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[miltiades]

There will be no such action as a no fly zone in Syria. Paphitis has now resigned hence no such order can be given

Does anyone really take seriously the prospect of US aircraft shooting down Russian planes over Syria ? NEVER. Such an act would inevitably lead to a war with Russia. Those considering such action are as naïve as Paphitis is

[Robin Hood]

Miltiades:

There will be no such action as a no fly zone in Syria. Paphitis has now resigned hence no such order can be given

You may well be right, as the moderate head choppers are admitting they are pulling back on many fronts and blaming barrel bombs, block-buster bombs and cluster bombs for their defeat ..... and of course the lack of hospitals due to the regimes bombing. So they are obviously greatly missing his direction to victory!

Actually I think he has changed jobs and is now a director of information for the White Helmets and is helping them film their heroics for the Western world to soak up. Even the SOHR admits the SAA is driving the terrorists (Rebels?) out and is finding it unavoidable now to admit terrorist casualties.

Syrian army captures part of rebel-held east Aleppo

The Syrian army said it had taken control of an important district in rebel-held eastern Aleppo on Saturday after fierce fighting, with rebels blaming intense air strikes and lack of hospitals for their collapsing frontline.
Government forces advanced with a ground and air assault on the edge of the besieged eastern half of the city, a move the rebels say is designed to split their most important urban stronghold in two.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-aleppo-idUSKBN13L0KR

However ............... in Mosul it is very slow ......... and still no serious street to street fighting in the City itself.

The advance in Mosul has made little progress as many US coalition gains are quickly reversed as Daesh moves back in. The mass of the Iraqi Army is still in the suburbs and apart from coalition air strikes, they have failed to make any substantial inroads into the city itself. The gains are in the main being achieved by the Kurdish fighters. It is still a very porous siege as weapons are still getting to Daesh ........ including MANPADS apparently.

Although there is effectively a news blackout from Mosul, reports that are getting out suggest that civilian casualties and infrastructure damage and destruction is high, both from coalition bombing and terrorist rockets and mortars ..... to date no figures seem to be available about the numbers of casualties in Mosul but if Syria is anything to go by ..............

USA must come clean about civilian deaths caused by Coalition air strikes in Syria

Research and documentation by leading human rights and monitoring organizations including the Syrian Network for Human Rights, Airwars, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Violations Documentation Center indicates that the total number of civilians killed by Coalition forces in Syria since operations began could be as high as 600 or more than 1,000.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/10/usa-must-come-clean-about-civilian-deaths-caused-by-coalition-air-strikes-in-syria/

Although it has to be said (in Paphitis’ absence), unlike the US coalitions unfortunate accidental destruction of hospitals and schools and the killing of civilians, those due to Syrian and Russian air attacks are all deliberately aimed at hospitals, schools and are deliberately targeted at civilians! Anyone that believes that scenario as having any credibility as an argument must have a mind that is very easily deluded by propaganda.

A lot of civilian deaths in Mosul are also down to terrorist attacks on civilian areas, as they are in Aleppo.

Slaughter of innocents continues in battle for Mosul

Dozens of children and civilians are among victims the battle for Mosul produces every single day

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/25/middleeast/mosul-innocents-slaughtered/

Miltiades:

Does anyone really take seriously the prospect of US aircraft shooting down Russian planes over Syria ? NEVER. Such an act would inevitably lead to a war with Russia. Those considering such action are as naïve as Paphitis is

Unfortunately ............ YES ? The US has come to expect that threats against them are futile, which means they do what suits America. They are now faced with someone who can hurt them ..... but the US still retains the illusion of military superiority and invulnerability to either attack or retaliation.

[Maximus]

Two years ago, Assad was blaming erdogan personally for the chaos in Syria. He was saying and will probably still say that the terrorist financing and support is coming through Tukrey.
http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/syria/260120151

Turkey has invaded Syria and is being engaged by Syrian government forces. Turkey Is also in Iraq.

Erdogan is now blackmailing and threatening to 'open the gates' to the refugees and economic migrants and dump them on to cause chaos in Europe. Then in the same breath say he is a humanitarian and upholds European values more than Europeans do.

It looks like another ethnic cleanse and land grab with delusional excuses of grandeur.

