria without Russian troops, or a comprehensive settlement.

There will be war in Syria indefinitely until there is a settlement with transition. That is the reality as bitter as it is for you.

And the Coalition will maintain its presence.

I am very happy with trump as well. Basically everything the media said about him has been false.

I also value a nation's institutions more than the individual. it's the office not the man! If someone is elected to the office that I do not agree with, I will still respect and value the office and what it represents and get over any petty issues.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:54 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:look!

Trump is no idiot. 8 years of Obama have been terrible for world peace and stability. After 8 years of Obama, we have never been closer to a major war and potential nuclear Holocaust.

That just goes to show, that Obama's Foreign Policies were never ever any good to world peace and stability.



Rather contradictory don't you think ? Not many weeks ago you said that Trumo WAS an idiot.
You now agree that Obama's foreign policies were rubbish, ie the involvement in Syria and the support of the rebel jihadists !!!
Your first para is rather contradictory too !!


I actually told you a long time ago, that even if trump wins, the deep state will continue to do what it has been doing for decades.

No, the Coalition's involvement in Iraq and Syria has been the only sound input into these conflicts by any side and only complicated by outsiders like Russia and Turkey. The Coalition's success in Iraq speaks for itself, a success which the regime in Syria will never see as things stand without a comprehensive peace settlement.

There will NEVER be a military settlement in Syria. Without a comprehensive settlement, there will always be 50 odd militant groups in Syria waging war against the regime. it's gone beyond critical mass and the regime will NEVER be able to achieve security in Syria without Russian troops, or a comprehensive settlement.

There will be war in Syria indefinitely until there is a settlement with transition. That is the reality as bitter as it is for you.

And the Coalition will maintain its presence.

I am very happy with trump as well. Basically everything the media said about him has been false.

Almost 6 years on since the conflict begun, almost 500 thousand killed, millions displaced and you still support the rebels, emboldened by the Wests utter stupidity. Assad is still in power, the rebels have almost being defeated, yet you still believe the West was right in intervening. As Trump said " we don't know these people" - the rebels.

Your entire input has been utterly ludicrous, I think everyone on this forum would agree. Your logic has been hijacked by your intense antipathy towards Putin and Russia. You are not objective but obsessed with Putin.

You are a good guy but disastrously wrong.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:03 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:look!

Trump is no idiot. 8 years of Obama have been terrible for world peace and stability. After 8 years of Obama, we have never been closer to a major war and potential nuclear Holocaust.

That just goes to show, that Obama's Foreign Policies were never ever any good to world peace and stability.



Rather contradictory don't you think ? Not many weeks ago you said that Trumo WAS an idiot.
You now agree that Obama's foreign policies were rubbish, ie the involvement in Syria and the support of the rebel jihadists !!!
Your first para is rather contradictory too !!


I actually told you a long time ago, that even if trump wins, the deep state will continue to do what it has been doing for decades.

No, the Coalition's involvement in Iraq and Syria has been the only sound input into these conflicts by any side and only complicated by outsiders like Russia and Turkey. The Coalition's success in Iraq speaks for itself, a success which the regime in Syria will never see as things stand without a comprehensive peace settlement.

There will NEVER be a military settlement in Syria. Without a comprehensive settlement, there will always be 50 odd militant groups in Syria waging war against the regime. it's gone beyond critical mass and the regime will NEVER be able to achieve security in Syria without Russian troops, or a comprehensive settlement.

There will be war in Syria indefinitely until there is a settlement with transition. That is the reality as bitter as it is for you.

And the Coalition will maintain its presence.

I am very happy with trump as well. Basically everything the media said about him has been false.

Almost 6 years on since the conflict begun, almost 500 thousand killed, millions displaced and you still support the rebels, emboldened by the Wests utter stupidity. Assad is still in power, the rebels have almost being defeated, yet you still believe the West was right in intervening. As Trump said " we don't know these people" - the rebels.

Your entire input has been utterly ludicrous, I think everyone on this forum would agree. Your logic has been hijacked by your intense antipathy towards Putin and Russia. You are not objective but obsessed with Putin.

You are a good guy but disastrously wrong.


