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[AWE]

an estimated 20 billion doesn't buy mush - to any country that could take on TR it is pretty small beans i.e. the PA GDP of Leeds is about the same.

No spend it wisely: more and better paid jobs, welcome home TCs so only settlers are left in the north, then a big PR push to show the world that the population of the north is not native so does not have the right to decide the future of CY, then referendum for unitary state/full EU aquis etc and problem solved no blood split... ...oh and a nice padded room and jacket where the arms can join at the back for Yialoser.

[Get Real!]

an estimated 20 billion doesn't buy mush - to any country that could take on TR it is pretty small beans i.e. the PA GDP of Leeds is about the same.

No spend it wisely: more and better paid jobs, welcome home TCs so only settlers are left in the north, then a big PR push to show the world that the population of the north is not native so does not have the right to decide the future of CY, then referendum for unitary state/full EU aquis etc and problem solved no blood split... ...oh and a nice padded room and jacket where the arms can join at the back for Yialoser.

But your idea does NOT solve the problem of removing the invader!

That is the whole purpose of this thread if you are to touch that money. Read my intro.

And btw, 20 billion is probably from one block! (the Aphrodite or whatever it is called)

[B25]

There is only one real option to guarantee Cyprus being turk free. Buy nukes on the black market and either use them on turkey or threaten US and UK with them until they remove ther rottweiler and put a leash am muzzle on her. There are bound to be some Rissian generals somewhere, that can get their paws on WMD.

Anything else means you get double crossed, or no action. I'll be damned to bribe the perpertrator, this would just fuel more of this work elsewhere. Crime must not pay.

Simples really.

[Get Real!]

If we have primitive knowledge of gunpowder storage, I dread to think of Cyprus handling nuclear paraphernalia!

[AWE]

If we have primitive knowledge of gunpowder storage, I dread to think of Cyprus handling nuclear paraphernalia!

Ditto that

[AWE]

an estimated 20 billion doesn't buy mush - to any country that could take on TR it is pretty small beans i.e. the PA GDP of Leeds is about the same.

No spend it wisely: more and better paid jobs, welcome home TCs so only settlers are left in the north, then a big PR push to show the world that the population of the north is not native so does not have the right to decide the future of CY, then referendum for unitary state/full EU aquis etc and problem solved no blood split... ...oh and a nice padded room and jacket where the arms can join at the back for Yialoser.

But your idea does NOT solve the problem of removing the invader!

That is the whole purpose of this thread if you are to touch that money. Read my intro.

And btw, 20 billion is probably from one block! (the Aphrodite or whatever it is called)

Hi GR,

What I am saying here is use the money to make a true Cypriot identity, not Greek or Turkish as such but a mix of the long history of the island, so that when this is established any referendum will lead to a unitary state with both communities agreeing, if this happens Turkey has no reason "protecting the TCs" to remain. Of course this will mean accepting some of the settlers as Cypriots, those that have married TCs and their children, also a number of the settlers are Kurds so may have little love for TR and so could be induced to become Cypriots and then vocal opponents of TR. Additionally, add the bribe that Kikapu mentions, although once they are EU citizens it may be problematic regarding the payment or not of the money.

After all no country is going to go to war for CY, even with the Levantine Basin holding 122 x 10 to the 12 cu feet of gas, Block 12 has 8 x 10 to the 12, so in total there is some $300 billion of gas there, split between Cyprus, Egypt, Gaza, Israel, Syria, and Lebanon, as a comparison Istanbul's GDP in 2005 was 133 billion. Any country that has the military and political clout to kick TR out of CY will need more than CY's share of the gas money, sorry.

[kimon07]

That's an easy one. I chose No. 6

I would give $100,000 for every registered voter as "trnc citizen" who are settlers......

Fully agree with you on two conditions:
1. The 90% should be paid up by the countries or companies which will be granted explloitation rights by the RoC in the north CY EEZ
2. The 100.000 setlers should all be transfered to Germany for permanent establisment and be offered full time jobs or family benefits.

[GreekIslandGirl]

What I am saying here is use the money to make a true Cypriot identity ...

Is this some shallow suggestion? Or just naive to what Cyprus has experienced? Perhaps you believe we are criminals that need a new identity? Bureaucratical protection?


Here's your answer:


The domed interior swallows up the day.
Here, where to light a candle is to pray,
The candle flame shows up the almond eyes
Of local saints who view with no surprise
Their martyrdoms depicted upon walls
On which the filtered daylight faintly falls.
The flame shows up the cracked paint -- sea-green blue
And red and gold, with grained wood showing through --
Of much kissed ikons, dating from, perhaps,
The fourteenth century ...
Thus vigorously does the old tree grow,
By persecution pruned, watered with blood,
Its living roots deep in pre-Christian mud.
It needs no bureaucratical protection.
It is its own perpetual resurrection.

(John Betjeman)


Thank you, AWE, but we do not need to spend any money to buy ourselves a new 'identity' - constructed by you. We have one which is thousands of years old and has stood well against all invaders. You must be the first to suggest "buying" one for us and as such a reflection of the ever-changing face of the invaders.

[AWE]

GIG,

you idea is the bribe the EU to eject TR from the north, yes?

So CY's share of the gas money, perhaps $150 Billion, is really going to help the EU whose budge in 2007 was $158 Billion, and that is only the commission, the UK or France spending over 1 Trillion each in 2004.

As I say the CY gas money is not really enough to make the bribe option viable to any country that can eject TR form CY.

[GreekIslandGirl]

GIG,

you idea is the bribe the EU to eject TR from the north, yes?

So CY's share of the gas money, perhaps $150 Billion, is really going to help the EU whose budge in 2007 was $158 Billion, and that is only the commission, the UK or France spending over 1 Trillion each in 2004.

As I say the CY gas money is not really enough to make the bribe option viable to any country that can eject TR form CY.

Well, AWE, it wasn't exactly my 'idea' to "bribe the EU to eject TR", but my 'choice' from the limited offerings from the *mind* of GR!

- Which makes your personally thought-out, customized suggestion, to buy out our identity and revamp it, so pernicious.

That you now try and justify your option as being the cheaper and more realistic possibility, I'll take as an indicator of the value inherent in your own flimsy, ephemeral cultural status ...