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[Paphitis]

Two months back :


ANALYSIS
US-backed Syrian rebel group on verge of collapse
http://www.stripes.com/news/us-backed-s ... e-1.383853
"IRBID, Jordan — The main Western-backed Arab rebel group in Syria appears on the verge of collapse because of low morale, desertions, and distrust of its leaders by the rank and file, threatening U.S. efforts to put together a ground force capable of defeating the Islamic State and negotiating an end to the Syrian civil war."
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=406205

You are ....celebrating ...Victory!!! Your army General is capout! Capitchi

"“The lack of battlefield success has mitigated against them,” Ed Blanche, a Beirut-based member of London’s International Institute for Strategic Studies and an expert on Middle Eastern wars, said of the FSA. “They haven’t been getting significant (outside) support because they haven’t been showing results.”

Among other problems, Salabeh and others say, FSA fighters are losing faith in their own leaders.

“They regularly steal our salaries,” said Salabeh, who came to this city in northern Jordan after being wounded in battle and now intends to stay here. “We’re supposed to get $400 a month, but we only actually receive $100.”

Yep, victory is sweet.

Our Rebels are alive and kicking and will be present in all their glory at the Peace Talks and that is just and right because they are stakeholders in Syria and represent a significant portion of the Syrian Population.

The terrorists are those who tried to exterminate them but failed.

Victory is ours old man.

[Paphitis]

""After six months of intensive and concentrated Russian air strikes on pro-US rebels, the scales have tipped dramatically in favour of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad"

"Regardless of whether a ceasefire takes hold, any political settlement would reflect the current balance of power which favours Mr Assad."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35667082

The wet behind the ...bullocks General Plonker is ....celebrating ....victory !!
What a Plonker

I don't read these reports anymore old man, and there are many (which I have posted) which support a completely alternative view. For example, the Rebels are not cut off at all, and that was even stated by Pentagon Officials and Coalition Leaders. Secondly, DAESH has made gains at your expense and yet they were never attacked by Pootin. What is all that about?

Regardless, Pootin back-flipped so something clicked big time and we are in control of Aleppo.

So the siege has failed and we will be at the talks and once our guys are at the Turks, the game is up for Assad.

How quickly things change, or more to the point, the Pootin propaganda machine is marvelous. never seen anything like it since Hitler.

[Paphitis]

Rather than just spouting completely unsupported propaganda .........

The Russian-American Agreement on Syria? Yet Another Huge Victory For Russia

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44304.htm

Syria: A First Major Win Due To The Cessation of Hostilities Agreement

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44301.htm

Why Syrians Support President Bashar al Assad

Syria is the only secular country in the Middle East. This was established many decades ago, and when Pres. Assad came to office in summer of 2000 he maintained this form of government. The Syrian people have become very used to the secular nature of Syrian government, and social life. There are 18 different religious sects in Syria. The government and institutions are all secular and protect the rights of all Syrians. In Syria there is no ruling sect, all sects are represented throughout the government, Parliament and military.

Given the fact that Pres. Assad is the most highly educated President in the world, with a prestigious Medical degree from UK, they are collectively proud of his intelligence. They have also noted his balanced personality. They feel he is neither too soft, nor too hard. They see him as fair and balanced. He has shown them a great deal of patience and perseverance during almost 5 years of international attacks on Syria.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-syrians-support-president-bashar-al-assad/5510448

No propaganda! I only quote facts, verifiable facts.

You started with the expressed objective of exterminating the rebels and taking over Aleppo. We still have Aleppo, and there is a ceasefire.

Now, there are massive pushes to resume Peace Proximity Talks with the UN and our rebels will be there.

You failed!

I could have if I liked spouted a lot more. I have many reports of DAESH dealing some very decisive blows against the regime. I have other reports (from DAESH websites) that suggest they withdrew to make way to Assad Forces. What I do know is that Pootin NEVER bombed them.

What I also know is that the Rebels still have 2 supply lines - one to the West and another to the North East into Kurdish held territory.

As STUD correctly pointed out, your sources (which I have not read mind you) do not mention the fact that Assad is a sectarian leader of Alawites, and that he has been persecuting other Syrian Groups for decades. It is you pumping out the propaganda.

[Paphitis]

Of course Aleppo will start getting supplies for the people there as for the cease fire agreement, but the hunt for the ISIS in Aleppo will also continue and elsewhere. I don't know how you can declare victory and defeat for Assad/Putin?

There is no ISIS in Aleppo. ISIS is on the outskirts along with Assad's forces.

There is speculation as to who's side they are on. Pootin has not been attacking ISIS, only the SDF within Aleppo. Why is that?

Yes we will be sending the people and the rebels plenty of supplies and plenty of weapons!

Once you've gone to a ceasefire, the game is up I'm afraid. The extermination of the opposition is now a pipe dream. Which means, the rebels are stakeholders!

Now you are contradicting yourself, Paphitis.

