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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:25 pm

Robin Hood wrote:The Spectator associate editor Peter Oborne wrote that the Syrian Army's victories in encircling the militant-controlled portions of the city are, in some ways, reminiscent of the liberation of the city of Stalingrad during the Second World War.

"When I returned to London," the journalist wrote, "I read in the newspapers that this turn of events [in Aleppo] was regarded as a calamity. Of course, it does depend on your point of view. Government-held Aleppo was under siege from jihadi forces until last year. That was never reported. Now the areas of Aleppo held by the rebels are coming under siege. That is reported in the western press as a catastrophe, and has brought a concerned response from the British Foreign Secretary."


http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160 ... z40oyBbAIw

Hopefully, Mr. Oborne's revelations about Allepoans' support for the government, about the composition of the jihadist forces occupying part of the city, and about much of the Western media's shameful support for the militants really will help not just Britons, but people all across Europe and North America understand 'who is who' in the war in Syria.


I somehow doubt it ........ if it isn’t in the Daily Mail! :roll:


This Peter Osborne appears a little too whacked out for my liking!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Oborne

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:27 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Lordo wrote:it is time to stop bombing syria you old fool. talk of getting things arse backwards. ffs you and that other old fool do not make half never mind one human being.


The bombing of the terrorist created by Turkey and US in the first place in Syria will continue by the Russians/Syrians. The bombing will continue until the terrorists who are against the state of Syria are either killed or that they return back to Turkey. Very simple.


Big statement there Kikapu. I expected much better from you.

Pootin is fighting with Hezbollah. these are terrorists. we have selected a few of the moderate elements in Syria - Sunni secularists, Sunni moderates, Kurds, Armenians, druze, Yazidi, Turkmen and even Greek (yes Greek) militants.

We do not have ISIS, Al Shabat, Al Nusra or any other Al Qaeda affiliates in our alliance.


I'm sorry Paphitis, but Turkey has ALL of the above, and since turkey is a coalition member in Syria and a member of NATO, then it effects the whole coaliton.

In everyone's definition of a terrorist, is a force fighting the government with the force of arms, and if not, we, US, UN and EU better start calling the PKK an "opposition" in Turkey and not a terrorist organization.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:30 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:it is time to stop bombing syria you old fool. talk of getting things arse backwards. ffs you and that other old fool do not make half never mind one human being.


The bombing of the terrorist created by Turkey and US in the first place in Syria will continue by the Russians/Syrians. The bombing will continue until the terrorists who are against the state of Syria are either killed or that they return back to Turkey. Very simple.


Big statement there Kikapu. I expected much better from you.

Pootin is fighting with Hezbollah. these are terrorists. we have selected a few of the moderate elements in Syria - Sunni secularists, Sunni moderates, Kurds, Armenians, druze, Yazidi, Turkmen and even Greek (yes Greek) militants.

We do not have ISIS, Al Shabat, Al Nusra or any other Al Qaeda affiliates in our alliance.


I'm sorry Paphitis, but Turkey has ALL of the above, and since turkey is a coalition member in Syria and a member of NATO, then it effects the whole coaliton.

In everyone's definition of a terrorist, is a force fighting the government with the force of arms, and if not, we, US, UN and EU better start calling the PKK an "opposition" in Turkey and not a terrorist organization.


Turkey has had a hand to play in the funding of various Militias as has Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait and even the USA (since 2015).

But certainly not DAESH!

Yes, the war is very complex. The Kurds are major allies. They are instrumental to the Coalitions allies. they are literally the most affective combat force against DAESH. Turkey, wants to attack them which means the Turks are at odds with Coalition policy in Syria.

The Assad is no longer a de jure Government. We do not recognize his authority over the Syrian people but merely an Alawite Community Leader. Assad is a terrorist for the non Alawite Syrian People.

Basically, Assad was a politically dead donkey long ago. Good luck with the resurrection of this dead corpse.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:29 pm

DNA testing has proved that the February 17 Ankara bomber was Abdulbaki Sömer, from the Kurdish militant TAK organization, and not Saleh Najjar, acting on behalf of the YPG, as the Turkish government had claimed.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... nladi.html
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:14 pm

I do not support any dictator, where ever he might be. I do not support Bashar al Assad but I support his continued leadership as he and only he can bring about a peaceful outcome in Syria and security to the Syrian people.

I stated way back, along with Paphitis, that sometimes is better to support regimes such as that of Assad because in my opinion there is no alternative no other choice but the continuation of the legitimate government regardless how ruthless it might be.

