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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Londonrake » Thu May 03, 2018 7:20 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Again you don't answer previous questions you just add more.

And you of course always do. :lol: Please show evidence to support your claim that Israel has "continually threatened Iran with nuclear weapons". Listen - you can hear a pin drop. Ahh, but it's being filtered out by "them"! Although, of course, Israeli threats to vaporise Tehran would be front page news across the globe. It's a lot of bull, which only the most ardent devotee would even pretend to swallow.

And all the threats made by Iran about it's "Holy" responsibility to destroy the State of Israel? TLDR. Because of course, it's the unavoidable and unanswerable reality. So - you hope to get away with ignoring it. :D Hopefully, others are a little less fanatically prejudiced.

You sound just like LR, he demands public apologies but never makes any himself!

Oh, come on. If I'm incontrovertibly wrong I have no problem in saying so and apologising. Conversely, I can't think of a single occasion in 8 years when you've done so. Even when you have been so far off the mark it's been a case of ROFLMAO. Your regular compulsion to, in fits of anger, take things off-forum has caused me personal grief. Your blatant threat to get your various nationality mates to sort me out speaks for itself. Forget about pussy-footin' around with libel - it was criminal in nature. I eagerly await (without holding my breath of course :wink: ) your - first ever - apology for some of that.

So, why should Iran apologise, don't you think that the Israeli's have many things to apologise to Iran for, like funding MEK terrorism in Iran or recently killing Iranian troops in another sovereign state who were no real threat to them? When was the last Iranian attack on Israel or the last Israeli soldier killed by Iran?

How many MEK? 65,000 on the Iranian border? Equipped by Israel with 150,000 rockets, some able to reach Tehran? And, Iran building military bases in Syria within short striking distance of Israel is "no real threat to them". Coupled with the - a matter of public record - Iranian outpourings about destroying Israel? Ohh, I forgot, you didn't read them. :roll: So, let me get this straight. I'm the naive one?

The BIG problem for Israel and the US is that Iran is gaining influence in the region ..... and they don't like it, so they think to create a non- existent threat and destroy them will be the solution! Quiet diplomacy is not something the US or Israel is very accomplished at. :roll:

Try reading the list of high ranking Iranian officials' declarations of intent to destroy Israel. Then come back and talk about "a non-existent threat". But then you did - and of course you can't :roll:

Iran it seems has done what not too long ago would have been unimaginable. It's united the Gulf Arab states and Israel in a loose alliance of common intent.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Thu May 03, 2018 7:48 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Again you don't answer previous questions you just add more.

And you of course always do. :lol: Please show evidence to support your claim that Israel has "continually threatened Iran with nuclear weapons". Listen - you can hear a pin drop. Ahh, but it's being filtered out by "them"! Although, of course, Israeli threats to vaporise Tehran would be front page news across the globe. It's a lot of bull, which only the most ardent devotee would even pretend to swallow.

And all the threats made by Iran about it's "Holy" responsibility to destroy the State of Israel? TLDR. Because of course, it's the unavoidable and unanswerable reality. So - you hope to get away with ignoring it. :D Hopefully, others are a little less fanatically prejudiced.

You sound just like LR, he demands public apologies but never makes any himself!

Oh, come on. If I'm incontrovertibly wrong I have no problem in saying so and apologising. Conversely, I can't think of a single occasion in 8 years when you've done so. Even when you have been so far off the mark it's been a case of ROFLMAO. Your regular compulsion to, in fits of anger, take things off-forum has caused me personal grief. Your blatant threat to get your various nationality mates to sort me out speaks for itself. Forget about pussy-footin' around with libel - it was criminal in nature. I eagerly await (without holding my breath of course :wink: ) your - first ever - apology for some of that.

So, why should Iran apologise, don't you think that the Israeli's have many things to apologise to Iran for, like funding MEK terrorism in Iran or recently killing Iranian troops in another sovereign state who were no real threat to them? When was the last Iranian attack on Israel or the last Israeli soldier killed by Iran?

