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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:47 am

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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:46 am



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Iran took & concluded proportionate measures in self-defense under Article 51 of UN Charter targeting base from which cowardly armed attack against our citizens & senior officials were launched.

We do not seek escalation or war, but will defend ourselves against any aggression.


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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:20 am

yialousa1971 wrote:

Javad Zarif @JZarif
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Iran took & concluded proportionate measures in self-defense under Article 51 of UN Charter targeting base from which cowardly armed attack against our citizens & senior officials were launched.

We do not seek escalation or war, but will defend ourselves against any aggression.


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Fair enough they were within their rights to take proportionate action. I think more a token than a revenge attack? Reports say little damage and no casualties so far reported according to Sky news. I would suspect that Iran gave the Iraqi's a warning before they launched the attack, so no doubt the US were aware something was happening. I would expect to see more incidents in the coming weeks on more specific US targets.

As all US bases were on high alert I am surprised any of the missiles actually got through.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:55 am

FYI: A few other opinions and related aspects of the situation with Iran/Iraq.

Iraq PM confirms receiving ‘signed’ US pullout letter - By Press TV

January 07, 2020 "Information Clearing House" - Amid confusion over a reported US letter to Iraq announcing the steps its military would take to move out of Iraq, Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi confirms that Baghdad has actually received "signed and translated" copies from the US Army concerning the withdrawal.

In a televised cabinet meeting on Tuesday, Abdul Mahdi clearly refuted all US claims that the letter had been sent by mistake or it had been inauthentic.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52817.htm


As usual MoA seems well informed about what is going on?

Axis Of Resistance Announces How How It Will Avenge Qassem Soleimani - By Moon Of Alabama

January 07, 2020 "Information Clearing House" - The media continue to tell fairytales about Qassem Soleimani and about Trump's decision to assassinate him and PMU leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. Meanwhile the Resistance Axis announced how it will avenge their deaths.

In their descriptions of Qassem Soleimani U.S. media fail to mention that Soleimani and the U.S. fought on the same side. In 2001 Iran supported the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. It used its good relations with the Hazara Militia and the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, which both the CIA and Iran had supplied for years, to support the U.S. operation. The Wikipedia entry for the 2001 uprising in Herat lists U.S. General Tommy Franks and General Qassem Soleimani as allied commanders.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52815.htm


Let us hope the UK keeps out of it and does not launch any attacks from Cyprus in support of the US actions! The US started it ..... let them and Iran/Iraq sort it out.
Europe Cravenly Appeases Trump - By Finian Cunningham

January 07, 2020 "Information Clearing House" - If the United States and Iran do go to war, it will be in no small part due to the cowardly appeasement of European powers in the face of American criminality.

Many commentators, including legal experts, have condemned the assassination of the Iranian military commander General Qasem Soleimani at Baghdad airport last week. It was brutal, cold-blooded murder carried out on the orders of US President Donald Trump.
To kill a senior official of a foreign state in such a dastardly way is an act of war and a war crime.

More especially because it has since emerged that Soleimani was on a diplomatic peace mission when he arrived at the airport, according to Iraqi prime minister Adel Abdul Mahdi. The Iraqi leader says Soleimani was engaged in efforts to tamp down regional tensions between Saudi Arabia and Iran. What’s more, the Americans knew of this peace overture and apparently encouraged it. Then they turned around and murdered Soleimani.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52819.htm


Now the US prevents the UN hearing the Iranian response ..... by refusing Iran's top diplomat a visa to present Irans side of the story.

Trump Administration Blocks Iran’s Top Diplomat From Addressing the U.N. Security Council - By Robbie Gramer

Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif had sought to give a speech condemning the U.S. assassination of Qassem Suleimani.