Where have we seen that before?

[Lordo]

There will be no such action as a no fly zone in Syria. Paphitis has now resigned hence no such order can be given

Does anyone really take seriously the prospect of US aircraft shooting down Russian planes over Syria ? NEVER. Such an act would inevitably lead to a war with Russia. Those considering such action are as naïve as Paphitis is

dont be stupid the terggggggs shot down a russian plane and the russians did fuck all about it. oh they cancelled couple of crates of eggs from tirabzon but that was all. poor pontians go it in the neck.

[miltiades]

It looks as the end of the war in Aleppo is approaching, government forces have made advances in East Aleppo, leading to the retreat of rebels fearing being split.

" It appears that Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, is planning to take Aleppo before the inauguration of president-elect Donald Trump in January, taking advantage of the political vacuum in the US and outgoing President Barack Obama’s refusal to become directly involved.

Trump is appointing national security advisers who are more willing to work with Russia to keep Bashar al-Assad as Syria’s president, focusing instead on driving out Islamic State.

The likely election of François Fillon as the leading rightwing French presidential candidate will also strengthen the diplomatic hand of Moscow since he is regarded as willing to work with Putin to reduce economic sanctions against Moscow."

It also looks that the West has all but abandoned the rebels. It is time that this war comes to an end and ends the suffering of the Syrian people.

[Robin Hood]

It looks as the end of the war in Aleppo is approaching, government forces have made advances in East Aleppo, leading to the retreat of rebels fearing being split.

" It appears that Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, is planning to take Aleppo before the inauguration of president-elect Donald Trump in January, taking advantage of the political vacuum in the US and outgoing President Barack Obama’s refusal to become directly involved.

Trump is appointing national security advisers who are more willing to work with Russia to keep Bashar al-Assad as Syria’s president, focusing instead on driving out Islamic State.

The likely election of François Fillon as the leading rightwing French presidential candidate will also strengthen the diplomatic hand of Moscow since he is regarded as willing to work with Putin to reduce economic sanctions against Moscow."

It also looks that the West has all but abandoned the rebels. It is time that this war comes to an end and ends the suffering of the Syrian people.

According to the BBC World News this morning, the Syrian Army, Hezbollah and Iranian Forces have all but cut Eastern Aleppo into two. From the map it appeared that the gap between government occupied areas to the East and West of the terrorist held areas, is no more than a couple of hundred metres.

I don’t think the Russians are directly involved in Aleppo. They are bombing terrorist and Daesh positions around the area but not Aleppo City itself. But the forecast is a confidence that Aleppo should be free of terrorists by the end of the year.

It appears from TV that all those running for office in Europe, are in step with Trump, and making noises about working with Putin, keeping Assad in the driving seat and concentrating on destroying Daesh as far as that is possible. As you say, I think Putin will start demanding the dropping of sanctions, mainly because the grounds for imposing them is beginning to fall apart as being nothing but more ‘false news’?

It is also now evident that the ‘false news’ that the Syrians in East Aleppo would not leave because they feared Assad was also rubbish. They WERE being held against their will under threat by the terrorists. Almost a thousand so far have left Eastern Aleppo as areas are cleared of terrorists and the approaches to the safe lanes to western Aleppo are demined.

There are still vast areas of very sparsely inhabited areas of Syria that are in the hands of terrorists, but once Aleppo reverts to government control they will follow the Syrian/Russian air attacks and kill or chase the terrorists out of other small towns and villages. They will never destroy these people completely ......... it only takes a few to cause trouble.

So ALL Paphitis' predictions for the outcome for the Syrian conflict have been wrong so far, especially events in Aleppo and the support for the terrorists which 'WE' would never abandon! The US and the coalition (except Australia I suppose) are now also willing to cooperate with 'pootin' ?

[miltiades]

Had the USA and other western powers did not rush into supporting the rebels the war would have been over long ago sparing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Syrians, millions of refugees would now be in their homes in Syria and Europe would not have been flooded with refugees. A dreadful error by the West an error that has prolonged this horrid war.

As for my dear friend Paphitis what can one say. He had it all wrong from the start, I hope he now realizes that the only sensible action is to allow the Syrian government to regain full control of Syria and gradually bring the Syrian people back to peace and stability.

