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[Viewpoint]

...frankly vp see another GC doctor, there are many GC doctors, are all TC doctors exactly alike?

challenge your GC brethren, where is their National Assembly that mirrors your own as an equal; why does the Roc have to be burdened with their concerns, as Persons. are we not Bicommunal; our Federal Government should be defending our Individual Rights without discrimination, why is it Greek first?

...if i think your GCs are the "Greeks" i'm talking about, i would not throw a Greek child into that fire.

Your are taking the analogy literally and not addressing the realy question that the GCs being the majority would be in the driving seat and we would expect them to act fairly towards all Cypriots irrelevant of their origins, this is what we do not trust as they have proven time and time again that they incompetent with dealing and handling the future of all Cypriots.

[repulsewarrior]

yet you settle for what is...

...change nothing, you would have the "Turks" betray you instead of the "Greeks".

vp, at least in my fantasy the extremists live in a bigger whole, and they do not control the agenda; at least Cypriots and Cyprus exist.

[Viewpoint]

yet you settle for what is...

...change nothing, you would have the "Turks" betray you instead of the "Greeks".

vp, at least in my fantasy the extremists live in a bigger whole, and they do not control the agenda; at least Cypriots and Cyprus exist.

Who exactly are these "Cypriots"? your side is full of Greeks and they are represented in full force on this forum.

[repulsewarrior]

who are we, not even statistically significant, the Forum; but don't despair, eh vp...

...everyday taptaptapping. more drama, a chance to be a we for all the readers

you choose. Cypriots are the People we represent; a population that is neither "Greek" or "Turkish", (they work hard to keep us apart).

and through our acts is demonstrated Humanity, here lies the Problem, as Greeks, and as Turks, and as members of an even larger family of Man.

...MR-from-NG, are you there? without agreeing or disagreeing with my manifesto, but understanding that Bizonal and Bicommunal do not mean tearing something in two, can you help me, am i making sense to you?

[Viewpoint]

repulse you still avoid my question, obviously you do not have the answer.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Viewpoint - Do you believe that life without justice is more worthwhile?

- I think I am correct in surmising, from your comments, that you certainly believe it is more profitable.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint - Do you believe that life without justice is more worthwhile?

- I think I am correct in surmising, from your comments, that you certainly believe it is more profitable.

Greek girl we ceased debate a while back, why are you still trying to draw me into debate? as long as you continue to think Cyprus is Greek you can shrivel up and die.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Viewpoint - Do you believe that life without justice is more worthwhile?

- I think I am correct in surmising, from your comments, that you certainly believe it is more profitable.

Greek girl we ceased debate a while back, why are you still trying to draw me into debate? as long as you continue to think Cyprus is Greek you can shrivel up and die.

You never stated such a thing (otherwise, why feel the need to tell me now?); instead you choose what you "debate" and leave the difficult stuff alone! That's fine, if the answer to my question troubles you, there is hope!

[newgeneration]

I cannot see Cyprus ever being reunited. If the North and the South were able to agree it would have happened by now. The longer partition remains in place the less chance there is of the Cyprus problem ever being resolved. Since the Annan plan the tide has changed.

At the heart of the Cyprus problem the TC's will not agree to any form of reconcilation whereby they are not competely protected. They cannot trust the GC's after what happened following the new government in 1960 - Makarios has alot to answer for. Now that so much time has passed with the North living under oppressive conditions, TC's are significantly more vulnerable to the GC's were freedom of settlement to be passed.

On the other side the GC's are unwilling to make any compromise and insist upon somehow turning back the clock to 1974 in terms of settlement - impossible and unrealistic. It reminds me of Paulo Coelho's 'The Pearl' ...

What of the TC villages that were razed to the ground in the '63 and 64'? What of the fact that TC's went from owning 33% of the land to residing in just 3% - as refugees in tents - within a couple of years? Both sides are guilty of re-writing history but the terrorism that occurred between 1955 and 1974 cannot be erased.

For the TC's to trust the GC's must start by being honest about recent history. Within the current state of affairs I don't believe either side wants true reconciliation.

[Sotos]

When did TCs own 33% of land? TCs owned 0% of land and there were no Turks in Cyprus. So now tell me how the TCs went from 0% to anything more than 0%? Did they buy that land? NOOO. THEY STOLE IT. They invaded Cyprus, killed many Cypriots and then brought their Settlers and gave to them our land. That is how you got to "own" land in Cyprus. And in 1974 you invaded us again and now you want to "own" the whole north Cyprus which you illegally occupy and it is NOT yours. At the heart of the Cyprus Problem are the Turkish invaders who came here to take our lands. If you do not trust us and you do not like us then why you came to Cyprus? Oh, yes ... to STEAL from us. Nothing from history will be erased. We will always remember how you foreign invaders came to our island and created all these problems to us.