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[Paphitis]

Well well well, Assad's War Crimes have encouraged new lows! This time, Turkish State Media have claimed to have killed 200 Kurdish Militia just north of Aleppo.

Russia and Turkey in a quagmire and sealing their fate.

But what else can you expect when the rule of law is out the window?

[miltiades]

"WE "
Paphitis, when will you realize that YOU are not in any way or shape involved in this wretched war. You personally have no more influence or say in what goes on in Syria than Lenie, my Mastiff dog.

You have exhibited thus far an exceedingly naïve position on the Syrian conflict. Each and everyone of us are merely observers , we do not dictate policy just as observers express opinions based on events.
You are consumed with hatred for Putin and you are driven by this potent force, hatred, and express views manifested not by realities but pure hatred.

War crimes are not only committed by one side, war is a dirty event, in wars people get killed. The only way to stop this is for the West to accept the legitimacy of the recognized government of Syria , stop its support of islamists, so called ...moderates and allow the Syrian people to decide on their future.

Look at Iraq , Lybia, Afghanistan, has the west helped in bringing either a totally non compatible democratic system or stability in these regions that can only be governed by dictators as they have always trough history have.

Your obsession is clearly displayed by your successive consecutive postings, detach your self , stand aside and look at the whole thing in an objective way as I and others do. I'm pro west, always have been but will not endorse actions that are blatantly wrong.

[miltiades]

Wise words spoken by The Secretary General of the global Caritas confederation, Michel Roy:

"But he insisted that “What the U.S. wants in the Middle East, what Russia wants in the Middle East is not for the good of the Middle Eastern people, it’s for their own interests and that has to stop”. Echoing the words of Pope Francis, Roy urged world leaders to “look at things in a different way” and work to bring the warring parties to the negotiating table for the good of all people in the region."
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/10 ... ct/1266411

[Lordo]

Wise words spoken by The Secretary General of the global Caritas confederation, Michel Roy:

"But he insisted that “What the U.S. wants in the Middle East, what Russia wants in the Middle East is not for the good of the Middle Eastern people, it’s for their own interests and that has to stop”. Echoing the words of Pope Francis, Roy urged world leaders to “look at things in a different way” and work to bring the warring parties to the negotiating table for the good of all people in the region."
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/10 ... ct/1266411

wise words indeed. but

when i suggested america should stop interfering in themiddle east you accused me of being an daesh supporter. so tell me reh batchoyero has somebody hit you on the head with an old matsa or somfink. not so long ago you were keen for america to spread peace all over the middle east while grabbing a piece of everybody.


so what changed your mind.

[miltiades]

Wise words spoken by The Secretary General of the global Caritas confederation, Michel Roy:

"But he insisted that “What the U.S. wants in the Middle East, what Russia wants in the Middle East is not for the good of the Middle Eastern people, it’s for their own interests and that has to stop”. Echoing the words of Pope Francis, Roy urged world leaders to “look at things in a different way” and work to bring the warring parties to the negotiating table for the good of all people in the region."
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/10 ... ct/1266411

wise words indeed. but

when i suggested america should stop interfering in themiddle east you accused me of being an daesh supporter. so tell me reh batchoyero has somebody hit you on the head with an old matsa or somfink. not so long ago you were keen for america to spread peace all over the middle east while grabbing a piece of everybody.


so what changed your mind.

Hi Stupid, I have never supported West's involvement in Syria. Go to page 15 of this thread and read my post of 2012.

[miltiades]

Re: The war against Syria
Postby Milti » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:56 am

