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[Robin Hood]

Cyprusgrump:

I realise that, I just enjoy baiting him...

Of course you do! You don’t have the intelligence to do anything else!

The great thing about the loony is that it only cost me 14 words to get him to hammer at his keyboard for ages in response!

I can type quite rapidly and I just love making buffoons like you look stupid because you have no response other than insults and ridicule! You have no credibility!

Of course he will never accept the coincidences of two people catching an event being plausible... Only his version is acceptable despite just about everybody having a camera in their pockets these days...

So you haven’t worked out my little riddle of WTC1 yet, especially for you to show how cleaver you are? You never will work it out, no matter how long you look at the two video's, because you are not smart enough.

[repulsewarrior]

...one of the four arrested, it is reported, was the individual who inadvertently recorded the missile attack while using his video recorder.

A "Special Court" will be opened, because the whole world will be watching, says the Supreme leader.

...meanwhile violence has returned to the streets, as protesters are fired upon with live ammunition, it is alleged.

I received this a couple of days ago but didn’t bother to post it here, for obvious reasons, but your link seems to give credence to the observations made in this article. Do you really think '.....who inadvertently recorded the missile attack' is even remotely true?

Iran Jet Disaster Setup ......... by Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich, Finian Cunningham

The anonymous videographer is the person who caught the 19-second clip which shows a missile striking Flight PS752 shortly after take-off from Tehran’s Imam Khomenei airport at around 6.15 am. This person, who remains silent during the filming while smoking a cigarette (the smoke briefly wafts over the screen), is standing in the suburb of Parand looking northwest. His location was verified by the NY Times using satellite data. The rapid way the newspaper’s technical resources were marshalled raises a curious question about how a seemingly random video submission was afforded such punctilious attention.

But the big question which many people on social media are asking is: why was this “videographer” standing in a derelict industrial area outside Tehran at around six o’clock in the morning with a mobile phone camera training on a fixed angle to the darkened sky? The airliner is barely visible, yet the sky-watching person has the camera pointed and ready to film a most dramatic event, seconds before it happened. That strongly suggests, foreknowledge.

Given that something awful has just been witnessed it is all the more strange that the person holding the camera remains calm and unshaken. There is no audible expression of shock or even the slightest disquiet.

Turns out that Nariman Gharib, the guy who received the video and credited by the NY Times for submitting it, is a vociferous anti-Iranian government dissident who does not live in Iran. He ardently promotes regime change in his social media posts.


In the latest shoot-down of the airliner above Tehran, the tight liaison between a suspiciously placed anonymous videographer on the ground and an expatriate Iranian dissident who then gets the prompt and generous technical attention of the NY Times suggests a level of orchestration, not, as we are led to believe, a random happenstance submission. More sinisterly, the fateful incident was a setup.

https://sptnkne.ws/AZbx

All hypothesis but .......... If as your link says the Iranian authorities have arrested the videographer and he ‘sings’ then although the Iranians admitted their responsibility, the finger of culpability could well start pointing in other directions. Not that the majority would even consider an alternative possibility!

..it is worth mentioning; while it sounds far fetched. In such an environment where there is a desire to express sentiments strongly, it is easy to imagine persons or individuals acting independently. Indeed, who says that the regime is in control of every rocket launcher in Iran? And thus,it has to be asked if it was coincidence that this plane, full of Canadians, was shot down; let's not forget that Canada-Iran relations are not friendly for their own reasons.

...and now that there will be a "Special Trial"; what will we see, "Special Justice"?

Mr. Trudeau is not one to speculate, nor escalate confrontations, he will wait for the course of the investigations to conclude. If there is a grain of truth to such possibility though, it will be rooted out. And while Canada is not likely to extract revenge militarily if true, exposure of the truth is more damaging to the regime than more violence.

...hard to believe, that it is an anti-regimist involved in such a plot, though.

[Robin Hood]

Cyprusgrump:

You did tho...