Why does the "opposition" needed a ceasefire to be supplied with food and plenty of weapons if Aleppo was not under siege? If the supply route to Aleppo was always open, then there should be plenty of food and weapons already there, no?

because we won't have any restrictions on the movement of supplies and even be able to traverse Assad held areas without risk of Air Strike.

Our weapons will continue to arrive from the Kurdish Republic of Northern Syria.

[Kikapu]

Of course Aleppo will start getting supplies for the people there as for the cease fire agreement, but the hunt for the ISIS in Aleppo will also continue and elsewhere. I don't know how you can declare victory and defeat for Assad/Putin?

There is no ISIS in Aleppo. ISIS is on the outskirts along with Assad's forces.

There is speculation as to who's side they are on. Pootin has not been attacking ISIS, only the SDF within Aleppo. Why is that?

Yes we will be sending the people and the rebels plenty of supplies and plenty of weapons!

Once you've gone to a ceasefire, the game is up I'm afraid. The extermination of the opposition is now a pipe dream. Which means, the rebels are stakeholders!

Now you are contradicting yourself, Paphitis.

Why does the "opposition" needed a ceasefire to be supplied with food and plenty of weapons if Aleppo was not under siege? If the supply route to Aleppo was always open, then there should be plenty of food and weapons already there, no?

because we won't have any restrictions on the movement of supplies and even be able to traverse Assad held areas without risk of Air Strike.

Our weapons will continue to arrive from the Kurdish Republic of Northern Syria.

I'm sorry, but, you have lost me!

Not to worry, I'll just wait until the movie comes out that will explain everything!

[Paphitis]

Of course Aleppo will start getting supplies for the people there as for the cease fire agreement, but the hunt for the ISIS in Aleppo will also continue and elsewhere. I don't know how you can declare victory and defeat for Assad/Putin?

There is no ISIS in Aleppo. ISIS is on the outskirts along with Assad's forces.

There is speculation as to who's side they are on. Pootin has not been attacking ISIS, only the SDF within Aleppo. Why is that?

Yes we will be sending the people and the rebels plenty of supplies and plenty of weapons!

Once you've gone to a ceasefire, the game is up I'm afraid. The extermination of the opposition is now a pipe dream. Which means, the rebels are stakeholders!

Now you are contradicting yourself, Paphitis.

Why does the "opposition" needed a ceasefire to be supplied with food and plenty of weapons if Aleppo was not under siege? If the supply route to Aleppo was always open, then there should be plenty of food and weapons already there, no?

because we won't have any restrictions on the movement of supplies and even be able to traverse Assad held areas without risk of Air Strike.

Our weapons will continue to arrive from the Kurdish Republic of Northern Syria.

I'm sorry, but, you have lost me!

Not to worry, I'll just wait until the movie comes out that will explain everything!

Pootin has already made that movie and you bought it hook, line and sinker!

[miltiades]

Frankly I do ot know why anyone bothers to respond to this child, he personalised the war referring to WE and YOU when neither HE or WE are in any way involved in what is going on in Syria. We are merely observers , none of us has the minutest amount of influence as to the outcome of this sordid war that has the legitimate Syrian army opposing some hundred or so rebel groups.

All of us obtain news from the only sources available, the Press, TV ,Radio and general media. We digest the news and formulate our opinions using our own logic unlike this child who formulates his views based on HIS own war games.

So engrossed he is in childish war games that in spite of all developments in Syria he is ....celebrating victory !!

Its a waste of time for anyone to post supporting evidence that the Assad regime has the upper hand, he is oblivious to reality.

[Paphitis]

Frankly I do ot know why anyone bothers to respond to this child, he personalised the war referring to WE and YOU when neither HE or WE are in any way involved in what is going on in Syria. We are merely observers , none of us has the minutest amount of influence as to the outcome of this sordid war that has the legitimate Syrian army opposing some hundred or so rebel groups.

All of us obtain news from the only sources available, the Press, TV ,Radio and general media. We digest the news and formulate our opinions using our own logic unlike this child who formulates his views based on HIS own war games.

So engrossed he is in childish war games that in spite of all developments in Syria he is ....celebrating victory !!

Its a waste of time for anyone to post supporting evidence that the Assad regime has the upper hand, he is oblivious to reality.

No war games this end.

You want to know what the objective is?

It's ultimate peace, with a workable solution which includes most of the waring parties except any Al-Qaeda groups and DAESH of course.

That is what we are wanting.

You on the other hand made a fool of yourself when you were creaming your pants over the possible takeover of Aleppo, and presumably the extermination and mass murder of thousands of Rebel Supporters. And you were also supporting the mass persecution of millions of Sunnis, Kurds, and possibly Armenian, Druze, and Assyrian Syrians should Assad have been successful in his rampage.

That is what you support so get it right. It is in fact YOU who is the war monger.

Yes and we all know you take what you read in the media as gospel. I don't and never have. I know it is all rubbish and tell me old fart, have you really made heads or tails of it or really understood what is going on? I don't friggin think so.