How many MEK? 65,000 on the Iranian border? Equipped by Israel with 150,000 rockets, some able to reach Tehran? And, Iran building military bases in Syria within short striking distance of Israel is "no real threat to them". Let me get this straight. I'm the naive one?

The BIG problem for Israel and the US is that Iran is gaining influence in the region ..... and they don't like it, so they think to create a non- existent threat and destroy them will be the solution! Quiet diplomacy is not something the US or Israel is very accomplished at. :roll:

Try reading the list of high ranking Iranian officials' declarations of intent to destroy Israel. Then come back and talk about "a non-existent threat". But then you did - and of course you can't :roll:

Iran it seems has done what not too long ago would have been unimaginable. It's united the Gulf Arab states and Israel in a loose alliance of common intent.


Your paranoia is becoming all consuming ...... I seriously think you need medical help! :roll: Your paranoid posts are not worth reading and would take far too long to reply to. But you appear to be in a minority of two with your extremist views. I can live with that. :roll:

Remember my squeaking hinge comment ? You must be well oiled by now? Squeak ..... squeak. :lol: :lol:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Londonrake » Thu May 03, 2018 8:05 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Your paranoia is becoming all consuming ...... I seriously think you need medical help! :roll: Your paranoid posts are not worth reading and would take far too long to reply to. But you appear to be in a minority of two with your extremist views. I can live with that. :roll:

Remember my squeaking hinge comment ? You must be well oiled by now? Squeak ..... squeak.


Ahh! Hit some nerves. :wink:

Easier to post personal abuse. Ohh, I'm forgetting, you never do! Only others. You are of course - the perennial "victim".

It's always a good feeling. When valid points are made and serious matters raised and answers are avoided. Because, there are no answers of course. :wink: Moreover, it isn't just the two of us. Others read and can form their own opinions. Based upon cases presented and not TLDR - accompanied with personally abusive diversions in order to avoid valid points made.

You've always been someone who runs away, when confronted with a stark reality. That's the never apologising or admitting being wrong thing. Get it?

Also, I think when it comes to paranoia, I couldn't even begin to hold a candle up to your good self. Mr Conspiracy Theory. Your wife pulls a cable out of your PC whilst hoovering and it's "them" interfering with your computer. :lol: I work for some super-clandestine Israeli outfit (without pay it seems :( ). Any more "secret" nukes been let off lately? Death rays? The US did 9/11? Syria has no chemical weapons? The Skripals are simply suffering from food poisoning?

BTW, are you still keeping a supply of petrol and food stored for the coming Armageddon?

It's a long, long list. :lol: :wink:

Yes, I'm clearly the paranoid one. :roll:

All a matter of record. :wink:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 04, 2018 1:34 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No opinion. You keep saying that Israel is the aggressor in the entire region but that is not the case at all.

OK, he left out Turkey... they're both aggressors.


Turkey is an Aggressor, but israel isn't.

When was the last time you seen Israel cause any problems?

All actions from Israel have always been provoked since day 1. look at your history books. Israeli did not start the 1967 war. It was attacked and invaded by Syria, Jordan and Egypt who thought they had an opportunity to crush Israel.

They got crushed instead, with Israel taking the Golan Heights, the West Bank, Gaza, and they even took a huge chunk from Egypt (the Entire Sinai peninsula)

You can't blame them for this no matter how you dice it. They were attacked and they fought back and turned the tables.

Now, they just won't take any shit from anyone.

Even to this day, Iran threatens Israel with annihilation. Therefore, Israel attacks Hezbollah and Iranian interests in Syria. You can't blame them for this either.

But having said that, the Israelis have acted like a reasonable international citizen when it comes to Egypt. They did hand back the Sinai Peninsular to Egypt.

Now, I do not agree with Israel's siege on Gaza or building settlements in the West Bank and also believe in a 2 State Solution and for Israel to respect the Human Rights of the Palestinians. I also believe that all illegal Israeli Settlements should be destroyed, or that these houses should be just given to the Palestinians.

