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[ZoC]

It is apparent that they are not very bright at all.

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[Get Real!]

Agreed partition for land appears to be the only way forward which imo both sides should start to contemplate...

So what exactly is that SUPER INCENTIVE for the Republic of Cyprus that would make them take your ridiculous “agreed partition” idea seriously?

Reduction of the north to 25% in return for recognition of the TRNC.

This should be negotiated the Ottoman way!

20% is MAX and the Republic retains the right to invade and occupy that territory if, when, and how it sees fit for the next 500 years in black & white, stamped, signed, and sealed by all and sundry!

On top of that we demand:

1. 2,000 virgins
2. 100 tons of grain
3. 50 tons of tobacco
4. 10 tons of pure hashish… (the good stuff, you know the one you’ve been hiding for export)

Also, during the first 10 years the “TC State” must pay…

1. A tribute of $100,000 p/annum.
2. A royalty of 15% of all income derived from this state.
3. A further 5% of goodwill damages.

And finally, all the above are non-negotiable!

Now Tokka and start sending the virgins!

[joe]

CF is by no means a real reflection of the Cyprus Problem, because, except me and a few others, most people here are bloody foreigners!

Quite right. Well said, Kurupetos.

[Viewpoint]

Can you tell us VP how you come up with 25%,is it with a analysis or did you just come up with it?
Further will it be a new country in the north or a province of turkey?
If a new country will the new country except that the roc is succesor to all she has ie un seat,eu etc
Will turkey and this new state agree under un laws the roc continetal shelf and eez?

Back to the territory issue thru my valcultions based on the british land registry the breakdown is as follows:

61% gc land
12% tc land
26 % govt land
1% church

From my calculation the only way to come to 25 % is if govt land is split 50% why shoulf that be when you were 18% population and when in the govt of 1960 the tc had 30% representation in the parliment ?

I think a fairer solution would be 78-22 % split

The remaining 3% is related to Evkaf land but this i am certain can be negotiated to find a middle ground and agree the land distribution. The important issue here to that you have accepted that we cannot and will never find a solution to unite and that agreed partition is the only and best way to solve the Cyprus issue once and for all.

The TRNC will be a new worldwide recognized country.

The TRNC will not be in the EU.

Well done for seeing and accepting reality.

[ZoC]

Can you tell us VP how you come up with 25%,is it with a analysis or did you just come up with it?
Further will it be a new country in the north or a province of turkey?
If a new country will the new country except that the roc is succesor to all she has ie un seat,eu etc
Will turkey and this new state agree under un laws the roc continetal shelf and eez?

Back to the territory issue thru my valcultions based on the british land registry the breakdown is as follows:

61% gc land
12% tc land
26 % govt land
1% church

From my calculation the only way to come to 25 % is if govt land is split 50% why shoulf that be when you were 18% population and when in the govt of 1960 the tc had 30% representation in the parliment ?

I think a fairer solution would be 78-22 % split

The remaining 3% is related to Evkaf land but this i am certain can be negotiated to find a middle ground and agree the land distribution. The important issue here to that you have accepted that we cannot and will never find a solution to unite and that agreed partition is the only and best way to solve the Cyprus issue once and for all.

The TRNC will be a new worldwide recognized country.

The TRNC will not be in the EU.

Well done for seeing and accepting reality.

here's my reality, u cock suckers.
greeks & turks carving up cyprus between them can go fuck themselves!

[ZoC]

CF is by no means a real reflection of the Cyprus Problem, because, except me and a few others, most people here are bloody foreigners!

Quite right. Well said, Kurupetos.

quite right. tweedle dum and tweedle dummer (above) are the real reflection of the cyprus problem. well said, joe/k.

[Viewpoint]

Can you tell us VP how you come up with 25%,is it with a analysis or did you just come up with it?
Further will it be a new country in the north or a province of turkey?
If a new country will the new country except that the roc is succesor to all she has ie un seat,eu etc
Will turkey and this new state agree under un laws the roc continetal shelf and eez?

