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[Paphitis]

That isn't true. We do not do as we are told. We are sovereign and our alliance has been built over many decades of mutual respect and also on the battlefield.

We also have cultural and ethnic links to white America. We are linked through our common history and Irish, and Germanic as well as Anglo heritage.

If Coalition allies have been taken for a ride then that changes everything and it also undermines our alliances. It will be disastrous to US Foreign Policy.

The US will listen to what its allies have to say and we have many supporters within Trump's cabinet, Pentagon and Washington elites who will never allow Trump to make stupid decisions which undermine Coalition, NATO and ANZUS members.

Australia, France, UK, Japan or Saudi Arabia are not some countries Trump can afford to ignore. We are not Cyprus!!

Australia and USA even supported the IRA together.

[miltiades]

Well, lets wait and see when Trump is inaugurated. Syria needs peace, the only way is the defeat of the jihadists fighting the legal government.

[Paphitis]

Well, lets wait and see when Trump is inaugurated. Syria needs peace, the only way is the defeat of the jihadists fighting the legal government.

Syria will not have peace as long as Assad is in power.

As a matter of fact, DAESH will never be defeated as long as Assad remains. Assad fuels and gives power to DAESH and not only.

If Assad goes, DAESH will have the wind removed from its sails.

As DAESH are defeated in Iraq, the remnants will find refuge in Syria.

The Syrian Sunnis will not just forgive Assad and live under his control.

It's like the TCs not trusting the GCs after the intercommunal crisis between 63 and 67. Once the glass is shattered, it can't be repaired properly. There will always be a crack or a rift.

And Europe will have to deal with 14 million Sunni refugees. Enjoy them in a neighborhood near you.

As for Trump, the alliance is of enormous importance to US interests. Trump is not allowed to be making any geo-strategic decisions involving Russia without its allies. To do so will be a mistake of unprecedented proportions which will create a massive rift the likes of which will never be repaired until he leaves office. The POTUS is an institution. Decisions have consequences for important allies and the USA. America will lose credibility and countries like Australia will arm itself to the teeth with weapons you don't want to know.

[miltiades]

Paphitis, you seem to focus on what YOU want ignoring what the media tells us about Trump's intentions on Syria. Now most reasonable observers, and all of us are just mere observers, read what Trump syas and make our own judgement. Not you it appears.
"Donald Trump signifies he will end US support for Syrian rebels despite their pleas to him for help
President-elect appears to reiterate his position that an alliance with Syrian and Russian governments to defeat Isis is his preferred way forward in the Syrian conflict "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 13346.html
" President-Elect Donald Trump appears to recognize that Syria is not America’s responsibility. Unfortunately, Vice President-Elect Mike Pence, as well as some of those mentioned for top administration positions, take a more militaristic perspective. Trump should announce that his administration will not get involved in Syria’s civil war in any way."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/ ... 0e18ad2cec

Are we to ignore all these and listen to you ! Come on mate use your logic.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, you seem to focus on what YOU want ignoring what the media tells us about Trump's intentions on Syria. Now most reasonable observers, and all of us are just mere observers, read what Trump syas and make our own judgement. Not you it appears.
"Donald Trump signifies he will end US support for Syrian rebels despite their pleas to him for help
President-elect appears to reiterate his position that an alliance with Syrian and Russian governments to defeat Isis is his preferred way forward in the Syrian conflict "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 13346.html
" President-Elect Donald Trump appears to recognize that Syria is not America’s responsibility. Unfortunately, Vice President-Elect Mike Pence, as well as some of those mentioned for top administration positions, take a more militaristic perspective. Trump should announce that his administration will not get involved in Syria’s civil war in any way."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/ ... 0e18ad2cec

Are we to ignore all these and listen to you ! Come on mate use your logic.

The media knows nothing and Trump has given no indication of anything other than appointing a 5 star general as Defence Secretary.

Trump will succumb to the Deep State! What he said during the campaign and what he will do after getting access to all the classified intel will be 2 different things not to mention the fact that the USA has International Partners and Allies and can't afford to go against the tide because doing so will be like shooting himself in the foot!

You stick to your MSM! The same MSM who thinks Fidel is some kind of hero.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

That isn't true. We do not do as we are told. We are sovereign and our alliance has been built over many decades of mutual respect and also on the battlefield.

Once you sign up to a coalition you effectively lose your sovereignty. You become part of The Team, that is why it is called the US Coalition ..... they direct you follow!

We also have cultural and ethnic links to white America. We are linked through our common history and Irish, and Germanic as well as Anglo heritage.

We ‘whites’ are all of European origin. America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand ..... all destroyed the original peoples.

If Coalition allies have been taken for a ride then that changes everything and it also undermines our alliances. It will be disastrous to US Foreign Policy.

You were taken for a ride but willingly. No use now saying .... but we did not realise the implications. If the US commits war crimes, which we know it does, then you are all guilty. US foreign policy, I have a sneaking suspicion is about to change ..... unless ‘They’ kill Trump first.

The US will listen to what its allies have to say and we have many supporters within Trump's cabinet, Pentagon and Washington elites who will never allow Trump to make stupid decisions which undermine Coalition, NATO and ANZUS members.