You claimed it was mechanical failure and posted links to the failure of the Australian aircraft to prove it...

Do you need me to post your comment once again to remind you...?

No I will do it for you ...................I posted:

Paphitis ..... any comment?

Not quite as isolated an incident after all ..... although in this instance an Airbus 380, not a Boeing, but the indications are very similar ........ comment is from another forum!

I made it very clear the comment was from another forum ..... not my comment. I just found the idea that a catastrophic engine failure and the resulting damage, could not cause the aircraft to crash, as suggested by Kikapu ....... “ No amount of engine fire would have done that..”

...... and what were those INDICATIONS ?

A post by ........ Airbornewolf at russiadefence.net .........as posted, where he made 6 observations. I won’t post them again.

So I made NO COMMENT ........ I passed on a comment that I thought INDICATED that a catastrophic engine failure COULD bring an aircraft down ........ not that it did bring it down!

[cyprusgrump]

Cyprusgrump:

You did tho...

You claimed it was mechanical failure and posted links to the failure of the Australian aircraft to prove it...

Do you need me to post your comment once again to remind you...?

No I will do it for you ...................I posted:

Paphitis ..... any comment?

Not quite as isolated an incident after all ..... although in this instance an Airbus 380, not a Boeing, but the indications are very similar ........ comment is from another forum!

I made it very clear the comment was from another forum ..... not my comment. I just found the idea that a catastrophic engine failure and the resulting damage, could not cause the aircraft to crash, as suggested by Kikapu ....... “ No amount of engine fire would have done that..”

...... and what were those INDICATIONS ?

A post by ........ Airbornewolf at russiadefence.net .........as posted, where he made 6 observations. I won’t post them again.

So I made NO COMMENT ........ I passed on a comment that I thought INDICATED that a catastrophic engine failure COULD bring an aircraft down ........ not that it did bring it down!

Denial: Not just a river in Egypt...

You're mental RH...

Do yourself a favour, re-read this thread from post #1 and then see if your comments match reality... Because they don't.

[Robin Hood]

RW:

..it is worth mentioning; while it sounds far fetched. In such an environment where there is a desire to express sentiments strongly, it is easy to imagine persons or individuals acting independently. Indeed, who says that the regime is in control of every rocket launcher in Iran? And thus,it has to be asked if it was coincidence that this plane, full of Canadians, was shot down; let's not forget that Canada-Iran relations are not friendly for their own reasons.

...and now that there will be a "Special Trial"; what will we see, "Special Justice"?

I think until there is an investigation we will only know what happened not why. So until all the evidence is looked at that judgement cannot be made. I hope the trial is ‘special’ and that ALL the evidence is considered, not locked away in the ‘.... interests of National Security’ so nobody gets the whole picture, as has happened to this sort of ‘investigation’ in the past from at least 9/11 onward.

Mr. Trudeau is not one to speculate, nor escalate confrontations, he will wait for the course of the investigations to conclude. If there is a grain of truth to such possibility though, it will be rooted out. And while Canada is not likely to extract revenge militarily if true, exposure of the truth is more damaging to the regime than more violence.

I am not that conversant with Canadian politics, so I have no idea what Trudeau will do but, Iran has admitted what happened was their fault ..... which has to be a point in their favour and an indication they will have an open investigation into the tragedy.

...hard to believe, that it is an anti-regimist involved in such a plot, though.

I agree but common sense alone calls that video into question! The fact that it very soon found its way to Bellingcat via a contact outside Iran, via the NYT(?), is suspicious. Who do you know who stands in the middle of a derelict industrial area, at 06.15, having a smoke whilst videoing a patch of sky for quite a few seconds with nothing in it other than the lights of an aircraft? You would need to be a pretty dumb to consider that normal! But those that believe rubbish without question do exist .... unfortunately.

[Robin Hood]

Cyprusgrump:

Denial: Not just a river in Egypt...

