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by **humanist** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:06 am

VP if you want to keep the debate at a very low level I can say they are marrying TC's, settlers Turks, and less Turks who live in Turkey and to an even smaller number people from different nationalities.

by **humanist** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:11 am

However, if you want a debate examining the socio cultural situation of TC's in Cyprus in 2012 it may look like this.

You said earlier your numbers are increasing and your returning to your roots. Correct?
You also asked who they are marrying. Yes? I responded.

However, what I would like to say is that, the original TC's those who have originated from the ottomans in Cyprus are actually reducing because what is happening people as you said earlier will be returning to their roots. Those roots as you claim can only be Turkish. So your Turkishnes comes first and you Cypriotnes second. Because as you suggest your all Turks first and then you assume the identity of a place you live.

by **Viewpoint** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:28 am

humanist wrote:However, if you want a debate examining the socio cultural situation of TC's in Cyprus in 2012 it may look like this.

You said earlier your numbers are increasing and your returning to your roots. Correct?
You also asked who they are marrying. Yes? I responded.

However, what I would like to say is that, the original TC's those who have originated from the ottomans in Cyprus are actually reducing because what is happening people as you said earlier will be returning to their roots. Those roots as you claim can only be Turkish. So your Turkishnes comes first and you Cypriotnes second. Because as you suggest your all Turks first and then you assume the identity of a place you live.

Your right to a certain extent but refuse to see reality.

If a Tcs married a Turk and has a baby in the TRNC what does that baby become? Whats happening now is that baby is all growed and marrying a Turk now what does their child become? You people need to get a grip about this you are disappearing we are growing by marrying and having babied just like any other population in any other country.

by **humanist** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:35 am

lol .... i is a good thing that you are marrying .... on an intellectual level it does not concern me at all really if you are or not.

Like I said my means of definition the offsprings in the examples you gave will be theoretically TC. However, to follow your line of thought of going back to your roots, and that is foremost Turkish then those children might grow up where the father for example is a settler and in his determination that he is Turkishness is first the children may grow up to say they are Turkish as opposed to being Greek. And if you are all about preserving your Turkishness then you will naturally drop the Cypriot from your identity and all integrate and become the one that you say you are.

by **humanist** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:38 am

The sad for the future of Cyprus, unless the TC's come to a place where most GC's are where we all identify as Cypriot, we're just going to have the same problems in the future but on a numerically larger scale. Where you have 1 million we have 7

by **Viewpoint** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:51 am

Really depends on the birth and marriage rates and as far as I know the north is far ahead of the south. As the years pass more and more the gap will narrow but what difference does this really make if we are divided? You have to understand that both sides will continue to develop according to their own individual social evolution and ours is very closely linked to our roots which as you know is Turkish. Now this may be taboo to you but as you are proud of your Greek roots were are very proud of our Turkishness. Nothing you say will ever devalue this, thats why when you Gcs say we are disappearing its really stupid.

by **humanist** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:56 am

I don't identify as Greek Cypriot I say I am Cypriot.

I am happy to leave the conversation because I don't feel am getting my point accross.

by **Viewpoint** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:00 am

humanist wrote:I don't identify as Greek Cypriot I say I am Cypriot.

I am happy to leave the conversation because I don't feel am getting my point accross.

Leaving only shows that you have no real argument to put forward, the evolution each side is going through only shows how different we are and that we are on different paths as we are and appears we will remain divided.

by **Get Real!** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:01 am

humanist wrote:The sad for the future of Cyprus, unless the TC's come to a place where most GC's are where we all identify as Cypriot, we're just going to have the same problems in the future but on a numerically larger scale. Where you have 1 million we have 7

As we so often see on this board, the GCs have a huge problem with treason themselves!

Our education ministry has been completely hijacked by Greece for almost 100 years and so to undo all the damage done to umpteen numbers of Greek sausage factory graduates is a major challenge that Cyprus will sooner or later have to face.

The Cyprus problem hasn’t even begun…