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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:31 am

Paphitis wrote:
Let's not get silly about this. They are not about to go out of their stronghold and commit suicide. The people of Aleppo are free to go if they wish, it is just that many have chosen to stay and if you go to the refugee camps, you will find that over 80% of Syrian Refugees are actually fleeing Assad, and most of the remainder are fleeing groups such as ISIS.


Refugees are fleeing bombings by the government and Russia for sure, but the bombing is taking place to destroy the terrorist who are hiding in cities where the people are. It's the old question as to what came first, the egg or the chicken!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:14 am

Below is just some of the comments made in 2013 by the very ....consistent GENERAL PLONKER !!!
PAGE 21
" Another thing that confuses me is the fact that the Rebels are backed by fundamentalist Islamists. Sometimes, it is better in helping regimes like Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak maintain their power to keep everything under tight control and peaceful.

"Simple fact is, some countries are just not ready for democracy and it is over rated anyway. Let's face it! Is the US, EU, or any other 'democracy' truly a democracy? Just because you get to cast your ballot does not mean you have a say. "

"Not just that, but now we can reject all the conspiracy theories because this deal proves that any potential US strike was about the Chemical Weapons and not regime change or destroying Syria and its military capability."
PAGE 39 WHAT ???
"What's the bet that the US will actually assist Assad to cling onto power at the rebels expense?"

PAGE 40
At the end of the day, Assads chemical weapons are history thanks to a Russia inspired agreement


Syria has too much to lose by doing this. It is not as if it can use its CW stockpiles from this point on. I think Assad is on a winner to be honest.
PAGE 47
Turkey will get smashed by Russia and the US will think twice.

PAGE 48 This is a classic
Turkey will be met with plenty of resistance if it invaded. The Syrian Military is quite capable and should give the Turks a real good run. Turkey is not as strong as the ill informed in Cyprus or Greece actually think.

And if Russia comes to Syria's aid, then Turkey would be toast and I really do not believe the US is going to have a war with Russia to save Turkey's bacon. The Americans are not stupid...just like the Russians were never going to come to Syria's aid if the US attacked them.

PAGE The ...turn around PAGE 54 SEPTEMBER 2013

So the question should be, how is Russia and Iran even going to have any impact at all if they do not cooperate with us and force that boofhead into peace talks? We control the airspace and decide what flies and what doesn't. :)
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As you can all see General Plonker has been ...consistent throughout :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:28 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Let's not get silly about this. They are not about to go out of their stronghold and commit suicide. The people of Aleppo are free to go if they wish, it is just that many have chosen to stay and if you go to the refugee camps, you will find that over 80% of Syrian Refugees are actually fleeing Assad, and most of the remainder are fleeing groups such as ISIS.


Refugees are fleeing bombings by the government and Russia for sure, but the bombing is taking place to destroy the terrorist who are hiding in cities where the people are. It's the old question as to what came first, the egg or the chicken!


The city is the safest place for them. Where do you want them to go? In the desert to fight against bombs dropped from 30,000FT?

Aleppo is their home. They are defending themselves, their homes and their country from a ruthless criminal tyrant.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:29 am

miltiades wrote:Below is just some of the comments made in 2013 by the very ....consistent GENERAL PLONKER !!!
PAGE 21
" Another thing that confuses me is the fact that the Rebels are backed by fundamentalist Islamists. Sometimes, it is better in helping regimes like Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak maintain their power to keep everything under tight control and peaceful.

"Simple fact is, some countries are just not ready for democracy and it is over rated anyway. Let's face it! Is the US, EU, or any other 'democracy' truly a democracy? Just because you get to cast your ballot does not mean you have a say. "

"Not just that, but now we can reject all the conspiracy theories because this deal proves that any potential US strike was about the Chemical Weapons and not regime change or destroying Syria and its military capability."
PAGE 39 WHAT ???
"What's the bet that the US will actually assist Assad to cling onto power at the rebels expense?"

PAGE 40
At the end of the day, Assads chemical weapons are history thanks to a Russia inspired agreement


Syria has too much to lose by doing this. It is not as if it can use its CW stockpiles from this point on. I think Assad is on a winner to be honest.
PAGE 47
Turkey will get smashed by Russia and the US will think twice.

