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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby boulio » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:23 am

Vp what areas would be included if a agreeent came along ?i assume that the green line and sba are not in your calculation and do you think tc and turkish leadership would agree to this?
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby boulio » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:54 am

No gr i work in nyc at the greek orthodox archdiocese with many cypriots who were real refugees in there 20 and 30 at the time who we discuss this issue many times over.they want to move on and many of them and there children dont have attachmentwith the north any more they just want closure and to move on.there not keyboard warriors that pull 40 year old un resolutions out of there ass that no one enforces and live at the expense of others .gr were are you gfrom in cyprus or do you even live there?
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby Kikapu » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:what does 12% APPLY TO:

a)total land area of ROC
B)TOTAL LAND AREA UNDER OCCUPATION


Return to the south state so the north state is reduced to 25% from 37%.


I'm sure the GCs are tripping (not) all over themselves in a rush to accept your "generous" offer before you change your mind! :lol:

You should listen to what our good friend Pyro so eloquently said, that any talk of official partitioning of Cyprus, is going to be VERY expensive for the TCs and Turkey. :wink:

I said the same thing to you in my own way really, by stating that, you will need to do a lot of bending over and would need to use of a lot of Vaseline. :lol:
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby Kikapu » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:39 pm

boulio wrote:what does 12% APPLY TO:

a)total land area of ROC
B)TOTAL LAND AREA UNDER OCCUPATION


I was under ther impression given by VP, that you two had already agreed on the terms of official partitioning of Cyprus. :wink:

Perhaps VP was prematurely climaxing again. :wink:

Is not the first time! :lol:
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby boulio » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:27 pm

i never agreed to anything im just talking with him if anything the number would need to be closer to about 20% of total land.
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby B25 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:09 pm

boulio wrote:i never agreed to anything im just talking with him if anything the number would need to be closer to about 20% of total land.


You mean the number would be closer to all of it, me thinks and they can live like any other minority everywhere else on the planet. We will not be signing anything away, period.
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:02 pm

boulio wrote:i never agreed to anything im just talking with him if anything the number would need to be closer to about 20% of total land.


I like kikapoo thought we had agreed a 25% 75% split put forward by you.
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby boulio » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:57 pm

were do we agree?im just asking questions to see what the other sides tolerance would be if it would come to a agreed partition.i told you in another post that percentage wise the t/c should be closer to 20% based on the following numbers:

12%-t/c private land
8%- of govt land(based on 30 % aprticipation in the executive 30%*26% of govt land)

the real number in a greed partition would need to be based on what percentage of govt land the t/c will get.is it
18%(population)
30%(pariticipation in the govt)
50%(t/c theory of equal partnership)

or something in the middle
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:01 pm

boulio wrote:were do we agree?im just asking questions to see what the other sides tolerance would be if it would come to a agreed partition.i told you in another post that percentage wise the t/c should be closer to 20% based on the following numbers:

12%-t/c private land
8%- of govt land(based on 30 % aprticipation in the executive 30%*26% of govt land)

the real number in a greed partition would need to be based on what percentage of govt land the t/c will get.is it
18%(population)
30%(pariticipation in the govt)
50%(t/c theory of equal partnership)

or something in the middle


Imho the ideology is more important at this stage....as once everyone accepts agreed partition people will be more flexible on the % issue as the benefits will also come into play.
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Re: CF a real reflection of the Cyprus Dispute?

Postby boulio » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:05 pm

in a hypothetical solution either a true federation or a agreed partition the more land given back the easier to pass.also from a t/c perspective if the solution is a agreed partition the motivation will be true recognition.
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