It's not the rebels who are responsible for the 300,000 casualties.

This was the Arab Spring and Assad started this in 2012 when he started shooting protesters on the street. the rest is history.

And yes, 300,000 is too many dead people to just stop now. this will go on and it will go on and on because we are beyond the point of counting dead bodies now. that is the cold harsh reality. 300,000 people are already dead. it doesn't matter if more die now to achieve equal rights for Sunnis.

To stop now, will only mean it starts again next year or the year after that.

This war will not end without a comprehensive settlement. there are 2 sides to this war, and you can't suppress one side with a military solution and expect peace and stability over the entire nation. it's impossible!

This is a sectarian war, not entirely different to the enclaves of Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus between 1963 and 1967. Only difference is that this is about 1000 times more brutal.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:16 am

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Robin Hood wrote:like you Paphitis .... he is a bit ahead of events but his view has more credibility than yours. :roll: :wink:

The Battle For Aleppo Is Over, Now The Real War Has Begun

The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has essentially reclaimed the city of Aleppo in the past couple of days. The failure to break the siege from the Southwest coupled with the Turkish Army not resupplying militants meant the situation wouldn’t hold for long.

Aleppo is the key to the Syrian ‘civil war.’ Now that pro-Assad forces have won the day it touches off a number of responses around the region. This further breaks down the position of U.S/NATO-backed forces trying to oust Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power, regardless of what Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has to say about it.

It also ushers in the next potential escalation of the proxy war between the outgoing Obama administration, doing the bidding of the U.S. Deep State, and its opponents coalescing around Russia and its front-man President Vladimir Putin.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-01/battle-aleppo-over-now-real-war-has-begun


Sorry, but I don't read zerohedge, and the rebels still have Aleppo, validating the fact that your sources are non credible.


That's where you miss out, all you ever get is the State controlled media version of events. OK .... to placate you; the BBC World News has just said that President Assad's forces now occupy over 60% of the area previously held by YOUR terrorists. They also said there are reports that men and teenage boys are being taken out of the fleeing civilians. That can only mean one thing ..... they are looking for YOUR terrorists.

More information for you: Tersasa May and Johnson criticised Russia for being responsible for holding up aid to the people in the freed areas of Eastern Aleppo. Both wrong ..... they obviously get their information from the same sources you do. The Castello Road to the north of the now freed areas, has been open for a couple of days now and both Russian and Syrian Government aid has been getting into the area via this route. Hence there is no need for 'corridors' ..... the access is open and relatively secure.

ALEPPO UPDATES: ‘Only Road’ to Deliver Aid to Eastern Aleppo, Castello Road – is Liberated

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/11/30/aleppo-updates-only-road-to-deliver-aid-to-eastern-aleppo-castello-road-is-liberated/


A Russian General has also told the UK that as so far ,not a single blanket, a roll of bandage or a single pill has been provided by the UK Government for these displaced civilians, that they should shut their mouths and get out of the way and let those that are providing aid get on with it. As they say in UK Parliament ...... Hear hear!!!!

BTW: The Russians have just flown in several fully equipped field hospitals ....... just in time as .... your terrorists have just killed five and injured many more civilians in rocket attacks on civilian areas of Western Aleppo.

But I can forgive you your ignorance of what is actually happening in Aleppo .... as you have crap sources for information!

Try this ........ it shoots down more rubbish you have posted; :roll:

Aleppo: How US-Saudi Backed “Rebels” Target “Every Syrian”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/aleppo-how-us-saudi-backed-rebels-target-every-syrian/5559640
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:21 am

Oh dear, it looks like someone missed the latest developments.

Pootin is already negotiating and Lavrov has just called for an ASSAD back down.

I told you boys to hold onto your pants.

The latest ramblings seem to indicate that Moscow is starting to look favourably on a settlement and TRANSITION! :lol:

Well it f@#king makes a lot of sense, because there will NEVER be peace in Syria without the Sunnis.

Get ready boys and girls. I expect an apology from the lot of you too, for being absolute insufferable stupid dorks.

Not only this, but Russia is holding talks with the FSA.

You wanna know why? because the Russians are running out of time.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:39 am

Paphitis wrote:Oh dear, it looks like someone missed the latest developments.