Turkeys reaction to the Syrian shelling and the killing of 5 civilians was not excessive and understandable given the fact that every sovereign nation has an absolute right to defend its citizens and its territory. I hope that Turkey does not carry out the wishes of the West in this instance. Syria must be left alone to solve its own problems, Russia, in my opinion as well as China are absolutely right in not supporting the revolutionaries infested with Islamic extremists and Jihadis. The West is making a dreadful error in contributing financially to the revolutionaries aided and abated by extremist Islamists who come to Syria from all corners of the world.Stay out of Syria is the best option and the only option that the West should consider.
Back to Turkey and her undeniable right to defend its borders, lets hope that she may also realize the folly of her actions in invading and occupying a large part of a sovereign nation, our Cyprus.. Many nations are critical of Turkey and her hypocrisy in presenting herself as a defender of sovereignty whilst 40 thousand of her troops are occupying the northern parts of Cyprus.
The pseudo state she created and controls is a corrupt unrecognized entity, yet Turkey refuses to recognize the RoC which the entire world does. Its time for Turkey to realize that the 38 year occupation can not go on for ever, it damages her greatly in the eyes of the world, its bad for her economy and its detrimental to her ambitions to become a serious power in the ME.its also time for all Cypriots to embrace their true and only motherland, the island of Cyprus, the other two so called motherlands have brought us nothing but pain and suffering, propaganda and indoctrination. Cypriots stand up and swear alliance to our island, our beautiful sweet sunny Cyprus.

[Robin Hood]

This could explain why a ‘large’ Russian fleet, including their only aircraft carrier, The Kuznetzov is heading for the Eastern Med ?

The US-Turkey “Escape Corridor” out of Mosul: ISIS-Daesh Terrorists “Transferred” From Iraq into Syria To Fight Syrian, Russian and Iranian Forces

The Iraqi army started a large operation to liberate Mosul from Islamic State jihadists. But the forces, in total some 40,000, are still several dozen kilometers away from the city limits. They will have to capture several towns and villages and pass many IED obstacles before coming near to the center and house to house fighting. It might take many month to eliminated the last stay-behind ISIS cells in Mosul.

About one million civilians live in Mosul. Many, many more than in east-Aleppo. Many of them were sympathetic with the new overlords when ISIS stormed in two years ago. French, American, Kurdish, Iraqi and Turkish artillery are pounding them now. Airstrikes attack even the smallest fighting position. When the city will be conquered it will likely be destroyed. The imminent fight over Mosul might be the reason why John Kerry dialed down his hypocritical howling over east-Aleppo in Syria which is under attack from Syrian and Russian forces.

The attack on Mosul proceeds on three axes. From the north Kurdish Peshmerga under U.S. special force advisors lead the fighting. Iraqi forces attack from the east and south. The way to the west, towards Syria, is open. The intent of the U.S. is to let ISIS fighters, several thousand of them, flee to Deir Ezzor and Raqqa in Syria. They are needed there to further destroy the Syrian state.

We pointed out here that this move will create the “Salafist principality” the U.S. and its allies have striven to install in east-Syria since 2012. The “mistake” of the U.S. bombing of Syrian army positions in Deir Ezzor was in support of that plan. Other commentators finally catch up with that conclusion.

The U.S. military now acknowledges that fighting the Russian air defense in Syria would be a real challenge:
“It’s not like we’ve had any shoot at an F-35,” the official said of the next-generation U.S. fighter jet. “We’re not sure if any of our aircraft can defeat the S-300.”

There is a “no-fly zone” over west-Syria and it is the Russians who control it. All U.S. and Turkish talk about such a zone is moot. The Obama administration has for now also given up on other plans.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-us-turkey-escape-corridor-out-of-mosul-isis-daesh-terrorists-transferred-from-iraq-into-syria-to-fight-syrian-russian-and-iranian-forces/5551890

[Lordo]

Wise words spoken by The Secretary General of the global Caritas confederation, Michel Roy:

"But he insisted that “What the U.S. wants in the Middle East, what Russia wants in the Middle East is not for the good of the Middle Eastern people, it’s for their own interests and that has to stop”. Echoing the words of Pope Francis, Roy urged world leaders to “look at things in a different way” and work to bring the warring parties to the negotiating table for the good of all people in the region."
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/10 ... ct/1266411

wise words indeed. but

when i suggested america should stop interfering in themiddle east you accused me of being an daesh supporter. so tell me reh batchoyero has somebody hit you on the head with an old matsa or somfink. not so long ago you were keen for america to spread peace all over the middle east while grabbing a piece of everybody.


so what changed your mind.

Hi Stupid, I have never supported West's involvement in Syria. Go to page 15 of this thread and read my post of 2012.

you what, whoneeds toread your iditotic stupid remarks when one minute america can do no wrong and the next they are. like bafido you is one stupid batcho balyo yero.

