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[bill cobbett]

Oooooh nice and very sensible post Hermey... any one disagree ... ??? ...

[kurupetos]

Oooooh nice and very sensible post Hermey... any one disagree ... ??? ...

Yes, my friend YFred would like to disagree.

[bill cobbett]

Oooooh nice and very sensible post Hermey... any one disagree ... ??? ...

Yes, my friend YFred would like to disagree.

Have you no shame reh? ... calling that scammy LooRollShitiotti a "friend' .... !!!

[Kikapu]

@Paphitis
@GR

I don't have any "credible evidence" to show you any recorded Greece threats to the EU, since I'm sure it was something that was not discussed in the EU's Parliament in an open forum. You just have to connect the dots to reach a circumstantial evidence instead. The real question you need to ask yourselves is, why did Turkey's loyalist such as Blair allow Cyprus to become an EU member knowing full well it was going to complicate Turkey's EU bid in the future? Blair needed to have a very good reason why he couldn't block the RoC without risking in blocking the other 9 candidates. When you connect the dots on this, everything written about Greece threatening to block any enlargement unless Cyprus was also admitted gains a lot of momentum and adds a lot of credibility to those reports, even if there are no "credible written evidence". Any allowance by Blair on Cyprus as far as he was concerned, it was going to be very short lived, because the passing of the Annan Plan which so much energy and money was poured into for is's passage was going to resurrect Turkey's EU bid from the grave and at the same time, place the RoC in it's place. To add more credibility to Greece's involvement, all you have to do is listen to Turkey's politicians bitching for the last 7 years that the EU violated it's own principles by allowing a divided (not occupied) Cyprus into the EU, along with all the other losers who are upset by the failure of the AP, which would have prevented all the damage Turkey has and will suffer as a result of the failure of the AP. The master plan that was conceived to deceive and damage the RoC had made a vicious turn in 2004 and instead, damaged the enemies of Cyprus. Stop asking for the "smoking gun" guys, because I don't have one, and I'm sure neither does anyone else. Not everything in politics is written nor is it in Black & White. It fact, it would be a novelty if it was for once...!

[Get Real!]

It’s all here in black & white; CREDIBLE EVIDENCE in support of Cyprus’ accession purely based on merit!

I’m not going to bother quoting sections of it because there is way too much in here so enjoy your selves!

Opinion on Cyprus Application for Membership of the EU – 30 June 1993

PDF
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/archive ... 313_en.pdf

Website
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/press_c ... ive_en.htm

Case closed!

[Kikapu]

It’s all here in black & white; CREDIBLE EVIDENCE in support of Cyprus’ accession purely based on merit!

I’m not going to bother quoting sections of it because there is way too much in here so enjoy your selves!

Opinion on Cyprus Application for Membership of the EU – 30 June 1993

PDF
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/archive ... 313_en.pdf

Website
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/press_c ... ive_en.htm

Case closed!

You are missing the point, GR...again!

No one is doubting Cyprus met all the EU criteria as well as no precondition on the approval on the AP in order for her to become a EU member. This alone was not enough however, since Cyprus still would have been long delayed, if not vetoed, by any one of the 15 EU members in becoming an EU member.

[Viewpoint]

It’s all here in black & white; CREDIBLE EVIDENCE in support of Cyprus’ accession purely based on merit!

I’m not going to bother quoting sections of it because there is way too much in here so enjoy your selves!

Opinion on Cyprus Application for Membership of the EU – 30 June 1993

PDF
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/archive ... 313_en.pdf

Website
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/press_c ... ive_en.htm

Case closed!

You are missing the point, GR...again!

No one is doubting Cyprus met all the EU criteria as well as no precondition on the approval on the AP in order for her to become a EU member. This alone was not enough however, since Cyprus still would have been long delayed, if not vetoed, by any one of the 15 EU members in becoming an EU member.

How do you know the AP was not a precondition?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Completely agree with Hermes on how useful Cyprus is for the EU and rightfully recognized as so.

But still there are those elements (UK?) who insisted on the Turkish agenda to please the USA in destroying the EU ( by allowing Turkey in) who would have refused Cyprus' accession into the EU (for all the wrong reasons) whilst still occupied by Turkey if Greece had not acted in advance to secure this as a definitive illegal stranglehold.

[Kikapu]

It’s all here in black & white; CREDIBLE EVIDENCE in support of Cyprus’ accession purely based on merit!

I’m not going to bother quoting sections of it because there is way too much in here so enjoy your selves!

Opinion on Cyprus Application for Membership of the EU – 30 June 1993

PDF
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/archive ... 313_en.pdf

Website
http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/press_c ... ive_en.htm

Case closed!

You are missing the point, GR...again!

No one is doubting Cyprus met all the EU criteria as well as no precondition on the approval on the AP in order for her to become a EU member. This alone was not enough however, since Cyprus still would have been long delayed, if not vetoed, by any one of the 15 EU members in becoming an EU member.

How do you know the AP was not a precondition?

Perhaps you haven't heard, but the AP was voted down by the GCs and within a week, the RoC became a full EU member back in 2004, despite the AP not being approved.

Perhaps you were sleeping that day when it happened back in 2004, and most likely ever since, to be asking the question you did!

[Viewpoint]

So you dont know if it was a precondition on which the GCs reneged, they have a habit of doing that...just remember what Verhugen said about being tricked.