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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:37 pm

Paphitis:
Really? Who pointed the finger at us? A couple of bloodthirsty rogues?


Answer ........The People!

Do you ever read anything that is posted on the forum ? You certainly didn’t read the links you posted ..... they are way above your intellect level otherwise you would realise they do nothing to support anything you have said. :lol:

I think you are too dumb and too arrogant to come to a reasoned conclusion on anything and only succeed in making yourself look even more stupid every time you post. Your only quality is entertainment value, but don’t give up the day job. :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:02 am

Paphitis:

Aleppo ..... the Russians have given the moderates until Friday to comply, lay down their arms and walk out ..... after that the message is ‘..... or you will surely die.’ Yet another pause in hostilities by Syria/Russia today, whist the US coalition is carpet bombing Mosul from B-52’s as well as F-16 and French ground attacks. Do you still honestly believe that your coalition will take Mosul with no civilian casualties and no destruction as you have so often boasted in this thread? :?:

BBC have just announced 21 civilian deaths in Mosul due to coalition air strikes ..... although as there are no ‘White Helmets’ or 'Iraq Observatory of Human Rights' to provide information on casualties it seems to be coming either from the Iraqi military or local residents.

As there are obviously ever growing numbers of civilian deaths ....... in your book are the US coalition as guilty of war crimes as you accuse Assad/Russia being? Although the US seems some how to believe there are great differences between what is happening in Aleppo and the same events in Mosul, although what these differences are appear rather vague.
State Dept Believes There Are no Civilians in Mosul and No Terrorists in Aleppo

The US-led coalition carries out airstrikes only on terrorists and extremists in Iraq, while Russia and Syria bomb civilians, including the ‘moderate’ opposition, in Syria, spokesman for the US Department of State, John Kirby, said during a briefing. In this way, the US representative once again stressed the fact that military operations in Aleppo and Mosul cannot be compared.

https://southfront.org/us-state-dept-believes-no-civilians-mosul-no-terrorists-aleppo/


In response .........

Russian Defense Ministry Explained ‘Radical Difference’ Between Aleppo & Mosul


“The Russian Aerospace Forces and the Syrian air power do not operate in Aleppo for more than two weeks, while Mosul is daily struck by the US B-52H strategical bombers, as well as by the F/A-18 combat jets and the Rafale M aircraft from the Dwight Eisenhower and Charles de Gaulle aircraft carriers. Only during the past day, the coalition conducted 25 sorties, carrying out 21 strikes on Mosul and its suburbs,” Konashenkov noted.

In addition, “in Aleppo, Russia and the Syrian authorities organized six humanitarian corridors for civilians, who are ready to leave the city, but cannot do this because of mine-laying of the approaches and shelling by militants.”
“In Mosul, we hear about a forthcoming ‘storm’ of urban quarters, inhabited by civilians, with vague, but extremely worrying consequences due to massive victims,” Konashenkov said, adding that in this case “they [Americans] are not talking about any humanitarian corridors like the millionth city is inhabited only by terrorists.”

Also, the coalition declares an ‘iron ring’ in Mosul, while there still are 2 corridors for the exit of militants in Aleppo.

https://southfront.org/russian-defense-ministry-explained-radical-difference-between-aleppo-mosul/


Zerohedge tries to make sense of it ........

Unraveling The Aleppo / Mosul Riddle

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-20/



Now the coalition is killing Iraqi military ..... have I got it wrong ..... aren’t the US coalition and the Iraqi military supposed to be on the same side ? Oooops ...... it was just another mistake !!! :oops:

US-led Coalition Strikes Iraqi Military Base (AGAIN)

(..... and also October 5, late September 2015 , June 2015, May 2015 and March 29, 2015! It is becoming a habit!)

An Iraqi Army’s base in the province of Nineveh was struck by fighter jets of the US-led coalition, Deputy Chief of the Nineveh Provincial Council, Noureddin Qablan said. As result, several Iraqi soldiers were killed.

He also added that the attack was confirmed by the US Army, which called the incident a ‘mistake’.

“US fighter jets hit one of the military bases of the Iraqi Army’s 16th Division, located in the region to the north of Mosul, and the attack left four Iraqi soldiers dead,” Qablan announced.

https://southfront.org/us-led-coalition-strikes-iraqi-military-base-again/



With ‘partners’ like this you don’t need IS ..... on current performance the US coalition will wipe you out before you reach the battle field! :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:08 am

look, there is NOTHING the Russians can do and Pootin knows this very well. he knows that the rebels can't be defeated in Aleppo. they are all crawling underground and they have the support of local Sunnis.

