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[kimon07]

I repeat. Had the Cypriot government said NO to Annan plan II, (regardless of the answer of the TCs) would CY be granted the accession date? Yes or No? Just answer this question.Thank you.

Well, anyone from the legal lessons class? Yes or No? Boys?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Greece had already guaranteed Cyprus' EU accession regardless of any sideline issues like "Annan" plans.

[Get Real!]

Very kind of you to correct my (admittedly) poor English.
However, my Greek education enables me to fully understand the whole meaning of what I read. While, having had a legal education, I am in a better position than you and Paphitis to understand and interpret legal texts, either laws or rulings or resolutions etc. So you will now allow me to return your kind favour and offer to you some free lessons on how to read legal documents.

Right, so on the one hand you admit your poor command of the English language, and on the other you want to teach me how to “decipher“ text written in English!

And then you wonder why I have no respect for Greeks…

[yialousa1971]

Very kind of you to correct my (admittedly) poor English.
However, my Greek education enables me to fully understand the whole meaning of what I read. While, having had a legal education, I am in a better position than you and Paphitis to understand and interpret legal texts, either laws or rulings or resolutions etc. So you will now allow me to return your kind favour and offer to you some free lessons on how to read legal documents.

Right, so on the one hand I admit my poor command of the English language, and on the other you want to teach me how to “decipher“ text written in English!

And then you wonder why I have great respect for Greeks…

[repulsewarrior]

The real mystery is why other members let Greece join the EU in 1981, and later the euro.

Greece had to join to make sure it could get the RoC through too. Enosis achieved; now, it's a unilateral move to remove the Turks from EU territory.

Weep!

...maybe a bit rich OP, i remember Greece supported Turkey's bid to join the EU (along with Cyprus). Cyprus did have the support of Greece, it's true, but by the same token, England has not had the same influence on the EU with their support of Turkey's bid. it seems that the rules are the rules, influence does not cut this limitation.

...and for those who remember the wonder child Greece, she was greatly admired as a thriving economy then (when they were given membership), much like Turkey's position today.

[observer]

The real mystery is why other members let Greece join the EU in 1981, and later the euro.

Greece had to join to make sure it could get the RoC through too. Enosis achieved; now, it's a unilateral move to remove the Turks from EU territory.

Weep!

...maybe a bit rich OP, i remember Greece supported Turkey's bid to join the EU (along with Cyprus). Cyprus did have the support of Greece, it's true, but by the same token, England has not had the same influence on the EU with their support of Turkey's bid. it seems that the rules are the rules, influence does not cut this limitation.

...and for those who remember the wonder child Greece, she was greatly admired as a thriving economy then (when they were given membership), much like Turkey's position today.

The entry of Greece into the EU (then the EEC) was a triumph of political considerations over economic reality.

In the late 1970s, the EU was a group of nations with broadly similar economies and levels of technology. In comparison, Greece, Portugal and Spain were relatively backward countries industrially, recently emerged from dictatorships. All three were doing well economically, improving from a low base as Turkey is today. There were many reasons for them doing well. These included tourism, thanks to sun and low costs, external investment, encouraged by a fairly skilled, low-cost workforce with minimal labour regulations, and proximity and favourable trading conditions to countries in the EU.

EU Politicians, with the noble aim of stopping a slide back into dictatorship, and the mercenary aim of securing a larger market for goods produced in their more industrialised nations then brought Greece into the EU in 1981, and Portugal and Spain five years later. Once inside the EU, all their advantages disappeared (except for the sun) as they became burdened with the EU’s one-size-fits-all economic policies. A couple of decades later, the economies of Greece, Portugal and Spain are all basket cases. Much the same process happened in 2004 and since with the ex-communist countries of Eastern Europe.

With political factors within the EU so much more important than economic considerations, it would come as no surprise to learn that Greece threatened or implied a veto if Cyprus were not allowed to join the EU, even though the island was and is divided.

[supporttheunderdog]

The real mystery is why other members let Greece join the EU in 1981, and later the euro.

Greece had to join to make sure it could get the RoC through too. Enosis achieved; now, it's a unilateral move to remove the Turks from EU territory.

Weep!

Yes Enosis with Britain, too, as well as all other EU states.

Greece joined / was allowed to joint for its own reasons/ for the perceived benefit of the rest of the the EEC not specifically to get the RoC in.

Further it has not removed Turks from EU territory - (apart from the illegal) settlers in Turkey (and may they go home soon taking the TA with them) there are many more Turks (legally) living in Germany and by virtue of EU law with rights to continue doing so.

[Get Real!]

Very kind of you to correct my (admittedly) poor English.
However, my Greek education enables me to fully understand the whole meaning of what I read. While, having had a legal education, I am in a better position than you and Paphitis to understand and interpret legal texts, either laws or rulings or resolutions etc. So you will now allow me to return your kind favour and offer to you some free lessons on how to read legal documents.

Right, so on the one hand I admit my poor command of the English language, and on the other you want to teach me how to “decipher“ text written in English!

And then you wonder why I have great respect for Greeks…

Yialoser, the perfect Greek… drowning out reality with mythology again!

[kimon07]

And then you wonder why I have no respect for Greeks…

As I expected. More "Paphetic" Hellenophobic Hysteria. It's yourself you don't respect.
Now, just answer my question using your perfect english.Yes or No?

[Get Real!]

Now, just answer my question using your perfect english.Yes or No?

Please! I’m a married man!