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[Get Real!]

Well, AWE, it wasn't exactly my 'idea' to "bribe the EU to eject TR", but my 'choice' from the limited offerings from the *mind* of GR!

I'll have you know that I'm probably the only poll creator who cares about alternative opinions by always including an alternative path!

In this case: #6: “Some other investment explained below...”

Moo!

[AWE]

GIG,

you idea is the bribe the EU to eject TR from the north, yes?

So CY's share of the gas money, perhaps $150 Billion, is really going to help the EU whose budge in 2007 was $158 Billion, and that is only the commission, the UK or France spending over 1 Trillion each in 2004.

As I say the CY gas money is not really enough to make the bribe option viable to any country that can eject TR form CY.

Well, AWE, it wasn't exactly my 'idea' to "bribe the EU to eject TR", but my 'choice' from the limited offerings from the *mind* of GR!

- Which makes your personally thought-out, customized suggestion, to buy out our identity and revamp it, so pernicious.

That you now try and justify your option as being the cheaper and more realistic possibility, I'll take as an indicator of the value inherent in your own flimsy, ephemeral cultural status ...

As GR points out you could have chose option 6 and given an explanation not 3 that you did.

As to pernicious, an exclusive Greek identity for Cyprus is much more damaging in that it perpetuates a sense that TCs are not Cypriots and hence the divide. Of course the ROC can spend the money how it want but if paying a bribe it helps to pay the decision maker(s) and that is likely to be the electorate in the north and/or Turkey.

[supporttheunderdog]

GIG,

you idea is the bribe the EU to eject TR from the north, yes?

So CY's share of the gas money, perhaps $150 Billion, is really going to help the EU whose budge in 2007 was $158 Billion, and that is only the commission, the UK or France spending over 1 Trillion each in 2004.

As I say the CY gas money is not really enough to make the bribe option viable to any country that can eject TR form CY.

Well, AWE, it wasn't exactly my 'idea' to "bribe the EU to eject TR", but my 'choice' from the limited offerings from the *mind* of GR!

- Which makes your personally thought-out, customized suggestion, to buy out our identity and revamp it, so pernicious.

That you now try and justify your option as being the cheaper and more realistic possibility, I'll take as an indicator of the value inherent in your own flimsy, ephemeral cultural status ...

As GR points out you could have chose option 6 and given an explanation not 3 that you did.

As to pernicious, an exclusive Greek identity for Cyprus is much more damaging in that it perpetuates a sense that TCs are not Cypriots and hence the divide. Of course the ROC can spend the money how it want but if paying a bribe it helps to pay the decision maker(s) and that is likely to be the electorate in the north and/or Turkey.

One should also bear in mind recent genetic research suggests that the so called Greek Cypriots and the so called Turkish Cypriots are both rather more related to each other than they are to the allged motherlands, ie they are both Cypriot rather than Turkish or Greek.... those who claim thus to be Greek or Turkish rather than Cypriot therefore seem to have an acquired or imposed identity and perhaps some of the money should be spent on buying them therapy to cure their delusional condition.

[kurupetos]

Maybe it's because TCs are descendants of GCs, who converted to Islam.

[GreekIslandGirl]

GIG,

you idea is the bribe the EU to eject TR from the north, yes?

So CY's share of the gas money, perhaps $150 Billion, is really going to help the EU whose budge in 2007 was $158 Billion, and that is only the commission, the UK or France spending over 1 Trillion each in 2004.

As I say the CY gas money is not really enough to make the bribe option viable to any country that can eject TR form CY.

Well, AWE, it wasn't exactly my 'idea' to "bribe the EU to eject TR", but my 'choice' from the limited offerings from the *mind* of GR!

- Which makes your personally thought-out, customized suggestion, to buy out our identity and revamp it, so pernicious.

That you now try and justify your option as being the cheaper and more realistic possibility, I'll take as an indicator of the value inherent in your own flimsy, ephemeral cultural status ...

As GR points out you could have chose option 6 and given an explanation not 3 that you did.

As to pernicious, an exclusive Greek identity for Cyprus is much more damaging in that it perpetuates a sense that TCs are not Cypriots and hence the divide. Of course the ROC can spend the money how it want but if paying a bribe it helps to pay the decision maker(s) and that is likely to be the electorate in the north and/or Turkey.

I don't care to freely speculate on Billions as it is such money which has gotten us all into the mess we currently face. But my choice (3) is the more realistic and ethically sound. After all Turkey is the invader which has to be removed and the EU is the partnership and the ideal we would benefit from maintaining.