PAGE 48 This is a classic
Turkey will be met with plenty of resistance if it invaded. The Syrian Military is quite capable and should give the Turks a real good run. Turkey is not as strong as the ill informed in Cyprus or Greece actually think.

And if Russia comes to Syria's aid, then Turkey would be toast and I really do not believe the US is going to have a war with Russia to save Turkey's bacon. The Americans are not stupid...just like the Russians were never going to come to Syria's aid if the US attacked them.

PAGE The ...turn around PAGE 54 SEPTEMBER 2013

So the question should be, how is Russia and Iran even going to have any impact at all if they do not cooperate with us and force that boofhead into peace talks? We control the airspace and decide what flies and what doesn't. :)
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As you can all see General Plonker has been ...consistent throughout :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ah selective quoting. Yes the Chemical Weapons were history because if you recall, the Coalition was about to bomb the shit out of Assad's forces until Pootin saw the writing on the wall and intervened to save his bum buddy!

Furthermore, as has been explained to you on many occasions, the Coalition was NEVER aligned with ANY rebel forces, and nor did the Coalition fund them in ANY way or supply them with weapons at ANY point. Not even the FSA. A close alliance was formed in mid 2015 after the Coalition had made it very clear to them that any war crime, use of chemical or biological weapons, the killing of innocent civilians, women of children or ANY alliance with Al Shabat, Al Nusra, DAESH or such like will raise serious red flags for us. So the Syrian Democratic Forces were formed, and we support the SDF and its Kurdish Allies.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:51 am

Did you not say a week or so ago that the Russian will shit them selves if Turkey sent in to Syria ground troops. Come on , you have been very inconsistent throughout. Very contradictory to Turkey becoming " toast" by the Russians.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:14 am

miltiades wrote:Did you not say a week or so ago that the Russian will shit them selves if Turkey sent in to Syria ground troops. Come on , you have been very inconsistent throughout. Very contradictory to Turkey becoming " toast" by the Russians.


They would shit themselves. But that isn't necessary now with this "ceasefire".

We have got what we wanted, for now.

We can now supply our allies with much needed food, clothing, clean water and sanitation, medicines, and weapons.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:15 am

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miltiades wrote:Did you not say a week or so ago that the Russian will shit them selves if Turkey sent in to Syria ground troops. Come on , you have been very inconsistent throughout. Very contradictory to Turkey becoming " toast" by the Russians.


They would shit themselves. But that isn't necessary now with this "ceasefire".

We have got what we wanted, for now.

We can now supply our allies with much needed food, clothing, clean water and sanitation, medicines, and weapons.

Aleppo is surrounded, supply lines have been severed and you are ....celebrating a ...victory :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:17 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Did you not say a week or so ago that the Russian will shit them selves if Turkey sent in to Syria ground troops. Come on , you have been very inconsistent throughout. Very contradictory to Turkey becoming " toast" by the Russians.


They would shit themselves. But that isn't necessary now with this "ceasefire".

We have got what we wanted, for now.

We can now supply our allies with much needed food, clothing, clean water and sanitation, medicines, and weapons.

Aleppo is surrounded, supply lines have been severed and you are ....celebrating a ...victory :lol:


know they haven't! That is just some of the bullshit you've been fed.

We have still to this day, at least one supply line open to us through Kurdish controlled territory to the North East and West of Aleppo.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:20 am

To make matters worse and rub salt into your seeping wounds, Assad Forces have lost all their supply lines into Aleppo as they have been taken over by DAESH.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/is ... to-aleppo/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/islamic-sta ... 1456170251

You've lost thew war! You've lost the war!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:31 am

Paphitis wrote:To make matters worse and rub salt into your seeping wounds, Assad Forces have lost all their supply lines into Aleppo as they have been taken over by DAESH.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/is ... to-aleppo/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/islamic-sta ... 1456170251

You've lost thew war! You've lost the war!

The mind boggles !
General, this not MY war, am merely an observer, Im not involved in this wretched war, Assad is not MY hero!!
I just comment on the war as I have done thru out !
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