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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:36 am

kimon07 wrote:...the Cretans staged six revolutions against the Ottoman Empire in just 84 years (from 1821 to 1905) in their effort to unite with Greece, which they achieved in 1913.

That's just your naive interpretation but nobody enslaved in the history of mankind has ever revolted to "unite" with some other party! They simply revolted to LIBERATE themselves from the oppressor.

And it's by no accident that the EOKA oath taken by its members, contained no mention whatsoever of any union with Greece! It simply promised freedom from the British chokehold, regardless of any other additional/secretive intentions that its brainchild may have had.
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby boomerang » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:45 am

kimon07 wrote:
British Flag raised in Nicosia and administration of Cyprus passes from Ottomans to the British.jpg


Do I see Cypriots in fustanelles? :o Disgusting.

they are the greek wannabies...have another look and see if you can spot a real cypriot wearing the vraka re malaka... :lol:
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:58 am

Here's what was missing from the picture above. :wink:

There was some opposition to the agreement in Britain, but not enough to prevent it, and colonial administration was established on the island. Greek Cypriot nationalism made its presence known to the new rulers, when, in a welcoming speech at Larnaca for the first British high commissioner, the bishop of Kition expressed the hope that the British would expedite the unification of Cyprus and Greece as they had previously done with the Ionian Islands. Thus, the British were confronted at the very beginning of their administration with the reality that enosis was vital to many Greek Cypriots.

http://countrystudies.us/cyprus/8.htm
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:22 am

boomerang wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
British Flag raised in Nicosia and administration of Cyprus passes from Ottomans to the British.jpg


Do I see Cypriots in fustanelles? :o Disgusting.

they are the greek wannabies...have another look and see if you can spot a real cypriot wearing the vraka re malaka... :lol:


You mean there were mainland Greeks in Cyprus during the Ottoman occupation? And so many of them? I think your mind is in the same state as the revolting figure of your avatar.
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:35 am

Get Real! wrote:
kimon07 wrote:...the Cretans staged six revolutions against the Ottoman Empire in just 84 years (from 1821 to 1905) in their effort to unite with Greece, which they achieved in 1913.

That's just your naive interpretation but nobody enslaved in the history of mankind has ever revolted to "unite" with some other party! They simply revolted to LIBERATE themselves from the oppressor.


Poor GR. You never learn, do you?
Theriso Revolt (1905)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_revolts
"The Cretan people, meeting in a general assembly at Theriso in Kydonia, today, 11/24 March 1905, proclaims its political union with the Kingdom of Greece, in a single free and constitutional state".[14]
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:37 am

kimon07 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kimon07 wrote:...the Cretans staged six revolutions against the Ottoman Empire in just 84 years (from 1821 to 1905) in their effort to unite with Greece, which they achieved in 1913.

That's just your naive interpretation but nobody enslaved in the history of mankind has ever revolted to "unite" with some other party! They simply revolted to LIBERATE themselves from the oppressor.


Poor GR. You never learn, do you?
Theriso Revolt (1905)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_revolts
"The Cretan people, meeting in a general assembly at Theriso in Kydonia, today, 11/24 March 1905, proclaims its political union with the Kingdom of Greece, in a single free and constitutional state".[14]

Never use the Wiki for political issues. I can delete that line on the Wiki if you'd like me to... :wink:
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:57 am

kimon07 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kimon07 wrote:...the Cretans staged six revolutions against the Ottoman Empire in just 84 years (from 1821 to 1905) in their effort to unite with Greece, which they achieved in 1913.

That's just your naive interpretation but nobody enslaved in the history of mankind has ever revolted to "unite" with some other party! They simply revolted to LIBERATE themselves from the oppressor.


Poor GR. You never learn, do you?
Theriso Revolt (1905)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_revolts
"The Cretan people, meeting in a general assembly at Theriso in Kydonia, today, 11/24 March 1905, proclaims its political union with the Kingdom of Greece, in a single free and constitutional state".[14]



Cretan Revolt (1866–1869)

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The Cretan Revolt of 1866–1869 or Great Cretan Revolution (Greek: Κρητική Επανάσταση του 1866) was a three year uprising in Crete against Ottoman rule, the third and largest in a series of Cretan revolts between the end of the Greek War of Independence in 1830 and the establishment of the independent Cretan State in 1898.
In 1840, Crete was returned to direct Ottoman rule, followed by an unsuccessful 1841 uprising in support of Union with independent Greece.

Another uprising in 1858 secured some privileges, such as the right to bear arms, equality of Christian and Muslim worship, and the establishment of Christian councils of elders with jurisdiction over education and customary and family law. These concessions were resented by the Muslim community, while the Christians pressed for more, while maintaining their ultimate aim of Union with Greece.
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby boomerang » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:23 am

but why you telling us all this kimon?...we don't give a shitshould you be preaching and sorting these pesky cretans in a cretan forum?...like a cypriot sorting the cretans out?... :mrgreen:

go and tell them they are greeks...but if the situation is anything to go by, as the article describes it, you gonna be changing underwear every minute... :mrgreen:

can't you accept the fact some cretans would like to be cretans and not greeks?
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby kimon07 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:27 pm

boomerang wrote:can't you accept the fact some cretans would like to be cretans and not greeks?


What I accept or not accept on this issue is of no concequence or relevance. But the fact is that, unlike you and your lot, even those Cretans who speak about independence, they do not have your inferiority complex. They NEVER DENY being Greek. On the contrary, they are proud of it and they even claim they are more "clean" Greeks than the mainland Greeks. What they are saying is that, as an independent State Entity their island can do much better than under the incompetent Greek State. They even go as far as to say that if Crete becomes independent Hellenism will have two votes in the EU instead of one. :wink:
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Re: Is 2012 The Year Cretans Decide If They Want Out (from G

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:34 pm

kimon07 wrote:...they do not have your inferiority complex. They NEVER DENY being Greek. On the contrary, they are proud of it and they even claim they are more "clean" Greeks than the mainland Greeks.

It's your insistence on being "Greek" that's a classic inferiority complex! :lol:

What the hell is wrong with you? :?
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