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[B25]

boulio you have finally arrived at the point were you agree with me that partition is the only way both sides can put the Cyprus issue to bed once and for all and move on. As for Turkey it can do what it wants I dont really care as if you dont know my opinion about Turkey and the EU I will repeat it once again Turkey is not an EU nation it will not or cannot enter the EU, to big, to poor, look at the numbers of nations sucking on the teats of the EU they dont need another member state who is a taker, the currently very shaky EU it will collapse.

So why not withdraw your application and sod off, instead of feeding off the EU handouts. Greedy, ungrateful little parasites, typical turk, huh?

This is my personal opinion you worthless scum bag.

Yeah, yeah, little ungrateful parasite. Go suck on mama for once. Arsehole.

FUCK OFF

Yes I expect as much. Typical Turk, can't get your own way, kill, murder, rape slaughter, insult. Turkish pig.

[Pyrpolizer]

Definately the future Pyro, once the current talks stop Turkey will move to return land, opening of her ports for recognition.

Do you think the GCs would accept? have the understood that we will never find a solution?

Partition and signing away a part of your own Country is NOT a solution for the Kypreoi.
It's one thing to have the matter pending (with zero prospects in the near future) and another to sign it away. Furthermore not even the UN or any of the superpowers have any legal or other right to officially propose such a thing, let aside the Kypreoi or the RoC president or urkey or your local regime. They would be ridiculed immediately.

You with Turkey and the Ango-Americans can only push the Kypreoi to accept it, AFTER you have returned a Substantial percentage of land both area-wise and value-wise. You may end up to only some 12-15% given the fact that the land at the North was 70% of Cyprus' economic resource before 1974. The price for partition is TOO HIGH, I already told you that many times.

[Viewpoint]

What if we are willing to pay that price to bring this issue to close once and for all, the deal is land for recognition % are just formalities if the ideology is acceptable to all. (The % can be put before an international committee with expertise to settle the land disputes)

You dont seem to take into account what your partners want just what the GC want.

[Piratis]

the deal is land for recognition % are just formalities if the ideology is acceptable to all

No viewpoint. % of land returned is not a formality but the essence. If it is a formality for you and you don't care about the %, then give us 98% back, keep the 2% and lets get over with it.

[Viewpoint]

the deal is land for recognition % are just formalities if the ideology is acceptable to all

No viewpoint. % of land returned is not a formality but the essence. If it is a formality for you and you don't care about the %, then give us 98% back, keep the 2% and lets get over with it.

You obviously didnt read the whole post we would leave that to international experts but we both have to accept the outcome.

[bill cobbett]

What if we are willing to pay that price to bring this issue to close once and for all, the deal is land for recognition % are just formalities if the ideology is acceptable to all. (The % can be put before an international committee with expertise to settle the land disputes)

You dont seem to take into account what your partners want just what the GC want.

Hang on a minute VP... if, as you want, you walk away from past agreements that include a BBF settlement, then everything reverts to international norms, including any notion of "equal communities" or as you say "partners" cos there are no longer any agreements to be "partners" in.

Walk away from the table and abandon the past agreements by pushing for such things as "Taiwanisation" then things revert to an situation making past agreements null and void and the matter of self-determination for CY, the normal international standard, without the "equal communities"/ "equal partners" that form a part of the agreements you intend to walk away from, becomes one for a simple majority vote.

[Piratis]

the deal is land for recognition % are just formalities if the ideology is acceptable to all

No viewpoint. % of land returned is not a formality but the essence. If it is a formality for you and you don't care about the %, then give us 98% back, keep the 2% and lets get over with it.

You obviously didnt read the whole post we would leave that to international experts but we both have to accept the outcome.

There are no "experts" in dividing countries VP. Besides, if you don't like what the "experts" will say, you will simply not accept it. Just like you refused to obey every UN resolution that didn't suit you.

Please understand that we can not be tricked. If you are serious then make an offer with a % of land returned that might entice a majority of GCs to accept your proposal. Otherwise stop wasting our time with this.

[Viewpoint]

What if we are willing to pay that price to bring this issue to close once and for all, the deal is land for recognition % are just formalities if the ideology is acceptable to all. (The % can be put before an international committee with expertise to settle the land disputes)

You dont seem to take into account what your partners want just what the GC want.

Hang on a minute VP... if, as you want, you walk away from past agreements that include a BBF settlement, then everything reverts to international norms, including any notion of "equal communities" or as you say "partners" cos there are no longer any agreements to be "partners" in.

Walk away from the table and abandon the past agreements by pushing for such things as "Taiwanisation" then things revert to an situation making past agreements null and void and the matter of self-determination for CY, the normal international standard, without the "equal communities"/ "equal partners" that form a part of the agreements you intend to walk away from, becomes one for a simple majority vote.

Please be more specific.

[Viewpoint]

the deal is land for recognition % are just formalities if the ideology is acceptable to all

No viewpoint. % of land returned is not a formality but the essence. If it is a formality for you and you don't care about the %, then give us 98% back, keep the 2% and lets get over with it.

You obviously didnt read the whole post we would leave that to international experts but we both have to accept the outcome.

There are no "experts" in dividing countries VP. Besides, if you don't like what the "experts" will say, you will simply not accept it. Just like you refused to obey every UN resolution that didn't suit you.

Please understand that we can not be tricked. If you are serious then make an offer with a % of land returned that might entice a majority of GCs to accept your proposal. Otherwise stop wasting our time with this.

Return of 12% land.

[humanist]

People remember you cannot talk about the Cypro and negotiate with a Turk . He is not even representative of 1/3 of TC's.