Russia had more than 12 months to deal with it and failed and still the Syrians are too scared to enter East Aleppo and the Rebels have even taken territory lately.

And the clock is ticking. My advice to pootin is to get out while he can, to avoid further embarrassment. If he goes to the negotiating table, he can get what he wants (Syria) but we get what we want (assad).

otherwise, we are still gonna be talking about Aleppo long after Mosul is liberated which I believe will be much quicker than most people think. :D
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:02 am

Paphitis:
look, there is NOTHING the Russians can do and Pootin knows this very well. he knows that the rebels can't be defeated in Aleppo. they are all crawling underground and they have the support of local Sunnis.


You forget (conveniently) that these terrorists have massive support from the US coalition (supplying known terrorists is a crime). In the last few days these terrorists have killed many Syrians in Western Aleppo, using the 40-50 tonnes of arms supplied by the US. The terrorists are coming from the west side of government held Aleppo, not from the Eastern Aleppo.

Now I do realise that you will not have been aware of this as it has not been a headline in the Press, but it has been condemned by the UN. The gains the terrorists made initially have now been mainly retaken by government forces and the terrorists have lost hundreds of fighters and virtually all the armour and rocket launchers they had.

Today Assad/Russia are observing another cessation of hostilities, a humanitarian break to allow both terrorists and civilians to leave Easter Aleppo. I think you will then find that Government forces and their allies will, with assistance from the Syrian and Russian air forces, enter eastern Aleppo in force and exterminate what terrorists there are left.

Russia had more than 12 months to deal with it and failed and still the Syrians are too scared to enter East Aleppo and the Rebels have even taken territory lately.


It has taken them a long time for two reasons. a) a conscious effort to avoid as many civilian casualties as possible and b) because the terrorists have been resupplied with weapons by the US, every time a cease fire is put in place by Assad/Russia. The latest resupply a couple of weeks ago included TOW and MANPADS which are US made and supplied via Saudi Arabia.
And the clock is ticking. My advice to pootin is to get out while he can, to avoid further embarrassment. If he goes to the negotiating table, he can get what he wants (Syria) but we get what we want (assad).


In case you missed the news; Russia has just boosted its presence in the Eastern Med with their only air craft carrier and several support vessels. It would be pointless to do this if they were about to pull out .... be realistic! Russia may well accept some compromises as the US already have, but Assad will remain because there is no other alternative that the Syrian people will accept. He may not be a Mother Teresa figure but the Syrian people recognise he is a hell of a lot more preferable than the head chopping terrorists the US coalition supports and is trying to impose on the Syrian people. They wish to impose Sharia Law in what is a secular society.
otherwise, we are still gonna be talking about Aleppo long after Mosul is liberated which I believe will be much quicker than most people think.


Mosul has just started ..... Aleppo is just about to end and in a victory for Presidents Assad and Putin. In Mosul all you have achieved so far is to flatten many villages and probe into the outskirts of the city ..... in tanks, armoured cars, Humvees and APC’s with coalition air support in abundance.

The BBC are showing their correspondent daily ......... mostly filmed from a distance and from inside an armoured vehicle. The only time he got out .... he got shot at!

As for how long it will take for the Iraqi Army to retake Mosul ......... you obviously have access to information the Iraqi Army and their allies don’t have ..... they believe it will be many months before they could declare it ‘free’.

Some reality for you .....

The Tales of Bodies and Blood That Surround a Front Line in Syria

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45771.htm


A common sense interview with President Assad given to a Serbian Newspaper.......

United States and its Western allies are to blame for failure of latest ceasefire
[url]
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e45777.htm[/url]


An interview completely lacking in common sense ......... SKY with former NATO secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen

Ex-NATO Chief: We Need US As World's Policeman

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45772.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:09 am

oh dear oh drear. it's all our fault now that pootin has proven to be so useless! :roll:

Well ok then. but it was pootin doing all the posturing and you guys said you will have this all wrapped up by January 2016. Well that didn't happen. :lol:

and it isn't going to happen by January 2017 or 2018 or 2019.

