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[Paphitis]

" Apply a bit of common sense and ask yourself "

Common sense is def not something our General Plonker has

I just applied my common sense. Now tell me about yours. Why don't you start another poll about your common sense?

I am very happy about my common sense.

[miltiades]

" Apply a bit of common sense and ask yourself "

Common sense is def not something our General Plonker has

I just applied my common sense. Now tell me about yours. Why don't you start another poll about your common sense?

I am very happy about my common sense.

I see, so you now accept that YOUR troops will NOT assist the rebels in Aleppo which will shortly be in Assad's hands! You also conceited that YOU no longer insist on Assad departing, at least this is the Americans position, can you overlule that General
" US changes its tune on Syrian regime change as Isis threat takes top priority
Washington still hopes Bashar al-Assad will be removed from power, but is no longer insisting on it as a precondition for peace"

[Tim Drayton]

That is unless the secret deal I mentioned above in which Russia gets Syria and America gets Iraq is true - and the only evidence in its favour to my eyes is that it explains currents events on the ground - in which case the Assad regime will regain control over places like Aleppo in the rump Syria where Russia is to reestablish its puppet's dictatorship and forces like the Free Syrian Army will find they have been stabbed in the back by their former sponsor. We will just have to watch how it plays out, but I am not ruling out the possibility that the US will permit the regime to retake Aleppo even if some sort of fight is put up for show.

Yes we will see.

But I will remain positive in the belief that Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE will feel this betrayal.

I am hoping the rebels are assisted in shoring their positions to get them to the next peace summits and able to negotiate. If these people are stabbed in the back, they will only start another rebellion. There will be no peace in Syria.

I find it hard to believe there will be a Military Solution here even if Aleppo falls which is extremely difficult in itself. The rebels have had years to prepare and are now in possession of American Arms.

I wonder. Don't forget that the Stalinist regime of which Putin's Russia is more or less a continuation was able to keep monsters like Caucesceu in power through sheer terror for decades and was happy to send the tanks in to brutally crush rebellions in Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968, so I think they will also be able to keep the Assad dynasty going using similar means. Of course, there will always be dissidents and rebellion may eventually succeed, just as Caucesceu got his just rewards at the hands of a group of the people who had suffered his oppression for years.

[Paphitis]

" Apply a bit of common sense and ask yourself "

Common sense is def not something our General Plonker has

I just applied my common sense. Now tell me about yours. Why don't you start another poll about your common sense?

I am very happy about my common sense.

I see, so you now accept that YOUR troops will NOT assist the rebels in Aleppo which will shortly be in Assad's hands! You also conceited that YOU no longer insist on Assad departing, at least this is the Americans position, can you overlule that General
" US changes its tune on Syrian regime change as Isis threat takes top priority
Washington still hopes Bashar al-Assad will be removed from power, but is no longer insisting on it as a precondition for peace"

No I do not accept that at all. It's only a matter of time, and all you need is a score settling Bush and you will have American Troops in Damascus and Syria will be under occupation.

I wouldn't hold your breath sunshine because the entire Arab World is jumping up and down and demanding the Coalition intervene. They have all the black gold too so it's not as if they have no influence. All they have to do is sponsor one of the Republicans all the way to the White House and the Saudis will even have the USA as their puppet and not the other way round. They can buy the US Presidency if they want!

How do you like that old fart? Do you think the Sauds might be the puppeteer and the USA the puppet?

[Paphitis]

That is unless the secret deal I mentioned above in which Russia gets Syria and America gets Iraq is true - and the only evidence in its favour to my eyes is that it explains currents events on the ground - in which case the Assad regime will regain control over places like Aleppo in the rump Syria where Russia is to reestablish its puppet's dictatorship and forces like the Free Syrian Army will find they have been stabbed in the back by their former sponsor. We will just have to watch how it plays out, but I am not ruling out the possibility that the US will permit the regime to retake Aleppo even if some sort of fight is put up for show.

Yes we will see.

But I will remain positive in the belief that Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE will feel this betrayal.

I am hoping the rebels are assisted in shoring their positions to get them to the next peace summits and able to negotiate. If these people are stabbed in the back, they will only start another rebellion. There will be no peace in Syria.

I find it hard to believe there will be a Military Solution here even if Aleppo falls which is extremely difficult in itself. The rebels have had years to prepare and are now in possession of American Arms.

I wonder. Don't forget that the Stalinist regime of which Putin's Russia is more or less a continuation was able to keep monsters like Caucesceu in power through sheer terror for decades and was happy to send the tanks in to brutally crush rebellions in Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968, so I think they will also be able to keep the Assad dynasty going using similar means. Of course, there will always be dissidents and rebellion may eventually succeed, just as Caucesceu got his just rewards at the hands of a group of the people who had suffered his oppression for years.

Yes I agree. But back then, the USSR was a formidable enemy. A superpower.

Pootin is only a formidable enemy to a middle power like Turkey. They are no where near as formidable against the American Military machine, let alone NATO and other allies in top of that.

[miltiades]

" Apply a bit of common sense and ask yourself "

Common sense is def not something our General Plonker has

I just applied my common sense. Now tell me about yours. Why don't you start another poll about your common sense?

I am very happy about my common sense.