Yeah, the Americans will listen but they don’t do anything that does not suit their plans.

Australia, France, UK, Japan or Saudi Arabia are not some countries Trump can afford to ignore. We are not Cyprus!!

You are like flies on an elephants rump! Without the US as a prop, none of those you list would survive, either militarily or commercially. They are virtually ALL US subsidiaries ...... they do what their US owners says they do.

Australia and USA even supported the IRA together.

Is that something to be proud of? Like both have supported Al-Qaida and all these other Islamic terrorists ? Maybe it was the US and Australia that was providing the weapons to the IRA then ....... and not Ghadaffi ?

[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

That isn't true. We do not do as we are told. We are sovereign and our alliance has been built over many decades of mutual respect and also on the battlefield.

Once you sign up to a coalition you effectively lose your sovereignty. You become part of The Team, that is why it is called the US Coalition ..... they direct you follow!

We also have cultural and ethnic links to white America. We are linked through our common history and Irish, and Germanic as well as Anglo heritage.

We ‘whites’ are all of European origin. America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand ..... all destroyed the original peoples.

If Coalition allies have been taken for a ride then that changes everything and it also undermines our alliances. It will be disastrous to US Foreign Policy.

You were taken for a ride but willingly. No use now saying .... but we did not realise the implications. If the US commits war crimes, which we know it does, then you are all guilty. US foreign policy, I have a sneaking suspicion is about to change ..... unless ‘They’ kill Trump first.

The US will listen to what its allies have to say and we have many supporters within Trump's cabinet, Pentagon and Washington elites who will never allow Trump to make stupid decisions which undermine Coalition, NATO and ANZUS members.

Yeah, the Americans will listen but they don’t do anything that does not suit their plans.

Australia, France, UK, Japan or Saudi Arabia are not some countries Trump can afford to ignore. We are not Cyprus!!

You are like flies on an elephants rump! Without the US as a prop, none of those you list would survive, either militarily or commercially. They are virtually ALL US subsidiaries ...... they do what their US owners says they do.

Australia and USA even supported the IRA together.

Is that something to be proud of? Like both have supported Al-Qaida and all these other Islamic terrorists ? Maybe it was the US and Australia that was providing the weapons to the IRA then ....... and not Ghadaffi ?

Yes the Voalition is a team. Trump can't undermine the team. If he does, he ultimately undermines the alliance and the USA and its interests as well as the team's interests.

The USA is the cornerstone of our alliance and has its say and formidable power but the rest of the team also has power too!!

America and Australia have very close ties. America can go on a rampage and Australia will be in cohoots. The ties between Australia and America are extremely close, far more closer than Europe, UK or even Ireland. Why? Because both have similar histories. We were both the Wild West where bushrangers would carry side arms to the saloon or pub. We were both frontier nations. We are both fundamentally predominately Irish, then British, then German or Kraut. The ties are far more solid than any European links.

If Britain and the USA went to war, Australia is likely to be on America's side.

If the USA or Australia are complicit in War Crimes then Pootin should reveal the evidence to the ICJ. We haven't though and feel very comfortable in our skin unlike Assad!

America's plans rely heavily on its alliance. It's also the alliances plans. The alliance is very much a big part of America's interests and America is very much a big part of our interests. No one is forced to be a member of the coalition or a NATO member or an ANZUS member.

And no, I think you will also find that Britain, Australia and France are a much greater power than Russia is. Stop pretending Russia is a major superpower now. It isn't!

And yes, I am very proud of Australia's contribution to Sinn Fein. I support a unified Ireland. Australia is very much connected to Ireland as is America. It is our mother country. I am proud that both Australia and America stood at the side of those trying to achieve justice for Ireland at the expense of Britain. It was noble!

[Maximus]

The Turkish military launched its operations in Syria to end the rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Nov. 29.

The Hypocrite.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=352

[Robin Hood]

The Turkish military launched its operations in Syria to end the rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Nov. 29.

The Hypocrite.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=352

He seems to be delusional! He has no mandate to remove Assad. That can only be authorised by the UNSC , without that any action, including that of the coalition is unlawful. That is why Assad and the Russians have continually had the upper hand. Their actions comply with International Law. But I note that others agree with Trumps intention to work with Russia and concentrate on destroying Daesh, not supporting terrorists intent on Assads overthrow.

[Maximus]

The Turkish military launched its operations in Syria to end the rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Nov. 29.

The Hypocrite.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey ... sCatID=352

He seems to be delusional! He has no mandate to remove Assad. That can only be authorised by the UNSC , without that any action, including that of the coalition is unlawful. That is why Assad and the Russians have continually had the upper hand. Their actions comply with International Law. But I note that others agree with Trumps intention to work with Russia and concentrate on destroying Daesh, not supporting terrorists intent on Assads overthrow.

I agree,

In Turkey's case, going after ISIS is the excuse to be in Syria, the Turks are really going after Assad and the Kurds and probably some Syrian land. They are supporting ISIS, and ISIS figths with them.

Its too hard to believe that Turkey, the US, the rest of the coalition, Syria and Russia cant put out ISIS together. They are all saying they are fighting ISIS, but we know they cant be. they are not, otherwise ISIS would have been erradicated many years ago given the collective military might of this lot.