Perhaps you need to reflect that it is outsiders like you who have muddied the terminology of being Cypriot. Cypriot is a political identity which can be used by Sri Lankans, Maronites, Turks, Greeks, English etc depending on their resident status etc - much like a Scot, a Nigerian etc can be called British. The divide in Cyprus came about because Britain instigated disproportionate powers to a minority group who came attached with provisos from Turkey. That Cyprus has always been culturally Greek, since such things were distinguishable, was/is well known to the Imperialist Brits!

[GreekIslandGirl]

One should also bear in mind recent genetic research suggests that the so called Greek Cypriots and the so called Turkish Cypriots are both rather more related to each other than they are to the allged motherlands

There has been no valid research which could deem to draw such preposterous conclusions as yours. Such hypothetical racist associations have been rubbished many times over.

[B25]

GIG,

you idea is the bribe the EU to eject TR from the north, yes?

So CY's share of the gas money, perhaps $150 Billion, is really going to help the EU whose budge in 2007 was $158 Billion, and that is only the commission, the UK or France spending over 1 Trillion each in 2004.

As I say the CY gas money is not really enough to make the bribe option viable to any country that can eject TR form CY.

Well, AWE, it wasn't exactly my 'idea' to "bribe the EU to eject TR", but my 'choice' from the limited offerings from the *mind* of GR!

- Which makes your personally thought-out, customized suggestion, to buy out our identity and revamp it, so pernicious.

That you now try and justify your option as being the cheaper and more realistic possibility, I'll take as an indicator of the value inherent in your own flimsy, ephemeral cultural status ...

As GR points out you could have chose option 6 and given an explanation not 3 that you did.

As to pernicious, an exclusive Greek identity for Cyprus is much more damaging in that it perpetuates a sense that TCs are not Cypriots and hence the divide. Of course the ROC can spend the money how it want but if paying a bribe it helps to pay the decision maker(s) and that is likely to be the electorate in the north and/or Turkey.

I don't care to freely speculate on Billions as it is such money which has gotten us all into the mess we currently face. But my choice (3) is the more realistic and ethically sound. After all Turkey is the invader which has to be removed and the EU is the partnership and the ideal we would benefit from maintaining.

Perhaps you need to reflect that it is outsiders like you who have muddied the terminology of being Cypriot. Cypriot is a political identity which can be used by Sri Lankans, Maronites, Turks, Greeks, English etc depending on their resident status etc - much like a Scot, a Nigerian etc can be called British. The divide in Cyprus came about because Britain instigated disproportionate powers to a minority group who came attached with provisos from Turkey. That Cyprus has always been culturally Greek, since such things were distinguishable, was/is well known to the Imperialist Brits!

GIG, don't waste your time with this guy, he lives in the occupied areas, he is bound to side with the invaders, after all, it is in his interest to do so.

[GreekIslandGirl]

GIG, don't waste your time with this guy, he lives in the occupied areas, he is bound to side with the invaders, after all, it is in his interest to do so.

I mean honestly! Which other peoples on earth would accept someone telling them they should spend their revenue on having their identity changed? And to justify it, he tells us it's to make the invaders feel more comfortable.

[supporttheunderdog]

One should also bear in mind recent genetic research suggests that the so called Greek Cypriots and the so called Turkish Cypriots are both rather more related to each other than they are to the allged motherlands

There has been no valid research which could deem to draw such preposterous conclusions as yours. Such hypothetical racist associations have been rubbished many times over.

Your trouble is that because of your own racism you have your head in the sand.

This is a conclusion others have reaved including for example Prof. Costantinos Delta director of Molecular and Medical Genetics department at the University of Cyprus.

http://www.cyprusupdates.com/2012/01/greek-cypriots-and-turkish-cypriots-more-similar-than-we-think/

[GreekIslandGirl]

One should also bear in mind recent genetic research suggests that the so called Greek Cypriots and the so called Turkish Cypriots are both rather more related to each other than they are to the allged motherlands

There has been no valid research which could deem to draw such preposterous conclusions as yours. Such hypothetical racist associations have been rubbished many times over.

Your trouble is that because of your own racism you have your head in the sand.

This is a conclusion others have reaved including for example Prof. Costantinos Delta director of Molecular and Medical Genetics department at the University of Cyprus.

http://www.cyprusupdates.com/2012/01/greek-cypriots-and-turkish-cypriots-more-similar-than-we-think/

Stud, only a racist would claim one group of people is more like another in the way you have done. Tracking migrations is not the same as assigning races. You don't know the difference.

Now, find me the original research which makes your claim because the journalist who wrote that piece in your link has contradicted himself within the same article.