I see, so you now accept that YOUR troops will NOT assist the rebels in Aleppo which will shortly be in Assad's hands! You also conceited that YOU no longer insist on Assad departing, at least this is the Americans position, can you overlule that General
" US changes its tune on Syrian regime change as Isis threat takes top priority
Washington still hopes Bashar al-Assad will be removed from power, but is no longer insisting on it as a precondition for peace"

No I do not accept that at all. It's only a matter of time, and all you need is a score settling Bush and you will have American Troops in Damascus and Syria will be under occupation.

I wouldn't hold your breath sunshine because the entire Arab World is jumping up and down and demanding the Coalition intervene. They have all the black gold too so it's not as if they have no influence. All they have to do is sponsor one of the Republicans all the way to the White House and the Saudis will even have the USA as their puppet and not the other way round. They can buy the US Presidency if they want!

How do you like that old fart? Do you think the Sauds might be the puppeteer and the USA the puppet?

A ...masterpiece
Bush for President then !!!
Just keep to playing toy soldiers son
Just occured to me , American Pres Elections are in November, enough time for the Syrian army to be in Raqqa.

[miltiades]

I couldnt have put it better my self:
"The large reality is that US options have been severely cut short by Russia’s military involvement in Syria. Any notion of a western-protected “no-fly zone” in northern Syria, aimed at creating a safe haven for civilians and rebels alike, has been made all but impossible. Such a thing could have made sense earlier in the war, but at this stage it would mean risking a wider military confrontation with Russia – which the Obama administration understandably cannot contemplate. What is unfolding in Aleppo may soon resemble the siege of Sarajevo in the 1990s – only this time with no relief in sight, and with much wider refugee consequences, including in Europe. If ever there was a symbol of western failure in Syria, this is it. Aleppo is already a stain on the UN. Now it is a stain on the record of the US administration too, however well intentioned it wanted to appear."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -the-world

[Paphitis]

" Apply a bit of common sense and ask yourself "

Common sense is def not something our General Plonker has

I just applied my common sense. Now tell me about yours. Why don't you start another poll about your common sense?

I am very happy about my common sense.

I see, so you now accept that YOUR troops will NOT assist the rebels in Aleppo which will shortly be in Assad's hands! You also conceited that YOU no longer insist on Assad departing, at least this is the Americans position, can you overlule that General
" US changes its tune on Syrian regime change as Isis threat takes top priority
Washington still hopes Bashar al-Assad will be removed from power, but is no longer insisting on it as a precondition for peace"

No I do not accept that at all. It's only a matter of time, and all you need is a score settling Bush and you will have American Troops in Damascus and Syria will be under occupation.

I wouldn't hold your breath sunshine because the entire Arab World is jumping up and down and demanding the Coalition intervene. They have all the black gold too so it's not as if they have no influence. All they have to do is sponsor one of the Republicans all the way to the White House and the Saudis will even have the USA as their puppet and not the other way round. They can buy the US Presidency if they want!

How do you like that old fart? Do you think the Sauds might be the puppeteer and the USA the puppet?

A ...masterpiece
Bush for President then !!!
Just keep to playing toy soldiers son
Just occured to me , American Pres Elections are in November, enough time for the Syrian army to be in Raqqa.

Yes someone like Bush silly old fart. It could be Cruz, or Rubio. The result is the same.

You will have all the old guard back in office and they will probably start a war in the next 4 years. What you think this is just going to die down. You're dreaming old fart!

[Paphitis]

I couldnt have put it better my self:
"The large reality is that US options have been severely cut short by Russia’s military involvement in Syria. Any notion of a western-protected “no-fly zone” in northern Syria, aimed at creating a safe haven for civilians and rebels alike, has been made all but impossible. Such a thing could have made sense earlier in the war, but at this stage it would mean risking a wider military confrontation with Russia – which the Obama administration understandably cannot contemplate. What is unfolding in Aleppo may soon resemble the siege of Sarajevo in the 1990s – only this time with no relief in sight, and with much wider refugee consequences, including in Europe. If ever there was a symbol of western failure in Syria, this is it. Aleppo is already a stain on the UN. Now it is a stain on the record of the US administration too, however well intentioned it wanted to appear."
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -the-world

Are you joking. Of course you can't put it better yourself. You are incapable of communication and chat. All you do is slew vitriolic nonsense. It's always the wine talking. If I ever have the displeasure of meeting you in person I can't promise you that I will not hurt you. Someone should have knocked some sense into you a long time ago. Pity your Father in Law is not alive. If I was in his shoes, I would toss you in the rubbish where you belong!

Oh and you like that do you? You like that it is "impossible" for a no fly zone to protect rebels and civilians.

You should be ashamed of yourself!

A no fly zone was an option a few months ago and could easily be established but there was no leadership and we couldn't work out where Lootin was coming from to begin with. In the start we actually thought he might help us with DAESH but that was all bullshit and lies.

You can't trust Pootin as far as you can piss, which admittedly is not too far in your case!

[miltiades]

[[/quote]

Yes someone like Bush silly old fart. It could be Cruz, or Rubio. The result is the same.

You will have all the old guard back in office and they will probably start a war in the next 4 years. What you think this is just going to die down. You're dreaming old fart![/quote]

You may then achieve your dream of a third WW !!
By the way, you left Donald out