The insistence by the west that Assad be removed, later abandoned, was a gross miscalculation of the highest level.

I have said on numerous occasions that the priority in Syria is a return to peace and only Assad would be capable of achieving this. Yes, he is a dictator , yes he can be ruthless , but who would replace him , a democrat, NO another much more ruthless and divisive ruler. West you fucked up real bad, should have listened to Miltiades in October 2012 instead of Paphitis !

OCTOBER 12th 2012:
"Syria must be left alone to solve its own problems, Russia, in my opinion as well as China are absolutely right in not supporting the revolutionaries infested with Islamic extremists and Jihadis. The West is making a dreadful error in contributing financially to the revolutionaries aided and abated by extremist Islamists who come to Syria from all corners of the world.Stay out of Syria is the best option and the only option that the West should consider."

[B25]

Where has Paphiti gone anyway????

He reminded me of Kate Aide the war reporter.

[Robin Hood]

Things really are moving in Aleppo.

Thousands of civilians are now able to flee as Assad’s forces clear each area of the US Coalitions terrorists, house by house. Most are making their way to the reception centres in Western Aleppo, set up by the Syrian Government.

It looks like the end is nigh for the terrorists that the US Coalition and its ME Allies have been supporting and arming for 4-5 years and have prolonged what could have been over in a couple of months. NOW COMES THE RECONNING as the stories come out with the hostages, about the abuses the coalition rebels have inflicted on the people!

I have no doubt that some terrorists are trying to slip out with civilians and many will get identified. Hopefully the SAA will send them back in under their watchful eyes, to remove all the booby traps!

Syrian army announces major advance in Aleppo

BEIRUT: The Syrian army and its allies announced the capture of a swathe of eastern Aleppo from rebels on Monday in an accelerating attack that threatens to crush the opposition in its most important urban stronghold.

Rebels denied that the army had taken the strategically vital Sakhour area which - if it fell - would mean rebel-held territory in the eastern part of the city was split in two.

But the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the government had taken Sakhour, and rebels had lost control of more than a third of eastern Aleppo in recent days.

It would also be seen as a victory for his allies, Russia and Iran, which have outmanoeuvred the West and Assad's regional enemies through direct military intervention.

With military backing from the Russian air force, Iran, and Lebanon's Hezbollah, Assad has gradually closed in on eastern Aleppo this year.

Citing a military source, Syrian state TV said the army and its allies had seized the entire Sakhour area and were working to clear it of mines. Backed by allied militiamen, the army has been advancing into eastern Aleppo.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-aleppo-idUSKBN13N0H4

Syrian Army Liberates Northern Part of Aleppo City, Delivers Devastating Blow to Militants

Now, the operation is ongoing in Sheikh Khizir. Local sources say that most of militants have fled to the Old Aleppo. So, the main work is to remove explosive devices and secure the area. Sheikh Khizir will be under the full control of government forces in the coming hours.

De-facto, northern Aleppo fell into hands of the Syrian army and its allies.

https://southfront.org/syrian-army-liberates-northern-part-of-aleppo-city-delivers-devastating-blow-to-militants/

Now the US Coalition have some decisions to make!

Do they follow the example given by Assad and his allies in Aleppo and go into Mosul to take it as a street-by-street, house-by-house exercise in urban warfare, or do they sit there for the next five years, scratching their b*lls waiting for Daesh to raise their hands in surrender?

Paphitis ..... Your US buddies stitched you up good with a load of ‘false news’ stories and you soaked it up like blotting paper. Are you big enough to now admit you got it all wrong?

[miltiades]

" Exodus as Syria rebels lose northeast Aleppo"

This is sheer madness, it is time the Western world announced to the rebels that their cause is doomed to fail, the killing and suffering of the Syrian people must now end.

The little boy with his head bleeding is no more than 7 - 8 years old, same age as my own grand son. It makes me so mad to see the continued suffering and killing of young innocent boys and girls. West, declare the war over, do not embolden further the rebels Tell them its all over.
Put sanctions on Assad's government and demand a return to peace. The rebels will NOT depose Assad, Stop now this inhumane atrocious war.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/1 ... 10047.html