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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:29 am

I am glad you got it. PS thanks for the corrections.
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Postby Azeroglu » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:33 am

I am glad you got it. PS thanks for the corrections.
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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:58 am

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Postby Azeroglu » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:58 am

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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:09 am

Hey,Azeroglu/Armenian Cypriot,this is your partner in crime.
You are probably fast asleep in your beds now,but I am on guard here.
Let me tell you a little bedtime story.There was once a soldier called Mustafa Kemal.He was in charge of some troops in a place called Gallipoli
(Gelibolu for the initiated).He was under attack from the British which included Australian and New Zealand troops(The Anzacs).For some 10 months the Anzacs fiercely attacked trying to capture the peninsula,and the Turks fiercely defended their lines.(I should really say the Ottomans,because they included people of Kurdish,Armenian and Greek background as well-you better believe it).When the Anzacs withdrew quietly one dark night,they left behind about 25,000 dead and buried.The loses on the Ottoman side were more than 280,000.Some time later,at the anniversary of the Battle for Gallipoli,Mustafa Kemal,now the President of Turkey and known as Ataturk send a message to the mothers of the dead Anzacs :"Mothers who have lost sons on these our shores,wipe away your tears.Your sons are laying in the bosom of a friendly country. There is no difference for us between Mehmets and Johnnies.By coming here and shedding their blood on our soil they have become our sons as well."
I'll let you two work out the moral of the story.
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Postby Main_Source » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:35 pm

and then he ordered the death and ethnic cleansing of millions of Armenians and hundreds of thousands of Greeks.

Yeah, nice guy.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:42 pm

Birkibrisli, you cannot talk sense to the arteriosclerotics. You are just wasting your time I am afraid.
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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:28 pm

Hey Birk, I hope you were able to visit the site I recomended. P S, I was I was glad that Turkey allowed the seminar to finally happen. Such steps can only help build trust between the two communities.
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Postby sadik » Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:23 am

Main_Source wrote:and then he ordered the death and ethnic cleansing of millions of Armenians and hundreds of thousands of Greeks.

Yeah, nice guy.


Main Source, I guess you know no history. Armenian massacres took place in 1915, when the Ottoman empire still existid. Ataturk became the leader of the liberation struggle much later, after the 1st world war was finished and Anatolia was occupied.
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Postby sadik » Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:54 am

ARMENIAN CYPRIOT wrote:Hey Birk, I hope you were able to visit the site I recomended. P S, I was I was glad that Turkey allowed the seminar to finally happen. Such steps can only help build trust between the two communities.


Hey A/C, this is the first positive thing that I've heard from you about Turkey.

It's interesting to note that 95% of the Turkish academics who attended to the conference labelled the events of 1915 as genocide. This is also the first time such a public and publicized event is taking place in Turkey. There wasn't a serious public reaction to the event. Apparently extreme nationalists were very upset and they were protesting outside, throwing eggs to the attendants. However, they have limited influence without the state support. Two major political parties, ex-islamist conservative governing party and the opposition Kemalist party supported the event, both of which accept that a large number of Armenians were killed but reject that these killings were systematical and reject the label genocide.
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