And you have no evidence at all that we are supplying anyone. you just presume, and throw allegations around willy nilly. I don't doubt we are supplying them.

but Pootin asked for it and now he receiveth a good dose of reality. If he fucks around with us, we will fuck around with him and his criminal lapdog.

pootin is gonna have to do a lot better I'm afraid because we dictate the terms now and have him exactly where we want him. All the chooks are coming home to roost!

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:oh dear oh drear. it's all our fault now that pootin has proven to be so useless! :roll:

It has been 'your fault' since the US interfered with Syrias internal politics in 2004, when they encouraged and funded the so called colour revolution. YOU then declared a bunch of Islamic terrorists the 'official opposition' and gave them arms ........ hello ISIS!!! It was ONLY when Russia became involved that the progress of IS was halted. YOU had had 4 years to contain them and had achieved nothing.

Well ok then. but it was pootin doing all the posturing and you guys said you will have this all wrapped up by January 2016. Well that didn't happen. :lol:

Putin doesn't posture ..... he acts! Like now ..... have you seen him posturing and telling the world what he is going to do in Syria? Of course not ..... whilst the West could only speculate on what Russia intends, as Trump has pointed out, the US threatens, then tells the world of the terrible consequences if their commands are not met and what they can expect in retribution ! That's posturing.
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and it isn't going to happen by January 2017 or 2018 or 2019.

According to you the Iraqis would have Mosul wrapped up in a couple of weeks! Apart from the odd probe, even with almost unlimited air support from the US, they have yet to enter the suburbs and meet any real resistance. I will make a completely unfounded prediction, just a gut feeling, that most of Eastern Aleppo will fall before or shortly after next Tuesday. :wink:

And you have no evidence at all that we are supplying anyone. you just presume, and throw allegations around willy nilly. I don't doubt we are supplying them.

You are joking .... of course? Where do you think they get them from E-Bay, Amazon ? Why does the US keep wanting a ceasefire when the terrorists are up against it (running out of ammo) ? So that the Gulf States including Saudi, all I might add members of your coalition, can resupply them with weapons supplied by the US! That is why Kerry always wants at least seven days! Lets face it, it does not take that long to free the civilian population and/or supply them with food and medicine which Assad/Russia have been doing since 2012. That is, when they can get through the rockets, mortars and sniper fire.

but Pootin asked for it and now he receiveth a good dose of reality. If he fucks around with us, we will fuck around with him and his criminal lapdog.

Seeing as Russia has only been involved, by request from the legally recognised Syrian Government, for twelve months, they have achieved more than your coalition in at least four years,

I think you are being rather presumptive. Putin deals with it his way and demonstrates the success of his strategy and the US coalition has stayed well away from him. Any incursions have been tolerated provided they work in favour of Assad/Russia. But try attacking the Syrian army again and they will pin your ears back and kick you where it hurts.


pootin is gonna have to do a lot better I'm afraid because we dictate the terms now and have him exactly where we want him. All the chooks are coming home to roost!

He has done very well so far ..... in spite of all the efforts your coalition has made to prevent him. No .... it is Russia dictating the terms, not the US. Where do the US want him? Because at the moment he is sitting off shore with a small flotilla that the mighty US battle fleet could do sod all about ..... without starting WWIII .... and so it will remain.




Your argument is illogical ..... you live in cloud cuckoo land! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:19 pm

Check out this Propaganda from these UK based NGO's.

They should be and should have been doing this outside Westminster long ago.

What a bunch of political tools, clueless hypocrites.

https://www.rt.com/news/365327-russia-e ... k-protest/
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:55 pm

Maximus wrote:Check out this Propaganda from these UK based NGO's.

They should be and should have been doing this outside Westminster long ago.

What a bunch of political tools, clueless hypocrites.

https://www.rt.com/news/365327-russia-e ... k-protest/


As I told Paphitis, a good window into what normal people think is to read the comments after the article ! In this case the comments are just about 100% against the protestors and the UK Government for allowing it. I would bet that these idiots would have difficulty finding Syria on a world map let alone finding Aleppo ! :roll: :x
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Fri Nov 04, 2016 4:25 pm

Yes exactly,

Those commentators below the article and elsewhere (including some from here) are the good people in this world!

These "activists" are either seriously misinformed or paid for by the propaganda merchants.
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