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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:04 pm

bill cobbett wrote:So... erm... how to put this...? ... Who helped little old Malta in to the EU...???? ... (Joined on the same day as CY.)


Let's just say, they weren't hindered with the baggage of 40,000 Turkish troops riding along.
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:05 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:I got it from the europa link you provided:

Günter Verheugen said : « There is a window of opportunity for a united Cyprus joining the European Union by 1 May 2004. The Commission is ready to assist any further efforts to contribute to a comprehensive settlement on the basis of the UN plan, which remains on the table.

Are you SURE you're tertiary educated? :?
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:06 pm

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I got it from the europa link you provided:

Günter Verheugen said : « There is a window of opportunity for a united Cyprus joining the European Union by 1 May 2004. The Commission is ready to assist any further efforts to contribute to a comprehensive settlement on the basis of the UN plan, which remains on the table.

Are you SURE you're tertiary educated? :?


So what's wrong with your source?
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:07 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I got it from the europa link you provided:

Günter Verheugen said : « There is a window of opportunity for a united Cyprus joining the European Union by 1 May 2004. The Commission is ready to assist any further efforts to contribute to a comprehensive settlement on the basis of the UN plan, which remains on the table.

Are you SURE you're tertiary educated? :?


So what's wrong with your source?

Show me from those three lines where it says that a solution to the CyProb is a prerequisite for Cyprus to become an EU member!

Go on!
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I got it from the europa link you provided:

Günter Verheugen said : « There is a window of opportunity for a united Cyprus joining the European Union by 1 May 2004. The Commission is ready to assist any further efforts to contribute to a comprehensive settlement on the basis of the UN plan, which remains on the table.

Are you SURE you're tertiary educated? :?


So what's wrong with your source?

Show me from those three lines where it says that a solution to the CyProb is a prerequisite for Cyprus to become an EU member!

Go on!


Certain members (nearer the time) were stipulating for a united Cyprus even though this was not a precondition - they could still vote against accession. Silencing these objections was done by Greece.
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby Piratis » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:31 pm

But Cyprus’ EU membership, initially conceived by European and other diplomats as
a catalyst for a solution, now emerged as a serious headache for the EU. For its part,
Turkey had made it clear that it would annex the northern part of Cyprus if the EU
admitted the Greek-Cypriots as the Republic of Cyprus without a settlement. On the
other hand, Greece had threatened to use its veto power over EU enlargement unless
the Republic of Cyprus was included in the first wave of enlargement. A glimmer of
hope arose with the European Council meeting in Helsinki in December 1999.
Parallel to its recognition of Turkey as a candidate for membership (with Greece’s
blessing) the EU implicitly confirmed that the solution of the Cyprus problem was no
longer a prerequisite for the admission of Cyprus

http://www.ecmi.de/fileadmin/downloads/ ... iangou.pdf

Turkey's Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit has threatened to annex northern Cyprus if the Republic of Cyprus is admitted to the European Union. Mr Ecevit's statement to Turkey's Milliyet newspaper followed a warning by Turkish Foreign Minister Ismail Cem that Turkey may be forced to take a "definitive decision" on Cyprus with a "heavy cost", according to the Financial Times.
The EU is expected to conclude enlargement negotiations with Cyprus during the course of 2002. The whole enlargement process faces the prospect of a Greek veto unless Cyprus is admitted to the EU in the first wave of enlargement in 2004.

The EU may admit Cyprus without a settlement between the Greek and Turkish parts if the leader of the Turkish part Rauf Denktash refuses to return to United Nations-sponsored negotiations between the Greek and Turkish Cypriots. The EU decided at its summit in Helsinki in December 1999 that a lack of settlement cannot block the admission of Cyprus.

Any move towards annexing Cyprus would jeopardise Turkey's own candidacy for EU membership. Resolving the Cypriot issue is one of the main conditions for Turkey's integration into the EU.

http://www.euractiv.com/enlargement/tur ... cle-111147
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:37 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Certain members (nearer the time) were stipulating for a united Cyprus even though this was not a precondition - they could still vote against accession. Silencing these objections was done by Greece.

:lol:

You know, the way we’re going you’ll end up telling us that a bubble gum on the EU corridor was removed in the nick of time by Greeks before Marcos tripped on it!

Ok… thanks! :|
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby kimon07 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:44 pm

boomerang wrote:i have trouble getting my head around .........
I was right then. Your head and brain are in the same mess as the disgusting creature you use as your avatar.
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby kimon07 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:49 pm

Piratis wrote:
The EU may admit Cyprus without a settlement between the Greek and Turkish parts if the leader of the Turkish part Rauf Denktash refuses to return to United Nations-sponsored negotiations between the Greek and Turkish Cypriots. The EU decided at its summit in Helsinki in December 1999 that a lack of settlement cannot block the admission of Cyprus.


Like I said many times bofore.

A statue for Rauf Denktash in Metaxa (sorry) Demokratia square in Nicosia.
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Re: greece and turkey guarantor rights

Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:02 am

Piratis, you’re posting junk again!

Your first link is a unauthorized person’s opinion which unfortunately says…

A glimmer of hope arose with the European Council meeting in Helsinki in December 1999. Parallel to its recognition of Turkey as a candidate for membership (with Greece’s blessing) the EU implicitly confirmed that the solution of the Cyprus problem was no longer a prerequisite for the admission of Cyprus

:lol:

And your second link is a private news article echo… :roll:

http://www.euractiv.com/fondation


Post a CREDIBLE link of an EU report (or hired expert to conduct a report on behalf of the UN or EU and there are many!) that proves your theory that Cyprus wasn’t worthy of EU membership and only attained it via Greek threats!
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