You're mental RH...

Do yourself a favour, re-read this thread from post #1 and then see if your comments match reality... Because they don't.

I think ............ you don't/can't, that leaves you with a handicap as you are very gullible!

I see you have still not worked out the WTC1 riddle! Surely someone who thinks he is as smart as you think you are, can work out a relatively simple piece of logical deduction? Or is the reality to hard for you to accept?

[cyprusgrump]

Cyprusgrump:

Denial: Not just a river in Egypt...

You're mental RH...

Do yourself a favour, re-read this thread from post #1 and then see if your comments match reality... Because they don't.

I think ............ you don't/can't, that leaves you with a handicap as you are very gullible!

I see you have still not worked out the WTC1 riddle! Surely someone who thinks he is as smart as you think you are, can work out a relatively simple piece of logical deduction? Or is the reality to hard for you to accept?

Nobody is interested in your loony conspiracy theories about the twin towers...

The point being made* was that everybody has a camera in their pocket these days. The Interwebz are full of clips of people capturing amazing one-off events on their phones...

...and don't you think that if it was a set-up they would have put the guy closer to the event and given him a decent camera...? Or better still, have two or three blokes with cameras that could ensure the event was captured and in decent quality...?



* While you claim to be the 'thinker' here, your levels of comprehension and understanding of basic English are incredibly poor... Or perhaps you are just a loony like I said earlier...

[Londonrake]

The latter.

A common characteristic of which is ............ they think they’re normal. It’s everybody else that’s got a problem. Look up “paranoia”.

Anyway, off to Perth via Singapore. Only 20 hours flying. But on an A380. Kool, as the family might say.

[cyprusgrump]

The latter.

A common characteristic of which is ............ they think they’re normal. It’s everybody else that’s got a problem. Look up “paranoia”.

Anyway, off to Perth via Singapore. Only 20 hours flying. But on an A380. Kool, as the family might say.

380 is amazing!

Although we had about 2 hours of turbulence leaving Auckland - amazing to think it could shake a thing that size about!

[Robin Hood]

Cyprusgrump:

Nobody is interested in your loony conspiracy theories about the twin towers...

It seems you are wrong ..... once again!

The University of Alaska – Fairbanks, has just recently concluded a four year study of the collapse of WTC7, I assume you are aware of that event? Their peer reviewed final release should be out soon and confirms the building was not demolished by fire alone. NIST lied .......and they have admitted it!

http://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7

The collapse of WTC1 has also been proved not to have been caused by fire and structural damage.

As WTC1 collapse has been proven, then the greater probability is that WTC2 met the same demise. I have given you the FACTUAL and RAW evidence but obviously you do not have the ability to analyse what is in the videos and come to the undeniable conclusion that ........ what you were told in the Official Conspiracy Theory put out by the US Administration and believed ‘hook-line-and-sinker’, was not the truth in fact very far from it.

The only ‘conspiracy theory’ in this instance is the official NIST/FEMA fairy tale!

The point being made* was that everybody has a camera in their pocket these days. The Interwebz are full of clips of people capturing amazing one-off events on their phones...
...and don't you think that if it was a set-up they would have put the guy closer to the event and given him a decent camera...? Or better still, have two or three blokes with cameras that could ensure the event was captured and in decent quality...?
* While you claim to be the 'thinker' here, your levels of comprehension and understanding of basic English are incredibly poor... Or perhaps you are just a loony like I said earlier...

My English in all aspects is clearly considerably better than you exhibit as I have a lot more practice using it then you do!

Talking of ability to comprehend English ...... what is it you don’t understand about ........ it is not my comment but my posting of a comment by A.N.Other, made on another forum?

But I do agree with the concept that the circumstances under which it was produced and subsequently released to the MSM and Bellingcat, seems very suspicious! Your suggestion, if it had been adopted, would of course have screamed FALSE FLAG ....... as pre-knowledge would have been confirmed.