Kikapu,
i appreciate your answers, but they will ALL fall on deaf ears, specially in the west. The fact that Iran has been threatening to wipe Israel off the map, is enough of a justification for Israel to defend itself in anyway she deems necessary. I'm sure Iran would not dare to nuke Israel, but just the threat alone will not be acceptable to Israel. Such potential threats from Iran towards Israel will promote further instability in the region, because you will then see every terrorist organisation will be empowered to attack Israel because they will have their "big brother" Iran with nuclear weapons to strike at Israel at any time if Israel pushes too hard against these terrorist groups. Look how many in the Arab world got very supportive of Turkey just by Erdogan saying he will use the Turkish Navy to destroy the Gaza blockade. Of course Erdogan backed down and that it was all talk and no action, but many terrorist organisations will not back down easily
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I agree in general with what you say but, as Schnauzer says the
‘...wipe Israel off the map.’ statement by Ahmadinejad was conveniently poor translation from Farsi and has been proved to be wrong. Although, look at almost any comments columns related to the subject and time and time again you will see this being repeated by US readers.
‘Sheeple’ believe almost without question what they are told and they must form around 99% of the worlds population, you only become informed when you question the validity of what you are being told. You can never be sure that what you find on the internet is 100% truth as it is up to the individual to come to a reasoned conclusion from various sources of information. Always avoid accepting verbatim what you read in the MSM because, whilst there may be a basis of truth, the details will inevitably have been ‘adjusted’. You stand far more chance of achieving a more accurate view of events by looking it up on the Internet, than you will from reading the papers or watching the BBC World News or Sky News etc.
Kikapu;
You also refer above to terrorists! What is a terrorist? The Cypriots I know believe EOKA fighters were ‘Freedom Fighters’ not terrorists, and they are right. But the British called them terrorists because it suited their version of armed combat. Freedom fighters take up combat using what means they have, often against a superior equipped and numerically greater enemy, but they do it within their own borders against an occupying army. Hezbolah and Hamas are both identified as terrorist groups by the US but by far the greater numbers of contacts are against the Israeli occupying forces of their land and take place (
normally) on their own lands. In my book these guys are not terrorists but freedom fighters. On the other hand the PLO is a terrorist group as were many Israeli (
Zionist) groups, which went on to form the Israeli Government after 1948. Many of the Israeli terrorist attacks were well recorded as being against civilians. Once a freedom fighter exports his/her brand of combat outside their own national borders, then in my book, they become terrorists.
Plenty of details here:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/terrorism.html Kikapu
‘...... but when you have nutcases in Iran threatening to wipe Israel off the map,’
....... they (
Ahmadinejad) didn’t say that, we now know but, it’s never been retracted in/on the MSM’s.
Have you never seen the Extreme Orthodox Jews in the black hats, long coats and with shaved heads and ringlets? Now in my book they are also nutcases especially when they scream insults at 8yr old girls going to school in a normal school uniform, calling them whores! Or, even when they are shooting at Palestinians just trying to tend the crops in their own fields. But again, you don’t see that on the MSM news broadcasts............. bad PR! And these 'nutcases' DO have nuclear weapons!!!!
I said right at the beginning of the thread that the moral indignation displayed by the US/Israel and mimicked by the EU over Iranian nuclear weapons and their Uranium enrichment program, is all hype with one purpose; to give the US the opportunity, maybe through Israel , to get their grubby hands on the vast Iranian oil/gas fields and the proposed Iran/Pakistan pipeline to India.
GR:
I don’t think the Israelis are stupid enough to start something they cannot finish off on their own and I cannot see the US participating without Russia siding with Iran. It’s too complicated, too messy, too dangerous, too unpredictable, and nobody’s going to do it!
I agree completely! The Iranians are far too smart to be enticed into war by either Israel or the US.
But, the one thing that would concern me is the ‘false flag’ event, which both Israel and the US are adept at. With control over the media by the Zionists that run both these countries, we could be plunged into a ‘retaliatory’ war against Iran before we had time to find out that it was all on a falsehood. The majority will believe what the media tells them! It happened in Vietnam, but it only came out years later (
Gulf of Tonkin incident) when most of the guilty parties were in unassailable positions of power, or dead like thousands of US and other allied servicemen, not to mention a couple of million Vietnamese. Even then, you could only find this out by going and looking for it.
An interesting thread........................