Back to the territory issue thru my valcultions based on the british land registry the breakdown is as follows:

61% gc land
12% tc land
26 % govt land
1% church

From my calculation the only way to come to 25 % is if govt land is split 50% why shoulf that be when you were 18% population and when in the govt of 1960 the tc had 30% representation in the parliment ?

I think a fairer solution would be 78-22 % split

The remaining 3% is related to Evkaf land but this i am certain can be negotiated to find a middle ground and agree the land distribution. The important issue here to that you have accepted that we cannot and will never find a solution to unite and that agreed partition is the only and best way to solve the Cyprus issue once and for all.

The TRNC will be a new worldwide recognized country.

The TRNC will not be in the EU.

Well done for seeing and accepting reality.

here's my reality, u cock suckers.
greeks & turks carving up cyprus between them can go fuck themselves!

Admin it appears this type of verbal abuse is allowed, in that case zoc FUCK OFF.

[Kikapu]

Can you tell us VP how you come up with 25%,is it with a analysis or did you just come up with it?
Further will it be a new country in the north or a province of turkey?
If a new country will the new country except that the roc is succesor to all she has ie un seat,eu etc
Will turkey and this new state agree under un laws the roc continetal shelf and eez?

Back to the territory issue thru my valcultions based on the british land registry the breakdown is as follows:

61% gc land
12% tc land
26 % govt land
1% church

From my calculation the only way to come to 25 % is if govt land is split 50% why shoulf that be when you were 18% population and when in the govt of 1960 the tc had 30% representation in the parliment ?

I think a fairer solution would be 78-22 % split

The remaining 3% is related to Evkaf land but this i am certain can be negotiated to find a middle ground and agree the land distribution. The important issue here to that you have accepted that we cannot and will never find a solution to unite and that agreed partition is the only and best way to solve the Cyprus issue once and for all.

The TRNC will be a new worldwide recognized country.

The TRNC will not be in the EU.

Well done for seeing and accepting reality.

You are asking the wrong people (GC's) to agree to something (land for recognition) when you should be asking the TCs and Turkey for such a deal, and to what it would mean for them to agree to such a deal and under the conditions that will be asked by the GCs for such a deal, and that's without getting into your silly land percentages that you would want.

Lets start with these condition in what the GCs would want the TCs and Turkey to agree to, in order to achieve "Land for Recognition" for the north. Lets see how willing they will be to support your position. I doubt they will.

1. Only approx 5% of Government land would go to the north, based on 18%-82% split of 1960 population of Cyprus, of the 26% Government land that will divided, which will bring the land size for the north to be 17%. Denktash and Küçük sold most of the Evkaf land to the British for £1.5 million GBP, therefore the most land the north would have would be 18%, which bis 50% less than what it is today.

2. The north and Turkey will be vetoed from ever joining the EU.

3. There will be no longer any Turkish Cypriots in the RoC as a community, but only as citizens of Cyprus who happen to speak Turkish as their main language, much like the Spanish , Chinese, Japanese etc etc etc speaking citizens in the USA, and that the official language of the RoC will be Greek. Any TCs who does not wishes to accept this, will no longer be considered a citizen of Cyprus and that they will be stripped of their RoC citizenship and also stripped off their EU citizenship, unless they are EU citizens from another EU member state, such as the UK. Visa will be required by the north to travel to the RoC, exceptions for those with EU citizenship.

4. ALL services by the RoC will be stopped to ALL those who are no longer RoC citizens or EU citizens, except for pensions owed from the past.

5. ALL natural resources found in the new RoC's (82%) EEZ will belong solely to the RoC. Anything found in the north's 18% EEZ will belong to the north. Much like Haiti and Dominican Republic who both share the same island, but as separate countries, independent from each other, therefore, each have their own EEZ's.

6. The RoC will allow any country to station a military base on it's 82% territory.

These are few that comes to mind right now. I don't care that you will accept these condition for partition, because you are irrelevant. Give me an acceptance report for these above conditions by the TCs and Turkey and than come back here and ask for "Land for Recognition", otherwise you are such waisting every ones time as usual with your provocative propaganda..