Make no mistake about it. All these militant groups and their supporters will be thrashing it out at the table and that was our objective from the beginning. It wouldn't have happened if Assad was successful in exterminating them.

[miltiades]

Frankly I do ot know why anyone bothers to respond to this child, he personalised the war referring to WE and YOU when neither HE or WE are in any way involved in what is going on in Syria. We are merely observers , none of us has the minutest amount of influence as to the outcome of this sordid war that has the legitimate Syrian army opposing some hundred or so rebel groups.

All of us obtain news from the only sources available, the Press, TV ,Radio and general media. We digest the news and formulate our opinions using our own logic unlike this child who formulates his views based on HIS own war games.

So engrossed he is in childish war games that in spite of all developments in Syria he is ....celebrating victory !!

Its a waste of time for anyone to post supporting evidence that the Assad regime has the upper hand, he is oblivious to reality.

No war games this end.

You want to know what the objective is?

It's ultimate peace, with a workable solution which includes most of the waring parties except any Al-Qaeda groups and DAESH of course.

That is what we are wanting.

You on the other hand made a fool of yourself when you were creaming your pants over the possible takeover of Aleppo, and presumably the extermination and mass murder of thousands of Rebel Supporters. And you were also supporting the mass persecution of millions of Sunnis, Kurds, and possibly Armenian, Druze, and Assyrian Syrians should Assad have been successful in his rampage.

That is what you support so get it right. It is in fact YOU who is the war monger.

Yes and we all know you take what you read in the media as gospel. I don't and never have. I know it is all rubbish and tell me old fart, have you really made heads or tails of it or really understood what is going on? I don't friggin think so.

Make no mistake about it. All these militant groups and their supporters will be thrashing it out at the table and that was our objective from the beginning. It wouldn't have happened if Assad was successful in exterminating them.

You are therefore staunchly advocating that this 100 or even more rebel groups will mysteriously somehow come together " on defeating" Assad and form a government representative of all Syrians , and the war will then be over !!

Peace will return to Syria when the legitimate government of Syria with the support of Russia defeats the rebels, and they, the Syrian army , is almost there. The truce will NOT hold, there are far to numerous rebel groups, not forgetting Isis and unless they are all defeated there will never be peace. Get it in your childish head boy, Assad will survive and will continue as the president of Syria.

[Paphitis]

Frankly I do ot know why anyone bothers to respond to this child, he personalised the war referring to WE and YOU when neither HE or WE are in any way involved in what is going on in Syria. We are merely observers , none of us has the minutest amount of influence as to the outcome of this sordid war that has the legitimate Syrian army opposing some hundred or so rebel groups.

All of us obtain news from the only sources available, the Press, TV ,Radio and general media. We digest the news and formulate our opinions using our own logic unlike this child who formulates his views based on HIS own war games.

So engrossed he is in childish war games that in spite of all developments in Syria he is ....celebrating victory !!

Its a waste of time for anyone to post supporting evidence that the Assad regime has the upper hand, he is oblivious to reality.

No war games this end.

You want to know what the objective is?

It's ultimate peace, with a workable solution which includes most of the waring parties except any Al-Qaeda groups and DAESH of course.

That is what we are wanting.

You on the other hand made a fool of yourself when you were creaming your pants over the possible takeover of Aleppo, and presumably the extermination and mass murder of thousands of Rebel Supporters. And you were also supporting the mass persecution of millions of Sunnis, Kurds, and possibly Armenian, Druze, and Assyrian Syrians should Assad have been successful in his rampage.

That is what you support so get it right. It is in fact YOU who is the war monger.

Yes and we all know you take what you read in the media as gospel. I don't and never have. I know it is all rubbish and tell me old fart, have you really made heads or tails of it or really understood what is going on? I don't friggin think so.

Make no mistake about it. All these militant groups and their supporters will be thrashing it out at the table and that was our objective from the beginning. It wouldn't have happened if Assad was successful in exterminating them.

You are therefore staunchly advocating that this 100 or even more rebel groups will mysteriously somehow come together " on defeating" Assad and form a government representative of all Syrians , and the war will then be over !!

Many of the Rebel Groups have come together under the banner of The Syrian Democratic Forces.

There are also some Christian Militia among them. And yes, they have already achieved a decisive victory just by surviving and taking their rightful place at the talks.

Peace will return to Syria when the legitimate government of Syria with the support of Russia defeats the rebels, and they, the Syrian army , is almost there. The truce will NOT hold, there are far to numerous rebel groups, not forgetting Isis and unless they are all defeated there will never be peace. Get it in your childish head boy, Assad will survive and will continue as the president of Syria.

No that is where you are wrong. Peace will not return to Syria, and millions of Syrians will continue to migrate to Europe now since they have the opportunity to flee from assad.

You can't expect marginalised Syrians maintaining any long term peace in Syria. The powder keg will once again explode with another 250,000 to 500,000 Syrians being killed.

The only way forward is transition and ALL Syrians having their say. That is the only way out I'm afraid.