But I also believe that The Golan Heights now belong to Israel proper. Assad has no leg to stand on. Especially now in his Hezbollah run State.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Fri May 04, 2018 5:35 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No opinion. You keep saying that Israel is the aggressor in the entire region but that is not the case at all.

OK, he left out Turkey... they're both aggressors.


Turkey is an Aggressor, but israel isn't.

When was the last time you seen Israel cause any problems?

All actions from Israel have always been provoked since day 1. look at your history books. Israeli did not start the 1967 war. It was attacked and invaded by Syria, Jordan and Egypt who thought they had an opportunity to crush Israel.

They got crushed instead, with Israel taking the Golan Heights, the West Bank, Gaza, and they even took a huge chunk from Egypt (the Entire Sinai peninsula)

You can't blame them for this no matter how you dice it. They were attacked and they fought back and turned the tables.

Now, they just won't take any shit from anyone.

Even to this day, Iran threatens Israel with annihilation. Therefore, Israel attacks Hezbollah and Iranian interests in Syria. You can't blame them for this either.

But having said that, the Israelis have acted like a reasonable international citizen when it comes to Egypt. They did hand back the Sinai Peninsular to Egypt.

Now, I do not agree with Israel's siege on Gaza or building settlements in the West Bank and also believe in a 2 State Solution and for Israel to respect the Human Rights of the Palestinians. I also believe that all illegal Israeli Settlements should be destroyed, or that these houses should be just given to the Palestinians.

But I also believe that The Golan Heights now belong to Israel proper. Assad has no leg to stand on. Especially now in his Hezbollah run State.


Keep waving the flag ...... Hooray..... USA, USA, USA!

I suggest YOU read the history books .... the actual events are very different to the way you describe them. That's the Western propaganda version.

I repeat ..... Israel as recognised Internationally has never been attacked by another nation since its illegal declaration as the Jewish State of Israel in 1948
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This specialist source will give you far more accurate information, as you don’t give reveal own source:

http://ifamericaknew.org/
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Robin Hood » Fri May 04, 2018 6:07 am

Just let me check .... does this have anything to do with the thread? :?: Nope .... I thought not, but I will humour your lunatic ravings anyway. :roll:

Londonrake:

Ahh! Hit some nerves.


Er .... no actually! Same old, same old,........ squeak!

Easier to post personal abuse. Ohh, I'm forgetting, you never do! Only others. You are of course - the perennial "victim".


No personal abuse is your dept. not mine, I am merely an recipient of yours. You make me sound like Netanyahu .... he’s always the victim!

It's always a good feeling. When valid points are made and serious matters raised and answers are avoided. Because, there are no answers of course. Moreover, it isn't just the two of us. Others read and can form their own opinions. Based upon cases presented and not TLDR - accompanied with personally abusive diversions in order to avoid valid points made.


Ah I see, you are into scoring points? Now don’t forget to write it all down and get it all into that comprehensive filing system you keep on people.

You've always been someone who runs away, when confronted with a stark reality. That's the never apologising or admitting being wrong thing. Get it?


No....... I just can’t be assed exchanging views with a rabid right wing, paranoid, Russiaphobic, Iran hating extremist.
Also, I think when it comes to paranoia, I couldn't even begin to hold a candle up to your good self. Mr Conspiracy Theory. Your wife pulls a cable out of your PC whilst hoovering and it's "them" interfering with your computer. I work for some super-clandestine Israeli outfit (without pay it seems ). Any more "secret" nukes been let off lately? Death rays? The US did 9/11? Syria has no chemical weapons? The Skripals are simply suffering from food poisoning?


Oh dear, oh dear ..... you are having a bad day! Run out of Gin maybe?

BTW, are you still keeping a supply of petrol and food stored for the coming Armageddon?


No ...... I have a diesel and yes, we keep a sensible supply of essentials just in case, as well as 40L of diesel. You never know when you might need it. To me that’s just common sense!

It's a long, long list.


I’m not like you I don’t keep ‘lists’!