[Robin Hood]

Off the thread I know, but relevant to the content.

This explains Paphitis' views and attitude ...... it is not his fault, he is but one of those easily deceived millions that never question ..... they just accept the ‘official’ word!

Australia, Tagging Along into Other Nations’ Wars - By James O’Neill - October 19, 2016

For a country relatively remote from the world’s trouble spots, Australia throughout its short history since European settlement in the late Eighteenth Century has shown a remarkable capacity to involve itself in other people’s wars. With the possible exception of Japan in World War II none of these wars have posed a threat to Australia’s national security.
In the 1850s, Australia provided troops on behalf of the British in the Crimean War at a time when few Australians would have been able to locate Crimea on a map. Ironically, Tony Abbott as Prime Minister this decade was willing to commit troops to Ukraine, again over Crimea.

But Australian knowledge of historical and geopolitical realities in Crimea appeared no greater in 2014 than in the 1850s. The major difference was the infinitely greater threat to Australia’s national security if such a foolhardy plan had occurred in 2014 and Australian troops had found themselves confronting Russian forces. (Read the full article.....)

As you have not provided any links to validate the credentials you claim in respect of your wife’s expertise on the subjects covered on this thread, I guess this is a fair description of such academic opinion? Is Paul Dibb your wife’s esteemed colleague ? It would explain why your wife is ‘bankrolled’ by the Government and you have the blinkered opinions you do!

The Pervasive ‘Group Think’

Academia is little better. The universities and the so-called “think tanks” rely heavily on subsidies from their American equivalents, or from Australian government departments committed to the government’s policies. There is an obvious reluctance to criticize, for example, American foreign policy when such criticism endangers funding sources, promotions, and comfortable sabbaticals in the U.S.

A recent example of the intellectual drivel that this can lead to was found in the recent publication of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute entitled “Why Russia is a Threat to the International Order,” authored by Paul Dibb, a former spymaster. It was an ill-informed discussion all too typical of what passes for foreign policy analysis. Not only did it demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of Russian strategic policy, it wholly accepted an American-centered view of the world.

In Dibb’s world, the Americans only act from the best of intentions and for the benefit of the people unfortunate enough to be the object of their attentions. Any analysis of the way U.S. foreign policy is actually practiced is air brushed from the reader’s attention. The treatment of Ukraine is instructive in this regard.

Dibb completely ignores the February 2014 American-organized and financed coup that removed the legitimate Yanukovich government from power. Dibb ignores the military agreement that provided for the stationing of Russian troops in Crimea; that Crimea had for centuries been part of Russia until Khrushchev “gifted” Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 (without consulting the Crimeans); the overwhelming support in two referenda to secede from Ukraine and apply to rejoin the Russian Federation; the discriminatory treatment of the largely Russian-speaking population of the Donbass region in Eastern Ukraine; and the Kiev regime’s systematic violation of the Minsk Accords designed to find a peaceable solution to the Ukrainian conflict.

Instead, he writes that Russia’s “invasion” and “annexation” of Crimea and its attempt through military means to detach the Donbass region in the eastern part of Ukraine have to be seen as a fundamental challenge to the post-war sanctity of Europe’s borders. Such historical revisionism and detachment from reality is unfortunately not confined to Dibb. It is all too common in the Australian media in all its forms.

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/19/australia-tagging-along-into-other-nations-wars/

[Paphitis]

Well it looks like the Iraqi Special forces are inside Mosul already with little resistence.

Expect a very quick end if things continue in this fashion. early days still, but all of our expectations have been exceeded enormously and confidence is high.

The DAESH leadership has fled Mosul from what we understand.

We folks, it looks like all of you have a lot of egg on your faces. now you are seeing how it's don'e properly without pissing off the entire Sunni population, some which undoubtedly support DAESH.

You need to be pretty desperate to support DAESH, but we actually recognize that our last Iraqi puppet was walking a fine line towards Assad style criminality against the Sunnis and we made some changes to unite the country of Iraq.

Whereas Syria will never be united ever again, for as long as Assad remains.

The world is watching folks. And the historians are writing our legacy.