January 07, 2020 "Information Clearing House" - The Trump administration is barring Iran’s top diplomat from entering the United States this week to address the United Nations Security Council about the U.S. assassination of Iran’s top military official in Baghdad, violating the terms of a 1947 headquarters agreement requiring Washington to permit foreign officials into the country to conduct U.N. business, according to three diplomatic sources.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif requested a visa a “few weeks ago” to enter the United States to attend a Jan. 9 Security Council meeting on the importance of upholding the U.N. Charter, according to a diplomatic source familiar with the matter. The Thursday meeting was to provide Tehran’s top diplomat with his first opportunity to directly address the world community since U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the Jan. 3 drone strike that killed Maj. Gen. Qassem Suleimani, a top Iraqi militia leader, among others.

The Iranian government was awaiting word on the visa Monday when a Trump administration official phoned U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres to inform him that the United States would not allow Zarif into the country, according to the Washington-based diplomatic source.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/52814.htm
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:16 am

Good response by the USA.

Why on earth would they grant Iranian Diplomats a VISA to the USA.

We don't allow them in Australia either. We have strict embargoes on Iran.

They harass our ships which is even worse then some random guy who has a misdemeanor as they are also refused a VISA.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:34 am

Paphitis wrote:Good response by the USA.

Why on earth would they grant Iranian Diplomats a VISA to the USA.

We don't allow them in Australia either. We have strict embargoes on Iran.

They harass our ships which is even worse then some random guy who has a misdemeanor as they are also refused a VISA.


I was under the impression that anyone coming to the USA for the purpose of UN affairs are given visas automatically, providing they comply with their travel restriction within the USA, should they have that imposed on them. :?
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:51 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Good response by the USA.

Why on earth would they grant Iranian Diplomats a VISA to the USA.

We don't allow them in Australia either. We have strict embargoes on Iran.

They harass our ships which is even worse then some random guy who has a misdemeanor as they are also refused a VISA.


I was under the impression that anyone coming to the USA for the purpose of UN affairs are given visas automatically, providing they comply with their travel restriction within the USA, should they have that imposed on them. :?


Every country in the world is free to not grant diplomats or leaders from other countries a VISA.

I remember Australia was close to not granting Pootin a VISA to come to Australia.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Good response by the USA.

Why on earth would they grant Iranian Diplomats a VISA to the USA.

We don't allow them in Australia either. We have strict embargoes on Iran.

They harass our ships which is even worse then some random guy who has a misdemeanor as they are also refused a VISA.


I was under the impression that anyone coming to the USA for the purpose of UN affairs are given visas automatically, providing they comply with their travel restriction within the USA, should they have that imposed on them. :?


Every country in the world is free to not grant diplomats or leaders from other countries a VISA.

I remember Australia was close to not granting Pootin a VISA to come to Australia.


I am not talking about any other country and their visa policies. I am talking about the USA only because the UN is based there for any country wanting to come and address the assembly.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Good response by the USA.

Why on earth would they grant Iranian Diplomats a VISA to the USA.

We don't allow them in Australia either. We have strict embargoes on Iran.

They harass our ships which is even worse then some random guy who has a misdemeanor as they are also refused a VISA.


I was under the impression that anyone coming to the USA for the purpose of UN affairs are given visas automatically, providing they comply with their travel restriction within the USA, should they have that imposed on them. :?


Every country in the world is free to not grant diplomats or leaders from other countries a VISA.

I remember Australia was close to not granting Pootin a VISA to come to Australia.


I am not talking about any other country and their visa policies. I am talking about the USA only because the UN is based there for any country wanting to come and address the assembly.


Sure I know what you meant.

But they still have to enter the USA, and the USA is under no obligation to let them into their country if they deem Iran is responsible for terrorist activities against western and US interests.

If they want to talk at the UN, they can do a conference call. But don't expect representatives from USA, Israel, Australia, UK, Canada or NZ to remain in their seats. They will WALK OUT.

We do not have to listen to them or acknowledge them at all, and we have done this before.

Iran has run their dash with us, and the ball is firmly in their court.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:02 pm

Well it looks like Iran just played the ball, so more bitch slaps inbound from Iran.

I guess Iran is a bit slow to learn.

Australia just announced it's sending one of its newest Air Warfare Destroys (with AEGIS Weapons Systems) to the straits to join with another Frigate already there.
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