What will you do if the fuel stations go on strike or the deliveries to the Island are disrupted. No fuel = rapidly dwindling food supplies but I can cope for a while in an emergency, you would have to panic buy .... like a lot of others and it can get nasty in such situations. I see it as being no different from carrying a spare wheel for the car or a couple of spare toilet rolls in the bathroom ........ it comes from being a pragmatic boy scout!

Yes, I'm clearly the paranoid one.


That’s a good sign! Recognising your problem is always a good start .... ask Kwacka.

All a matter of record.

You should know all about keeping records! :roll:
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 04, 2018 11:13 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:No opinion. You keep saying that Israel is the aggressor in the entire region but that is not the case at all.

OK, he left out Turkey... they're both aggressors.


Turkey is an Aggressor, but israel isn't.

When was the last time you seen Israel cause any problems?

All actions from Israel have always been provoked since day 1. look at your history books. Israeli did not start the 1967 war. It was attacked and invaded by Syria, Jordan and Egypt who thought they had an opportunity to crush Israel.

They got crushed instead, with Israel taking the Golan Heights, the West Bank, Gaza, and they even took a huge chunk from Egypt (the Entire Sinai peninsula)

You can't blame them for this no matter how you dice it. They were attacked and they fought back and turned the tables.

Now, they just won't take any shit from anyone.

Even to this day, Iran threatens Israel with annihilation. Therefore, Israel attacks Hezbollah and Iranian interests in Syria. You can't blame them for this either.

But having said that, the Israelis have acted like a reasonable international citizen when it comes to Egypt. They did hand back the Sinai Peninsular to Egypt.

Now, I do not agree with Israel's siege on Gaza or building settlements in the West Bank and also believe in a 2 State Solution and for Israel to respect the Human Rights of the Palestinians. I also believe that all illegal Israeli Settlements should be destroyed, or that these houses should be just given to the Palestinians.

But I also believe that The Golan Heights now belong to Israel proper. Assad has no leg to stand on. Especially now in his Hezbollah run State.


Keep waving the flag ...... Hooray..... USA, USA, USA!

I suggest YOU read the history books .... the actual events are very different to the way you describe them. That's the Western propaganda version.

I repeat ..... Israel as recognised Internationally has never been attacked by another nation since its illegal declaration as the Jewish State of Israel in 1948
.
This specialist source will give you far more accurate information, as you don’t give reveal own source:

http://ifamericaknew.org/


there is nothing at all incorrect with what I have said. It was Israel that was provoked in 1967.

the only other action was as far back as 1956 in order to just keep open the Straights of Tiran to Israeli Shipping. Israel would have been under siege and without access to the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean, which by law was entitled to. When Israel obtained assurances that the straights would remain open to Israeli Shipping and for the deployment of UN Peacekeepers, it had withdrawn, just like it withdrew from the Sinai in 1980 as well.

On both occasions, Israel had even shown goodwill and a willingness to improve its relations with its neighbours.

But that wasn't enough, because again, the Straights were closed and Egypt was mobilizing its military on Israel's Border in preparation for an invasion when they got done over and their entire Air Force was obliterated in 6 days. At the same time, Jordan and Syria were planning an invasion from the East and from the North East near Golan.

Well, Egypt, Jordan and Syria lost. Live by the sword, be prepared to die by the sword.

You keep waving your terrorist Russia Flag...which is the real irony here.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 04, 2018 4:23 pm

Paradise Now!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0445620/?ref_=ttawd_awd_tt
an excellent film about the life of Palestinians in Israel.
Nominated for Oscar, 13 wins 15 nominations
I can upload an avi version if anyone is interested.
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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri May 04, 2018 4:36 pm

Iran’s foreign minister warns no renegotiating nuclear deal as Trump decision looms

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Re: The impending war against Iran thread

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 04, 2018 4:58 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Iran’s foreign minister warns no renegotiating nuclear deal as Trump decision looms



Yeah but the US is the only nation on this planet that has the God given right to do as it pleases.
Even plunge us into another new war with thousands of human victims and total destruction for the sake of having their own industrial military complex going.
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