Bashar al-Assad: The Democratically Elected President of Syria
http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/20/basha ... -of-syria/

The Middle East is not ready yet, and not for another 100 years, to adopt democracy, simply their religion will not allow them.

The west initially supported and called for Assad to step down, now they have changed their tune, no longer does America or Britain insist on this preposterous idea.

The Syrian people are the only ones that can decide, not the USA, Britain, Al quida or any other group of fanatics.
Its time for the west to wake up, get out of Syria,Isil can only be defeated by the Syrian people supported by friendly nations.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:00 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:DNA testing has proved that the February 17 Ankara bomber was Abdulbaki Sömer, from the Kurdish militant TAK organization, and not Saleh Najjar, acting on behalf of the YPG, as the Turkish government had claimed.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... nladi.html

it was so obvious asshole davutoglu was telling lies, it is not possible to reach such a conclusion in such a short time
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:03 pm

miltiades wrote:I do not support any dictator, where ever he might be. I do not support Bashar al Assad but I support his continued leadership as he and only he can bring about a peaceful outcome in Syria and security to the Syrian people.

I stated way back, along with Paphitis, that sometimes is better to support regimes such as that of Assad because in my opinion there is no alternative no other choice but the continuation of the legitimate government regardless how ruthless it might be.

Bashar al-Assad: The Democratically Elected President of Syria
http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/20/basha ... -of-syria/

The Middle East is not ready yet, and not for another 100 years, to adopt democracy, simply their religion will not allow them.

The west initially supported and called for Assad to step down, now they have changed their tune, no longer does America or Britain insist on this preposterous idea.

The Syrian people are the only ones that can decide, not the USA, Britain, Al quida or any other group of fanatics.
Its time for the west to wake up, get out of Syria,Isil can only be defeated by the Syrian people supported by friendly nations.

any more stupid ideas from the old fool this evening. next thing he will claim is that he has converted to muslim and is expecting his allocation of 72 virgins when he dies.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:10 pm

Lordo wrote:
miltiades wrote:I do not support any dictator, where ever he might be. I do not support Bashar al Assad but I support his continued leadership as he and only he can bring about a peaceful outcome in Syria and security to the Syrian people.

I stated way back, along with Paphitis, that sometimes is better to support regimes such as that of Assad because in my opinion there is no alternative no other choice but the continuation of the legitimate government regardless how ruthless it might be.

Bashar al-Assad: The Democratically Elected President of Syria
http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/20/basha ... -of-syria/

The Middle East is not ready yet, and not for another 100 years, to adopt democracy, simply their religion will not allow them.

The west initially supported and called for Assad to step down, now they have changed their tune, no longer does America or Britain insist on this preposterous idea.

The Syrian people are the only ones that can decide, not the USA, Britain, Al quida or any other group of fanatics.
Its time for the west to wake up, get out of Syria,Isil can only be defeated by the Syrian people supported by friendly nations.

any more stupid ideas from the old fool this evening. next thing he will claim is that he has converted to muslim and is expecting his allocation of 72 virgins when he dies.

Why don't you cook me a Pork kebab :lol:
By the way, haven't seen you around for a long time, don't tell me that at 86 you are too bloody old to come out. Do you still hate the Jews as you much as you used to ? :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:40 am

Tim Drayton wrote:DNA testing has proved that the February 17 Ankara bomber was Abdulbaki Sömer, from the Kurdish militant TAK organization, and not Saleh Najjar, acting on behalf of the YPG, as the Turkish government had claimed.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/turk ... nladi.html


The truth comes out.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:41 am

miltiades wrote:I do not support any dictator, where ever he might be. I do not support Bashar al Assad but I support his continued leadership as he and only he can bring about a peaceful outcome in Syria and security to the Syrian people.

I stated way back, along with Paphitis, that sometimes is better to support regimes such as that of Assad because in my opinion there is no alternative no other choice but the continuation of the legitimate government regardless how ruthless it might be.

Bashar al-Assad: The Democratically Elected President of Syria
http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/20/basha ... -of-syria/

The Middle East is not ready yet, and not for another 100 years, to adopt democracy, simply their religion will not allow them.

The west initially supported and called for Assad to step down, now they have changed their tune, no longer does America or Britain insist on this preposterous idea.

The Syrian people are the only ones that can decide, not the USA, Britain, Al quida or any other group of fanatics.
Its time for the west to wake up, get out of Syria,Isil can only be defeated by the Syrian people supported by friendly nations.


Assad can't bring about peace, only war.

Peace is impossible with Assad in control. Only war is possible and even if there is a short peace, war will once again envelope the entire country in the future.

Assad has lost the war I'm afraid.
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