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[akiner]

Good move, change the subject

Nothing different between killed Greeks by Turks in Anadolu or killedTurkics(u cant hear any moan about it) by Chineses or by Arabs(islamic horde) in central asia, that is what we call history and when u look at it, you can see mostly(with wide-open rate) killing...

Pogrom(what u refer i dont get it) of istanbul was as bad as massacres on Turks at Balkans

[Main_Source]

its this typical Turkish mentality i f*ckin HATE.

The Cyprus problem was the Greeks fault and Turkey made a 'peace intervention'.

The Armenian genocide never happend and its all lies.

The Arabs should were wrong to fight for a unified arab peninsula and should have let the Turks carry on ruling them.

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The level of hypocrisy used by such people believing all this is unbelievable.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

once upon the time akiner wrote:
Anyone in this forum, who claims that there was a genocide could post here pls the coordinates of massgraves(OR EVEN CAMPS set up to kill armenian ppl) of that 1.5mil deadbodies If s/he doesnt believe these bodies flied to sky and disappered immediatly....[/quote]
Akiner,you want evidence??? You have allready decided its a myth and no matter what proof I give you, since I have told you about a great site, you dont want to hear it. So, lets not waste eachothers time. By the way do you have the coordinates of where these massacares against Turks occured in the balkans or even Cyprus?? Did the bodies just dissapear?? Just read my last line and if I ment that would you not be insulted?? Just think before you post. Remember there were many ambassadors that wrote about the Genocide plus there are tons of photos. Oh thats right they are banned from being shown in Turkey thats why you wouldnt know a thing about that.
Akiner, Turks dont moan?? Sure they do about the liberated lands we took back from the Azeris. I can go on and on and also discuss how Turkey complained about the treatment of Turks in Bulgaria during the 80s
even though they had no rights to speak of for there own minorities.

[akiner]

By the way do you have the coordinates of where these massacares against Turks occured in the balkans or even Cyprus??

Ahh no sorry i dont have any coordinates for spesific camps or massgraves where turk have been slaughered in balkans that is the reason why i called it as massacares-just an another usual one in history-not a genocide, if i have any proofs for systematic action holding by greeks,bulgarians other than bumping turks out of Balkans, i speak it out as whatever so dont worry

When it comes to Cyprus it is a different issue and alot of ppl are so sensitive about what happend to turks but if you really want to know whatis the truth and where kinda places there were, just watch last 10-15mins of Tony Angastiniotis documentary- i can supply more sources if u like- how kinda action was held by you Gcs then u can see what happend to "tourists"

In that respect my question still viable, when u consider 1.5 million boddies it must be soooo difficult to make them disappeared, If it was a genocide...
But if it was a relocation then sure u have no clue about graves or camps or whatever and it is why u cant post a single answer to me(just take the example of real genocide when u ask jews for evidences they could show places)...

Akiner, Turks dont moan??

I heard no moan from turks about how they kicked out from Central Asia and others u mentioned just follow u

Main_source;
i have no business someone like you who are not only uneducated but also suffering from lack of knowledge

and then he(Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK) ordered the death and ethnic cleansing of millions of Armenians and hundreds of thousands of Greeks.

Yeah, nice guy.

Learn history before talking about my mentality

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

Remember there were many ambassadors that wrote about the Genocide plus there are tons of photos. Oh thats right they are banned from being shown in Turkey thats why you wouldnt know a thing about that.


Besides this info look into the Dr Horton memiors, I am sure you will find out how kind your Turkish Brothers were. Lets see, I am sure since the genocide happened in Anatolia which is now part of Turkey, your government can tell you where they are hidden. Relocation?? Where into a dessert without shelter or food???? Please.

PS You just told me Turks dont moan, yet you are telling me Turks are sensative about what happened on Cyprus. So is it only when something affects Turks that it count?? Funny, you have no idea what happened to the Armenian and Greek communuties in Istanbul during 1957, yet you do know about the suffering of your people. You should really look into the riots and get back to me.

[BirKibrisli]

Armenian Cypriot/Akiner,
Maybe we should stop using that very emotive word "genocide" for now to describe this tragedy.It might make it easier to discuss the actual events.Lets look at what we can agree on:Was there a forced mass movement of people of Armenian origin in 1915 by the Ottomans?Most definately.Were people marched for days under atrocious conditions to new destinations?Most definately.Did many people die as a result?Definately.Were their any rapes,tortures,actual shootings?Most probably.
Why did all this happen? Was there a political decision to exterminate people of Armenian background?I can't honestly answer that question?
I simply don't know.Is there a need to find out the truth of the matter?Most definately?Is there a need for positive action to reconcile the Turkish and Armenian peoples?Most definately.Lets hope the Istanbul Conference was the first step towards these ends.Lets watch it all carefully and not let anything get in the way of this cleansing process.Till then maybe we can be civilised towards each other.

[akiner]

Why did all this happen?

Because like all other communities who tasted nationalism syrup, Armenians started a campaign to set up great Armenia like once poor Greeks felt in a dream as Megola idea.

Armenians sabotaged Ottoman Army supply routes and terrorised the local community while the army was still in fight with Russians in WWI



A massgrave belongs the muslim victims of armenian terror from Van

[Main_Source]

Akiner...so do you think that Armenians, Kurds, Greeks and Arabs are all wrong in their views about conflict with Turkey / Ottoman Empire...but Turks are all correct??

How arrogant and brain washed can any one nation be!?

[BirKibrisli]

Akiner...so do you think that Armenians, Kurds, Greeks and Arabs are all wrong in their views about conflict with Turkey / Ottoman Empire...but Turks are all correct??

How arrogant and brain washed can any one nation be!?

Main_Source,
You are not really helping the matters,mate.Let me explain why.
Modern Turkey has never been able to put the ghost of the Ottoman Empire behind her.I think it was Kemal Tahir(one of the best but probably the most underrated modern Turkish novelist-now dead) who said "the Ottoman mindset is not dead,it lives within us".Most Turks still live with a siege mentality.One of the most popular Turkish sayings translates as "A Turk's friend can only be another Turk!"By reminding Akiner of his conflicts with the Armenians,Kurds,Greeks and Arabs you will only drive him more into his castle where he feels safe.Try trying to entice him to come out of the castle,tell him you won't bite his head off.That is the only way forward,imo.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

www.genocide1915.info/# Please watch the film by ABC NEWS on the bottom of the page. Akiner you may be surprised by what you see.