[Viewpoint]

Can you tell us VP how you come up with 25%,is it with a analysis or did you just come up with it?
Further will it be a new country in the north or a province of turkey?
If a new country will the new country except that the roc is succesor to all she has ie un seat,eu etc
Will turkey and this new state agree under un laws the roc continetal shelf and eez?

Back to the territory issue thru my valcultions based on the british land registry the breakdown is as follows:

61% gc land
12% tc land
26 % govt land
1% church

From my calculation the only way to come to 25 % is if govt land is split 50% why shoulf that be when you were 18% population and when in the govt of 1960 the tc had 30% representation in the parliment ?

I think a fairer solution would be 78-22 % split

The remaining 3% is related to Evkaf land but this i am certain can be negotiated to find a middle ground and agree the land distribution. The important issue here to that you have accepted that we cannot and will never find a solution to unite and that agreed partition is the only and best way to solve the Cyprus issue once and for all.

The TRNC will be a new worldwide recognized country.

The TRNC will not be in the EU.

Well done for seeing and accepting reality.

You are asking the wrong people (GC's) to agree to something (land for recognition) when you should be asking the TCs and Turkey for such a deal, and to what it would mean for them to agree to such a deal and under the conditions that will be asked by the GCs for such a deal, and that's without getting into your silly land percentages that you would want.

Lets start with these condition in what the GCs would want the TCs and Turkey to agree to, in order to achieve "Land for Recognition" for the north. Lets see how willing they will be to support your position. I doubt they will.

1. Only approx 5% of Government land would go to the north, based on 18%-82% split of 1960 population of Cyprus, of the 26% Government land that will divided, which will bring the land size for the north to be 17%. Denktash and Küçük sold most of the Evkaf land to the British for £1.5 million GBP, therefore the most land the north would have would be 18%, which bis 50% less than what it is today.

2. The north and Turkey will be vetoed from ever joining the EU.

3. There will be no longer any Turkish Cypriots in the RoC as a community, but only as citizens of Cyprus who happen to speak Turkish as their main language, much like the Spanish , Chinese, Japanese etc etc etc speaking citizens in the USA, and that the official language of the RoC will be Greek. Any TCs who does not wishes to accept this, will no longer be considered a citizen of Cyprus and that they will be stripped of their RoC citizenship and also stripped off their EU citizenship, unless they are EU citizens from another EU member state, such as the UK. Visa will be required by the north to travel to the RoC, exceptions for those with EU citizenship.

4. ALL services by the RoC will be stopped to ALL those who are no longer RoC citizens or EU citizens, except for pensions owed from the past.

5. ALL natural resources found in the new RoC's (82%) EEZ will belong solely to the RoC. Anything found in the north's 18% EEZ will belong to the north. Much like Haiti and Dominican Republic who both share the same island, but as separate countries, independent from each other, therefore, each have their own EEZ's.

6. The RoC will allow any country to station a military base on it's 82% territory.

These are few that comes to mind right now. I don't care that you will accept these condition for partition, because you are irrelevant. Give me an acceptance report for these above conditions by the TCs and Turkey and than come back here and ask for "Land for Recognition", otherwise you are such waisting every ones time as usual with your provocative propaganda..

Before taking these proposals to our leaders in the TRNC its you who should provide the acceptance report by the GC side otherwise its you that is pissing in the wind, if there is a serious proposal from those that count on the GC side then produce it otherwise its you that is wasting everyone time with your standard stupidity.

This is a public forum and we are all discussing our ideas publicly, you trying to dismiss the fact that bulio and I can come to a solution which we all know makes you sick by demanding the "official stamp" only shows that people like you support the current status quo as it is not your intention to find middle ground but to sell out the TCs people to minority rights in a GC state.

[Get Real!]

I thought Turkish Cypriots would rush to counter offer my generous Ottoman proposal…