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[miltiades]

[quote="Paphitis"]

I can't find a link that actually tallies a body count. not even WHO have one, but estimate over a million suicides every year.[quote]


Over a ...million every year !! Is this the number worldwide or just for Greece ?

[Paphitis]

I can't find a link that actually tallies a body count. not even WHO have one, but estimate over a million suicides every year.

Over a ...million every year !! Is this the number worldwide or just for Greece ?

Worldwide!

A million in Greece would be 10% of the entire population. I only attributed 10,000 suicides in Greece due to economic circumstances and austerity as well as unemployment. A body count that isn't insignificant given that Greece only had 6500 military losses fighting the Italians in WW2.

geez Miltiades, use your common sense! You're getting too old.

[miltiades]

How many suicides occur in Greece annually ? Can you provide a link ?

I can't find a link that actually tallies a body count. not even WHO have one, but estimate over a million suicides every year.

They usually give statistics of suicides on a per 100,000 basis. I guess it makes it easier to compare a percentage rate between countries.

http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/3/e007295.full

http://www.newsweek.com/greek-crisis-ha ... ion-353056

Mate, I asked if you had a link on the number of suicides in Greece. Your response was:
"I can't find a link that actually tallies a body count. not even WHO have one, but estimate over a million suicides every year."

The above implies clearly that the estimated figure of a million suicides every year applied to Greece. Am I losing it or what ?

[Paphitis]

One more thing, suicide is a real big problem worldwide, and there is an upward trend in most countries for a variety of reasons.

It's not something anyone should feel ashamed about, or take it as any criticism. most countries are trying to address this pandemic. it's literally a pandemic. Too many people are committing suicide, far more than most diseases, and Ebola.

And the only way to address it is to spend big money on mental health programs and initiatives and increase Health spending and also to make people aware of these issues and to be on the lookout through your family and networks.

[Paphitis]

How many suicides occur in Greece annually ? Can you provide a link ?

I can't find a link that actually tallies a body count. not even WHO have one, but estimate over a million suicides every year.

They usually give statistics of suicides on a per 100,000 basis. I guess it makes it easier to compare a percentage rate between countries.

http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/3/e007295.full

http://www.newsweek.com/greek-crisis-ha ... ion-353056

Mate, I asked if you had a link on the number of suicides in Greece. Your response was:
"I can't find a link that actually tallies a body count. not even WHO have one, but estimate over a million suicides every year."

The above implies clearly that the estimated figure of a million suicides every year applied to Greece. Am I losing it or what ?

You find it yourself. I tried and there isn't a body count. strangely enough, no country keeps a body tally not even the World health organisation.

Find one yourself and let me know how you get along.

The best I can do is give you the study done by a Greek Doctor.

http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/3/e007295.full

If you got an issue with the data, then I suggest you email Dr George Rachiotis

Dr George Rachiotis; [email protected]

[miltiades]

I visited this page earlier.
No mention of actual numbers.
The figure you said was an estimate , ie 1 million, obviously does refer to Greek suicides.

[Paphitis]

I visited this page earlier.
No mention of actual numbers.
The figure you said was an estimate , ie 1 million, obviously does refer to Greek suicides.

Yeh it does. It gives you a lot of statistics! In exactly the same format as the World health organisation (WHO).

http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/3/e007295.full

We then disaggregated suicide rates into the periods before and during Greece's austerity programme by age and sex. The mean suicide rate in Greece after 2010, when austerity began, was significantly higher than in the period 2003–2010 (4.42 vs 3.35/100 000 population, p<0.01). Rates increased significantly in both sexes. In particular, the suicide mortality rate for men increased from 5.75 (period 2003–2010) to 7.43/100 000 population (period 2011–2012; p<0.01). Among women, the suicide rate increased from 1.17 to 1.55, p=0.03.

The most affected age group was working men aged 20–59, in whom the suicide rate increased from 6.58 to 8.81/100 000 population (p<0.01). Among men aged >60, the suicide mortality rate increased from 8.58 (2003–2010) to 10.3 in 2011–2012, but this was not significant (p=0.053). By contrast, the suicide rate for men at ages 0–19 was stable at 0. 47 (2003–2010) and 0.45 (2011–2012). Among women at ages 20–59, we noted a significant increase in suicide mortality rate. In particular, the rate increased from 1.37 (2003–2010) to 1.84 (p=0.048). The suicide rate among older women (≥60) increased, again not statistically significantly, from 1.46 (2003–2010) to 1.83 (2011–2012). This was also observed for the age group 0–19 years.

It even gives you some illustrations.



You can see very clearly a spike in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012.

[GreekIslandGirl]

How many suicides occur in Greece annually ? Can you provide a link ?

He's an idiot. According to wiki, Greece ranks 140th out of 170 countries for suicides. That's lower than most developed countries (Sweden, USA, UK, France etc) including Cyprus (128th).

In addition, I'm not talking about 2016 data, but older data back between 2010 to 2012 where Greece had a huge spike.

My source (WHO via wiki) is for 2012!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... icide_rate

[Maximus]

How many suicides occur in Greece annually ? Can you provide a link ?

He's an idiot. According to wiki, Greece ranks 140th out of 170 countries for suicides. That's lower than most developed countries (Sweden, USA, UK, France etc) including Cyprus (128th).

In addition, I'm not talking about 2016 data, but older data back between 2010 to 2012 where Greece had a huge spike.

My source (WHO via wiki) is for 2012!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... icide_rate

That is suicides per 100,000 people per year.

Greece = 3.8 people commiting suicide per year per 100,000 people.

Thats about 420 people a year from a population of about 11 million people.

Which is about 0.0038% suicide rate in Greece for 2012 data.

[Maximus]

to estimate over a million suicides a year means that 10% of Greeces population commit suicide per year which means that Greeks will kill themselves off in about 10 years time which is a completely ludicrous estimate.