Pootin is already negotiating and Lavrov has just called for an ASSAD back down.

I told you boys to hold onto your pants.

The latest ramblings seem to indicate that Moscow is starting to look favourably on a settlement and TRANSITION! :lol:

Well it f@#king makes a lot of sense, because there will NEVER be peace in Syria without the Sunnis.

Get ready boys and girls. I expect an apology from the lot of you too, for being absolute insufferable stupid dorks.

Not only this, but Russia is holding talks with the FSA.

You wanna know why? because the Russians are running out of time.

Would the link be this by any chance www.paphitisviews.com :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:00 pm

That does not seem to be the case Paphitis.

Lavrov is saying that Kerry has made proposals in line with Russian experts because they are looking for a way out. To try and show that they are on the right side of history with regards to Syria when they have not been.

read more here : https://www.rt.com/news/369093-us-aleppo-russia-talks/
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:33 pm

Maximus wrote:That does not seem to be the case Paphitis.

Lavrov is saying that Kerry has made proposals in line with Russian experts because they are looking for a way out. To try and show that they are on the right side of history with regards to Syria when they have not been.

read more here : https://www.rt.com/news/369093-us-aleppo-russia-talks/


Max .... you don't honestly believe that Paphitis would accept anything RT said as being anything other than Russian propaganda ? He won't lower himself to watch informative channels for news ..... it's just too painful for him! :roll: :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:43 pm

Paphitis – have these ‘false news’ sites checked this out with you before going public with all this pro-Russian propaganda? :lol: :lol:

Aleppo siege: Syria rebels lose 60% of territory

Close to two-thirds of rebel-held areas of east Aleppo have now fallen to the Syrian government after another district was seized. A UK-based monitor said the Tariq al-Bab district fell on Friday, opening up a link between government-held areas and Aleppo's airport.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38194136


Things are looking bad for YOU Paphitis ....... even the Coventry Tee shirt salesman (SOHR) agrees with the BBC.


Even more predictions you got badly wrong .......... What did WE on just this forum tell you a year ago? You declared boastfully that the coalition was running the show and that Russia was contributing nothing ! How wrong can you get? Now Putin/Lavrov are politely giving Kerry and the US a way out to save face by agreeing to Lavrov’s own proposals spouted back by Kerry as ‘.... his own cunning plan!’ Did you ever watch Black Adder ..... Baldrick used to come up with cunning plans too! :roll:

Reading between the lines, the US is trying to get all its special forces advisors out safely rather than in body bags. Also retrieving the top al-Qaida terrorists to prevent Assad putting those that survive, on the rack and squeezing a few juicy admissions out of them. YOUR terrorists are history!

Syria war: How Moscow’s bombing campaign has paid off for Putin

Russian forces have been operating in support of the government of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria for a year.
Their impact has been significant. When they arrived, there were fears that government forces were close to collapse.This position has largely been reversed.

It is the Syrian government - while still fragile - that is now on the offensive with a brutal bid to recapture the whole of the city of Aleppo.Initially seen by US analysts through the prism of recent Western military involvements in the region, many pundits were quick to dismiss the Russian effort as likely to fail. The Russian military, it was said, was not up to expeditionary warfare. Russia would quickly find itself bogged down in a Syrian quagmire.

Things have turned out very differently.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37507207


Paphitis .... get on the hot-line! These people seem to have got the situation all wrong. They all agree with what WE have been telling you for months.

Russia seeks full rebel pullout from Aleppo

Russia said on Saturday it was ready for talks with the United States about a withdrawal of all Syrian rebels from eastern Aleppo where advances by the Russian-backed Syrian army and its allies threaten to deal a crushing blow to the rebellion.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idUSKBN13S0BF


Note .... how it is Russia calling the shots not YOU ! How humiliating. :oops: All the US coalition wants now is a face saving exit from Syria ...... Russia will help them but the astute will see through the smoke and mirrors. :roll:

Get that big humble pie ready ........... you will need it sooner than you think. I think you should arrange for a big celebration for all those on the forum that can get to Limassol, that got it right ...... The Four Seasons will be a fine choice! :idea: :lol: :lol:
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