Kifeas wrote:Viewpoint wrote:1. I agree the troops should go, that goes for your troops as well. one entity that ones a bit more difficult, I want to stay on Cyprus but I dont want to live with you...
Viewpoint!
You now have the opportunity to express all your wishes, wants and preferences. Please tell me everything you want!
If you are shy, then I will do the start first. I want to be the king and master of the Universe. I want to be God. I want to rule the entire world one day. I want to have trillions of tones of gold and zillions of pounds. I want to live one Zillion years and to always be young and healthy. I want to have a zillion of women in my service and change one every day for as long as I live.
It is your turn now! I am all ears eyes to listen and read all your wants and desires.
Viewpoint!
I did not ask you share your bedroom with me, nor your house. Of course, what I understand from what you said above, you obviously mean that do not want to live with me (GCs) in the same country. You want to have a separate country exclusively for your selves (TCs) and in which me and the other GCs cannot share and cannot live in.
Sorry Viewpoint, this cannot happen in Cyprus! Cyprus, the whole of Cyprus, is the country of the GCs. It is the country of the GCs for the last 3,500 thousand years, or better since there are written records of their existence. Of course it is also the country of the TCs. Because Cyprus if the country of the GCs, GCs have a natural right to live in their country, everywhere anywhere they choose, in their country. This is a natural, regal, moral and ethical right. It is a fundamental human right.
Now what you expressed above, namely that you do not want to live with us, is a mere preference, a desire. Your preference, your desire, your want is in direct conflict with the GC’s natural right. What you want is not a right, it is a desire or a preference, and what the GCs want is not a desire or a preference, it is a right. When a desire or a preference is in conflict with a right, then what proceeds from the two is the right. If you want your desire or preference to be fulfilled, then you can move your self in the Sahara dessert. I can assure you no GC will follow you there.
The right of the GCs to live anywhere they wish in their country doesn’t have to do with properties. This right is a natural, historical and an identity one. It is a legal and a moral right and it is not negotiable, nor a subject or a matter of compensation.
Of course, and as you have done for the last 31 years, you seem to be prepared to continue to enforce your desires and preferences. You use the force of the Turkish army in order to impose your desires against and in the expense of the GCs rights.
However this above act of yours, and I am sure you are able to understand this despite your limited abilities, provides the GCs with the legitimate right, whenever this will become feasible and once they will realise that you are not willing to ever act in a civilised and sensible manner, to prepare themselves to use the same means and methods like the ones you currently use against them for the sole purpose of enforcing your illegitimate desires in the expense of the GC’s legitimate rights.
I hope I was a bit clearer this time, although I know it is always difficult for you to understand certain things, regardless how analytically they are presented to you.
Blood pressure gone up Kifeas? the usual verbal dihorea we hear from you is wearing real thin, which in effect means you are wrong I am right. You have no rights to want anything because you are illeagal and we have every right has we are illegal.
The mentality you have displayed in the above post is the exact reason why I believe we cannot live together in a unitary state, because GC mindset is that they are always right and that they have every right to do whatever they want because they are the numerical majority and are recognized by the world, this gives them that supriority complex which makesme sick and you are a very good example.
Well Kifeas have I got news for first you need to take a reality check all your legallites have gotten you nowhere closer to living anywhere on the island or dominating the TCs community for the past 31 years, you are welcome to visit our side (with your sandwiches and keo) but as long as you go back to your side at the end of the day and leave us in peace.
We have 37% of the island so if we cannot agree on a partnership that both communities can commit to, then we will continue as a divided island forever, or as Piratis says the balance of power changes in your favour and you can blow us TCs to kingdom come and have the island to yourself, or never forget the balance of power could even go further in favor of TCs, eg recognition of the TRNC, Annan 6 further concessions from GCs forced by EU UN USA etc.
I dont mind living on the same island with GCs but we are obviously unable to form one entitiy where we can trust each other, feel safe and proper,please dont try and argue this point we have tried on and off for over 45 years now to no avail, if you were right we would have found a solution a long time ago, so whats the alternative? imo its living seperately as 2 good neighbours like we are right now but with better relations and recognition of the north. You would be in the EU and we would not, the relations between our 2 countries would be based along the same principles of many other small countries.
Your idea is a forced marriage of a divorced couple who in the past may have had feelings for each other but came to realize through experience that they caused each other more damage than good, so the best route would be to divorce and go their seperate ways.
I dont want a forced marriage, you do...havent I got the right to reject marriage with you and go my own way?
Im not going anywhere off my part of the island and I dont want your 2/3rds of the island, you live there divorced from me or as you said go live in the Sahara. Leave us alone to live as all other people in the world not constantly under isolation maintained by your GC administration at every international level possible.